The D-Day Thread

[Guitar Woman]

This is the D-Day thread. Because it's D-Day >:
http://www.archives.gov/digital_classroom/lessons/d_day_failure_message/images/landing_in_france.gif

[ItalianStereotype]

http://img111.echo.cx/img111/1738/june6sshotlg038ui.jpg

THIRTY SECONDS

[nothing4buddha]

it's also my dogs bday :Ohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/DRUMMING4BUDDHA/roxybday.jpg

[Mr. Vagiclean]

lol

[pjalne]

That made me laugh like a motherfucker. :(

The D4B post, not the WW2 carnage ones.

Granted, I've had a bit to drink.

[Guitar Woman]

http://img111.echo.cx/img111/1738/june6sshotlg038ui.jpg

THIRTY SECONDS
Which game is that?

[Guitar Woman]

And also
http://www.firingsquad.com/games/brothers_in_arms_preview/images/07.jpg

[MetalMilitia]

Which game is that?

omg... Its only the most well known WW2 game/level ever.

The D-Day beach landing in Medal of Honor: Allied assault :rolleyes

Best WW2 i think

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

THIRTY SECONDS! CLEAR THE RAMP!

[MetalMilitia]

I died like a million times on that level before i worked out if you sat behind a metal thingys for long enough the MG42s stopped shooting you. Then i died another million times on the minefield straght after :(

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

I just charged straight through it and somehow came out alive, and then I got shot to death by the Nazis in that bunker area as I was about to leave the minefield.

[Guitar Woman]

Which game is that?

omg... Its only the most well known WW2 game/level ever.

The D-Day beach landing in Medal of Honor: Allied assault :rolleyes

Best WW2 i think
Then where's the little compass, retard?

[MetalMilitia]

The same place the rest of the HUD is; CROPPED FROM THE IMAGE :rolleyes

Either that for it does not appear until you jump off the boat. I dont remember.

[Guitar Woman]

WRONG. For one thing, the uniforms in that screenshot are greenish, not the tan seen in Allied Assault. Second of all, I played that level yesterday, and the little compass is always there. Third of all, Brothers in Arms is better than anything EA games could ever muster up, and is matched only by CoDFH. (:love that game)
And fourth of all:
http://www.viol.net/mohaa/6a_near_the_bunkers_.jpg

[MetalMilitia]

WRONG. Rolling Eyes

I dont believe you are honestly trying to dispute that that game is MOHH:AA just because the stupid little compass is missing; which could be for any number of reasons.

And its easy to do the mines part when you search for a pic of how to do it :rolleyes
Sheesh, why dont you just stick on god mode while you are at it

[ItalianStereotype]

no, it really is from Allied Assault. that's one of the screenshots from when they were still developing the game ;<

[Guitar Woman]

It looked better back then :o

MM: It was pretty obvious that you had to go in the mine craters. I mean, come on, there couldn't have been any mines there. :/

[MetalMilitia]

THANK YOU.

Guitar woman is starting to tick me off, truth be told >: >:


EDIT: AND YOU ARE STEALING MY PLACES WHERE MY POST SHOULD BE >: >: >:

[Guitar Woman]

If it took you two minutes to post that then you are the slowest fag I've ever seen :rolleyes

[MetalMilitia]

There is only 1 minuite between 30 and 31 :rolleyes :rolleyes

Not to mention the fact you could have posted at 30:59 and i could have posted at 31:00

now quit bieng such a gaytard...hole

[Guitar Woman]

She posted at 29. When you have learned to tell time meet me in mockwars at 1735 hours.

[MetalMilitia]

BECAUSE I WAS REFRESHING THIS PAGE EVERY SECOND AND STARTED REPLYING AS SOON AS I SAW IT, obviously.

[Guitar Woman]

What?

[MetalMilitia]

You are so wrong about everything ever. why dont you shut up.

[Guitar Woman]

AT LEAST I DON'T FEED TOXIC WASTE TO MY CAT TO MAKE IT MUTATE :ROLLEYESTOTHEMAX

[MetalMilitia]

this has gone far enough. you just made me your e-enemy for the SECOND time. >:

[Guitar Woman]

Oh noes! I'm MetalMilitia's mortal enemy on the intarweb!
WHAT AM I EVER TO DO????? :(

[MetalMilitia]

yea, you just wait!

i might just go matt hearty on your ass and follow you round the forum making snide remarks untill you go insane with hatred and leave forever

then we will see who is laughing

[Guitar Woman]

I'll be, because there's no way in hell you can pull that off without looking severely retarded.

[Gurlugon]

how about those landing crafts hoo boy *how* about them

[MetalMilitia]

LETS TAKE THIS TO MOCKWARS BITCH

(haha, not really. I already said i was going to bed instead of having a mockwar with you)

[Guitar Woman]

I bet you're scared of my pure, raw power! :o

[MetalMilitia]

NO SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO GET UP IN THE MORNING AND DO A STUPID FUCKING PRESENTATION ON THE DATA PROTECTIONS ACT WHICH THEY HAVE NOT PREPARED FOR AT ALL. :rolleyes

[Guitar Woman]

Whatever. Good luck with that, you cowardly faggot.

[MetalMilitia]

I dont need luck. I have lack of sleep and a very loose grasp on the principles surrounding the DPA >:

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

Let's talk about D-Day some more, I'd rather talk about that.

[Rongi]

metalmilitia and guitar woman, my grandpa did not get a fucking bullet in his heart so you retards could piss all over this day with your stupid internet fight

USA USA USA

[rockets redglare]

What exactly does the D stand for? I've heard numerous things, all from unreliable sources.

[Bell E. Laffs]

It stands for Tenacious D.

[Guitar Woman]

metalmilitia and guitar woman, my grandpa did not get a fucking bullet in his heart so you retards could piss all over this day with your stupid internet fight

USA USA USA
I'm not happy about this either. My grandfather and his company were rounded up and shot, one by one, by those British cock-suckers at Sword Beach.

What exactly does the D stand for? I've heard numerous things, all from unreliable sources.
I believe it stands for "Deliverance."

Edit: This is why we need a Moderated Discussion forum. So serious threads like this won't be gayed up by idiots like Bell E. Laughs and MetalMilitia who always have to try desperately to be funny and always have to try and prove that they just know everything.

[adept_ninja]

so your grandfather was part of the German army?

[Guitar Woman]

You do know that I'm German, right?

[adept_ninja]

:/ not really I must have missed the memo which explained to all fellow I-mockers that you were german

[kellychaos]

There is not much agreement on the issue. But the most ordinary and likely of explanations is the one offered by the U.S. Army in their published manuals. The Army began using the codes "H-hour" and "D-day" during World War I to indicate the time or date of an operation's start. Military planners would write of events planned to occur on "H-hour" or "D-day" -- long before the actual dates and times of the operations would be known, or in order to keep plans secret. And so the "D" may simply refer to the "day" of invasion

This is true. I have heard D-day applied to other training and real-world operations plannning in which I was involved. I worked in the army as a computer programmer and many of my duties were clerical as well. At one time, I worked in a G-3 Operations and Planning office and, so, typed, retyped, and edited operations orders and found that military planning is notorious for it's being subject to change and contingent on a variety of factors/circumstances. Even basic operations covered in SOPs (standing operating procedure) indicates that, even in mundane tasks, things are subject to change. Perhaps it is for security reasons so that the date/time of certain choreographed operations doesn't leak out in early editions of the order. Timing is everything in some logistics and all the enemy has to do is screw up the timing of one essential part of an operation and most of the rest of the operation is fucked. Perhaps due to the complexity of planning in these particular combined operations (properly called "Operation Overlord"), it became known as the "ultimate D-Day". Shrug. Just an educated guess based on experience.

[ziggytrix]

Edit: This is why we need a Moderated Discussion forum. So serious threads like this won't be gayed up by idiots like Bell E. Laughs and MetalMilitia who always have to try desperately to be funny and always have to try and prove that they just know everything.

Serious threads deserve everything they get and worse. >:

[ziggytrix]

Furthermore, what better way to honor D-day than an internet fight between a British asshole and a German cunt? :)

[MetalMilitia]

right on!

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

Come on MetalMilitia, kill her!

[jin]

Please don't do something like this again, ladies. ;o

[Dole]

I'm not happy about this either. My grandfather and his company were rounded up and shot, one by one, by those British cock-suckers at Sword Beach.

Obviously that sounds like a horrible, undignified way to die but they were fighting for the German Army (presumably) and it was a war situation, and a particularly desperate one, even for WW2.

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

My grandfather's brothers were killed by those German cock suckers in France.

[Guitar Woman]

I'm not happy about this either. My grandfather and his company were rounded up and shot, one by one, by those British cock-suckers at Sword Beach.

Obviously that sounds like a horrible, undignified way to die but they were fighting for the German Army (presumably) and it was a war situation, and a particularly desperate one, even for WW2.
Well, he didn't have much of a choice. It was join the army or die. :/

Also, they surrendered and had given up all of their weapons. There was no reason to shoot them.

[ziggytrix]

How could you possibly know that? If they were all shot, who told the story?

[kellychaos]

WWII Trivia: German rations were soilient green.

[Guitar Woman]

How could you possibly know that? If they were all shot, who told the story?
An officer finally stopped them after about 3/4 of the company were dead. One of the survivors happened to be my dad's godfather.

[El Blanco]

I'm not happy about this either. My grandfather and his company were rounded up and shot, one by one, by those British cock-suckers at Sword Beach.

Obviously that sounds like a horrible, undignified way to die but they were fighting for the German Army (presumably) and it was a war situation, and a particularly desperate one, even for WW2.
Well, he didn't have much of a choice. It was join the army or die. :/

What about the Allied soldiers that they were shooting at?

Also, they surrendered and had given up all of their weapons. There was no reason to shoot them.

Depends on who actually caught them. If it was an airborne unit, then there may have been justification (unable to keep prisoners).

If it was at a batalion HQ, then we may be discussing a war crime.

[Guitar Woman]

They were some of the British infantry soldiers that had just taken Sword Beach and were waiting for reinforcements to arrive.

I think that has war crime written all over it.

[tenno]

i'm german too, but we've been in the US for like 100 years...no history for me

[El Blanco]

They were some of the British infantry soldiers that had just taken Sword Beach and were waiting for reinforcements to arrive.

I think that has war crime written all over it.

Were they capable of holding prisoners? Were they waiting for reinforcements because of the prisoners and had to be pushing inland before the German counter attack?

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

Actually, it's not a war crime, considering there was a basic threat to the lives of the soldiers. They were invading enemy territory, and didn't know if the Germans would be able to call for reinforcements. The Germans could have called on support from a nearby Panzer division.

[Dole]

They were some of the British infantry soldiers that had just taken Sword Beach and were waiting for reinforcements to arrive.

I think that has war crime written all over it.

Considering what those men must have gone through to take that beach, its no surprise they would have killed anyone they could get their hands on. Thats not a justification, but it is the reason.

[Guitar Woman]

Actually, it's not a war crime, considering there was a basic threat to the lives of the soldiers. They were invading enemy territory, and didn't know if the Germans would be able to call for reinforcements. The Germans could have called on support from a nearby Panzer division.
Ok, let me see if I get this:
>The Germans have been disarmed and are being held prisoner.
>Their radios have been destroyed or confiscated.
>The British have rifles, SMGs, BARs, and tanks.
>The unarmed Germans are considered a threat to the heavily armed British soldiers, and are killed.
>A British officer has to give the order to stop multiple times before the soldiers cease fire.

Oh yeah, now I completely understand your reasoning, Jim. How could I ever have believed that those British soldiers had committed a war crime?

[kellychaos]

Barely establishing a beach head in a german-occupied country is hardly grounds to consider one's self secure regardless of the equipment on-hand.

[Guitar Woman]

If you knew anything about WWII, you'd know that Rommel had a minimum amount of reinforcements that he could afford to send to the beachheads, you fucking retard. :/

[Chojin]

To be fair, since Kelly is in the armed forces, I think he has a pretty good idea of what happens in the US Military. I don't think getting lined up and shot in a war situation is really something to get that upset about - These were the same people who had just been shooting and killing your friends. What do you think goes on in war, anyway? We killed tens of thousands of people in Japan that had little to nothing to do with the war effort, and they seem to be coping with the concept (albeit through horrid cartoon porn).

[kellychaos]

If you knew anything about WWII, you'd know that Rommel had a minimum amount of reinforcements that he could afford to send to the beachheads, you fucking retard. :/

Aside from intelligence from sources (air recon and radio traffic) that are unreliable and changeable (re: weapons of mass destruction), how were they to know exactly what forces were at hand? Keep in mind, also, that this was Germany's famed, inpenterable "Atlantic Wall", their last line of defense. An obstacle so respected by the U.S./Britain that minute details like tides, weather, ect almost cancelled the whole operation. We didn't even think that we'd get as far as we did. The casualties ranged from 30-50% depending on your location and type of unit and this was low based on OUR own predictions. And then you're going to tell me these guys are going to carry along prisoners when time is so critical? Christ!! Grant it, the methodology was inhumane but the practicality cannot be denied.

[Guitar Woman]

They didn't just parade into France after taking the beach head, dumbass. They were just sitting there, waiting for the big ships with all the troops on board to come in and completely secure the area. They could have held a lot more than 15 prisoners that had no will left to fight without incident.

[ItalianStereotype]

the Geneva Convention wasn't signed until 1951, so "war crimes" were pretty commonplace during the two world wars.

that aside, after taking the beaches at Normandy, I'm surprised that the officers themselves weren't offing any German that they could find. the beaches were slaughterhouses and I'd imagine that every soldier who took part saw more carnage than he could humanly cope with. this isn't to say that it isn't tragic that your grandfather and his unit were rounded up and shot one by one, but keep in mind that your grandfather was on the side that was destroying the Allied forces as they hit the beach.

[El Blanco]

They didn't just parade into France after taking the beach head, dumbass. They were just sitting there, waiting for the big ships with all the troops on board to come in and completely secure the area. They could have held a lot more than 15 prisoners that had no will left to fight without incident.


They were also waiting for the German counteroffensive, which did come. Even if They were strapped for manpower, the Allies didn't know that. They had every reason to believe that the Germans were coming to Normandy with the Wrath of God.

Now, you're on the beach. Your unit was just turned into ground chuck, you're hoping that reinforcements come soon. The only things you have are what you could carry that didn't get washed away or shot up when you hit the beach. There may even be some Germans still entrenched and fighting on the cliffs.

On top of that, the greatest war machine the world had ever seen is now aware you just invaded and is launching its counter attack at you.


How eagar are you to take care of prisoners?

[jin]

"eager". ;o

Bad spelling completely undermines your credibility. So does name-calling and emotional argument. ;0

[kellychaos]

They didn't just parade into France after taking the beach head, dumbass. They were just sitting there, waiting for the big ships with all the troops on board to come in and completely secure the area. They could have held a lot more than 15 prisoners that had no will left to fight without incident.

As pointed out earlier, they were awaiting a counter-offensive. Stress. In addition, since we placed forces behind the lines in the form of gliders and paratroopers who needed help. Additional stress. This was done to form an effect of a pincer maneuver ... i.e. to trap the german shoreline forces between the beach-head and our troops who were behind the lines. In other words, time was critical as every movement had to be offensive so as to reinforce the troops "behind the lines". That is why your scenario doesn't even make much sense to me. The brits are going to push through the shore defense and then pull the german soldiers back onto the beach to commit this "war crime"? That simply doesn't make sense. I think that somebody had their story confused here.