Mock Wars 2005 Questionnaire

[Chojin]

The 2005 Mock Wars will be left largely open for participation and voting, but we want to avoid problems with people making multiple accounts and 'rocking' the 'vote', so to 'speak.'

We're still deciding on just how to do that, and we'd like your input. Here is my proposal:

Only people who have donated to the boards may participate / vote / view the fights as they happen. Everyone else may donate a minimum of $2 to be included. People who aren't included will be able to view the fights only after they are completed.

I don't want to lock out the public, either, so give me some ideas if you think this would do that.

New additions:
* People that are specifically invited to compete will not have to donate.
* People that drop out of the tournament without a good reason are banned for a month.
* New forum specifically for the fights, normal Mock Wars forum will be open for commentary.

[Guitar Woman]

So what is this exactly? It sounds important :o

There should be some kind of function where only people who have been here over a few months can vote or something.

But yeah, this seems like the only way to stop fags from fucking up the polls. :/

[Chojin]

http://www.i-mockery.net/viewtopic.php?t=19791

[Guitar Woman]

Oh, so it's some kind of humor contest or something. Ok, whatever :(

[Chojin]

It is a TOURNAMENT STEEPED IN I-MOCKERY TRADITION, WENCH

http://p222.ezboard.com/fimockeryfrm20?page=9

[Schimid]

I'd join if I were funny.

If you need it though, I'd help you out with the organization or something, sweetcakes ;O

EDIT - Just reading the first post, I definitely think that it might lock out the public. It's a good idea, and I don't have an alternative or anything, but for real.

I'd like to vote :=

EDIT 2 - Wow, just read the old one, Burbank is a beast. :=

[ziggytrix]

might wanna indicate how much time involvment participation requires.

ya might be able to weed out half-assed participants who drop out after the first round that way.


as for vote control, what's wrong with 1 IP, 1 vote?

[blackwar12]

well its a good idea but locking out the public from seeing it would make it kinda pointless so i prepose whomever has donated to the boards can preticipate while others are just mere spectators watching in on the fun.

[Chojin]

as for vote control, what's wrong with 1 IP, 1 vote?
Because people can use proxies. It's why Mad Max never goes away.

i prepose whomever has donated to the boards can preticipate while others are just mere spectators watching in on the fun.
Yeah, you have a point. It'd be nice if I could set permissions on each thread, so I could just reveal each round as it completes as opposed to revealing the entire tournament at once.

I'd join if I were funny.
You have to join. It's ok, plenty of the people won't be funny.

[Pub Lover]

Oh, so it's some kind of humor contest or something. Ok, whatever :(
You're such a newb you didn't even witness Tropical's abortive attempt at a mockwar tournament last year. :(

The Mock Wars! forum is more than just a place to be stupid, it's the traditional battleground for the mighty titans of mirth to pitch their skills of funny in a fight to humourous death. >:

[Marc Summers]

You make it sound like you watch Gladiator behind closed doors >:

[Pub Lover]

I'm just a pretentious asshole. :/

I refused to go see Gladiator at the cinema with my friends as I thought it looked shite, so eventually they bought me the DVD to prove me wrong, but the one time I ever sat down to watch it I fell asleep at the battle in the woods with the Germans, which they tell me is at the beginning, but seemed to last forever.

[Guitar Woman]

It is a TOURNAMENT STEEPED IN I-MOCKERY TRADITION, WENCH

http://p222.ezboard.com/fimockeryfrm20?page=9
I'M SORRY CHOJIN FORGIVE MY NOOBISHNESS :tear

[ziggytrix]

as for vote control, what's wrong with 1 IP, 1 vote?
Because people can use proxies. It's why Mad Max never goes away.

I suppose so, but any system can be circumvented. The only way to completely lock out the chances of vote stuffing would be to have a limited group of judges.

Your donation method is pretty solid though, and any ballot stuffing would require someone to donate more money... very American. I approve.

Is there no way to allow non-donators to view but note vote/play? Perhaps a new phpbb on the same server, but then could you merge the databases afterward? I dunno, I'm clueless about php.

[Chojin]

Yeah, it's simple to allow people to view it without paying while keeping the others able to post. I just want to give people an incentive to donate if they don't want to participate or vote. But that's probably not the way to do it if we want people to pay attention.

Actually, wait, i could just move the finished threads to another forum that is readable.

So far my idea is to create a new forum specifically for fights and enter all the participants into a usergroup that can reply in that forum but not edit or make new posts. People in the 'donaters' usergroup can only read the forum, and no-one else can. Then we'd use the normal mock wars forum for commentary, and I'd dump each round from the fights forum into mock wars as they finish.

I think I'll paste that in the OP :<

* So i guess the question now is whether the public should be able to view the fights as they happen or only after each round. THOUGHTS.

[Guitar Woman]

Only after each round. It just seems like it would be a lot easier that way.

[Schimid]

Yeah, only after each round would be the best.

[Guitar Woman]

When does this start?

[Chojin]

I'm thinking signups will start monday or sooner, then we'll give a week to collect signups, then qualifiers, then brackets.

Bracket matches with be simple 1 on 1 VS and last for 3 days each. But I still haven't decided on how to do the qualifiers yet, so I'm open to ideas.

[Guitar Woman]

An American Idol style thingie could weed out the retards
I call a spot on the judge's table >:

[CaptainBubba]

I agree with this system as long as certain people who aren't donators can join in by invitation.

BTW, I win.

[Pub Lover]

GW, I've never watched American Idol, how does that system work?

Bubba, people that haven't donated are cheap fags, who are these 'certain people' you wish to invite?

[ziggytrix]

Actually, I wouldn't pay just to vote. I might pay to play (2 bucks is chump change as far as an entry fee goes). But having a panel of judges could lead to perceptions of bias, particularly if the judges are all "vets".

[Chojin]

Donating lets you vote and view the fights as they happen instead of reading them after each round is over. It also lets you participate, too, yeah, but I wanted to illustrate that it isn't just 'for the right to vote'.

Besides, you should donate to the board anyway. We have our donation drive coming up soon.

[ziggytrix]

I haven't done that since the ezboard days, though I have bought some junk from here. :(

[Guitar Woman]

GW, I've never watched American Idol, how does that system work?

Bubba, people that haven't donated are cheap fags, who are these 'certain people' you wish to invite?
I've only watched a few episodes, but I think they get a bunch of people together, then they sing and the best 200 or so go on to the next round. Then they do it again until there's only 20 or so left, and then people vote for their favorites via text messaging and the internets.

I think that it could work for us :o

[Chojin]

Yeah, except a free-for-all in which you decide who's best would be somewhat gay. I recommend for qualifiers we pair everyone up and at the end people vote on their top 5 (or 10) favorite mockers.