OBLIVION: MMORPG REHAB

[Supafly345]

Dark blue and purple world? What the hell?

[ArrowX]

But do they have a mod that brings back Morrowinds Inventory system?

I played Oblivion and I loved it, but the inventory seemed too half assed, IMO they should have stuck with the system from morrowind.

[Supafly345]

What? The inventory system is almost identical, only decorated differently.

[ArrowX]

:O

http://hmx-12.net/~virgil7/morrowind/images/inventorymenu.jpg

[the_dudefather]

from what i can tell they are just layed out a bit different, its annoying having to scroll a lot to get to stuff at the bottom of the list, especialy when you got 50 keys

i wish you could wear a robe over regular armor in oblivion tho

[Chojin]

Dark blue and purple world? What the hell?
is mister colorblind gonna question my perception of hues

IS HE

I don't have the comparison shots right now, but in original oblivion the world is tinted dark blue in the daytime and purple at dawn. With the realistic environments mod it's a slight blue-yellow and at dawn it's more of an orange. Bethesda no doubt did their coloring on purpose, but I prefer more accurate scenery than a mystical FAR AWAY LAND motif.

[ArrowX]

On the 360 version one of the caves near the Place you take Jauffre and Martin, The inside hues everything purple.

[kahljorn]

I've been thinking of getting a level mod does that actually effect the character leveling system or does it just effect the levels of bad guys? Can it be removed without corrupting a save? I don't really like the current system either ;(

Can you show me some screen shots for the texture things?

[EisigerBiskuit]

Please tell me there's a mod to fix the moon gravity.

[Chojin]

kahl and biscuit, i'll look into it later today ;<

[Supafly345]

I hope the 360 supports wireless godammit.

[kahljorn]

You do need to restart, i read through the readme. It sounds like a cool mod, and itll be nice to play through the game and see the difference.

By the way, have any of you guys tried any of the sneak/thief mods that are around?.

[the_dudefather]

frenzy speels are so much fun, slap it on someone it public and watch everyone beat them to death.

might try to create a riot spell, same thing, but with an area of effect

[Chojin]

Kahl, I just got this and it comes highly recommended:

AF Levelling Mod
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=334

Basically changes the way you level to one of 4 sensible ways and you can choose the method. Can use it on any pre-existing character, too.

[kahljorn]

Yea I saw that mod, and some similar ones, but it wasn't quite what I was looking for at the time. Some of them completely void the leveling process and instead op to increase stats every few skill levels which is really cool sounding, though. How do you like it?

Do you think the game is better with Obscuro? I'm having trouble deciding if i should just start over with my character, i hate how it never really gets easier to do a quest. I like gaining levels and feeling like it makes a difference. I also like the fact that they fixed clothing/silverware values because i used to love stealing those in the last game for money.

[Chojin]

I like it because in regular oblivion pretty much everything is the same difficulty, ever

In this certain things are just off-limits, then you overcome them, then you start to wail on people, but their complements increase.

[Shifty]

me and my lukerness, has finally decided to post.



On the 360 version one of the caves near the Place you take Jauffre and Martin, The inside hues everything purple.

yes that made go wtf mate?



oblivion kicks my ass, and sucks monkey ass on the 360, wish i had my new pc working ether way. it is fun. xept i started a new account, im lvl 1, and im already half way through kicking everyones ass in the arena, i mean i have 1500 gold already, and i havent even went to talk to jauffre. The fact that when i level and everyone else levels, is kinda retarded. i think it should be that only bandits, should be like that, and that the dungeons and that should be for certian levels and that, and if you wonder off in to a dungeon with guys that will kick your ass well than son, you are fucked.

good day to you mates!

[the_dudefather]

why does the 360 version suck monkey ass shifty?

[Shifty]

well for one thing the graphics look nice, but also shittie. in High def (witch i dont have) it is nice. i tested out my sisters HDTV a while back with oblivion, and o man was it nice. but, for the people who dont own the expansive shit, we are boned on see the great visuals. also was arrowx has mentioned before, fucked up graphical errors come in randomly at times. Gameplay as i can tell is fun. other than the problems PC players are having. but mostly my complaint is about the graphics. witch means im being picking but i dont care shoot me for all i give.

[Chojin]

What is your first language?

[ziggytrix]

does this game have any sort of multiplayer capability?

[kahljorn]

No. But I've seen people posting about making a multiplayer mod, but I don't know how successful that would be, if it's even possible.

[Tropical]

i got this game and i'm a fantasy noob.
this is probablly my first fantasy rpg since Final fantasy or something.

So questions:
What does 'fortify health' mean?

and where can i get soul gems and how do i charge em?

[Misdemonar]

So questions:
What does 'fortify health' mean?

and where can i get soul gems and how do i charge em?

It means to make you're health longer for a period of time, Soul gems can be bought or stolen, I perfer to steal. And there is a spell to charge them,

[Supafly345]

The main source of soul gems is by finding them in caves or ruins, you can't buy or steal any soul gems other than crappy one's.

And I have no idea what shifty is talking about, every screen shot I have seen other people take of oblivion on their PC has been much worse than what I am seeing on my non-HD tv. Even though I know with the right hardware it can surpass it. I've seen the game on HD as well, and it doesn't make the game much better, unless Shifty's HD has some magical power to make the 360 more powerful and increase the graphical ability, he is full of shit- it only makes the game screen bigger and the picture sharper. Not that it doesn't make a noticable differance for the better, it doesn't change the graphics from crappy to mind blowing. For god's sake Shifty, try to make a lie believable before you say it.

[Archduke Tips]

Frankly, I hate the Oblivion leveling system.... so I just cheat every now and then and make my character how I feel he should be.

I play games for the story lines and the exploration... I don't care for "leveling" and all character building.

I like more to feel like I am watching a movie. Oblivion is really cool because every now and then I see something that makes me go "whoa!"

[the_dudefather]

yeah i have a decent enough pc but it looks and runs a lot better on my non-hdtv xbox360. maybe if you had ultimate kickass pc hardware it would look better, but the xbox plays it great all the same.

and imo lockpicking is a bit easier with a joystick :)

[Tropical]

so baby, what's your sign?

[Shifty]

The main source of soul gems is by finding them in caves or ruins, you can't buy or steal any soul gems other than crappy one's.

And I have no idea what shifty is talking about, every screen shot I have seen other people take of oblivion on their PC has been much worse than what I am seeing on my non-HD tv. Even though I know with the right hardware it can surpass it. I've seen the game on HD as well, and it doesn't make the game much better, unless Shifty's HD has some magical power to make the 360 more powerful and increase the graphical ability, he is full of shit- it only makes the game screen bigger and the picture sharper. Not that it doesn't make a noticable differance for the better, it doesn't change the graphics from crappy to mind blowing. For god's sake Shifty, try to make a lie believable before you say it.


i noticed a significant difference between the two. o well, my opionon doesnt matter im me!

[Supafly345]

I did! And I wrote about how you probably don't even know what the hell HDTV actually is!

[Ninjavenom]

Yeah, this game definitely has some "that was fucking awesome" moments. I remember in the Mythic Dawn cave i was being chased by at least 6 of the fuckers and used a Summon Daedroth scroll. He took up the whole hall and whored 3 of them in a single swipe >:]

[Shifty]

I did! And I wrote about how you probably don't even know what the hell HDTV actually is!


High definition. i know waht it is i may not be able to spell it. its TV at high resolutions. yes i know waht im saying probally doesnt make much sense, but it is what i noticed. doesnt mean you will notice the same thing.

[Supafly345]

Oh I get it, you think that higher resolution means better graphics. And since you never actually played it on a HDTV you were just assuming that it would be amazing, trying to make it look like you know what you are talking about and make people think you aren't a retard after saying something crazy like "the 360 has terrible graphics."

i tested out my sisters HDTV a while back with oblivion, and o man was it nice.
Oh I see, you tested it a while back, so you probably just didn't remember is all. The game did come out an entire month ago.

[ziggytrix]

I noticed that Shifty is an idiot.

Did anyone else notice the same thing?

[Supafly345]

He's ArrowX's friend.

[ArrowX]

he used his sisters HDTV about a week ago.

Damn Scott you don't have to sound anonomous to the extent when approximate guesses are completely phased out.

And IT DOES look fuckin bitchin on an HDTV.

[Shifty]

okay let me make my self clearer. The visuals are sharper and crisper, and thus in meaning, makeing the graphics sharper and crisper, thus in my eyes makes the graphics, seem hell off alot better.

[the_dudefather]

so the lack of the tv instantly makes the game 'suck monkey ass'

[BlueOatmeal]

Frankly, I hate the Oblivion leveling system.... so I just cheat every now and then and make my character how I feel he should be.

Is it the same way is was in Morrowind? Where you had to level up like 5 different stats and then take a rest? Its been so long since I've played Morrowind so I could be forgetting something.

[Chojin]

Yeah, it's raise 10 major skills then sleep. Problem is, all skills will raise your levelling modifier by 1 for every 2 skill levels you gain (a warrior who raises 10 levels of alchemy in addition to his major skills would be able to pick a +5 bonus on levelling).

The AF levelling mod changes that around a bit so that minor skills only contribute 25% to attribute gains. Then, you pick whether you want to level every 10 or 15 major skills, 10 or 15 specialization skills ('combat', 'stealth', or 'magic' sets), or 7 to 14 attribute gains. It also gives you your levels instantly without sleeping, which is the only part I dislike because it removes the purpose of inns entirely ;<

[Fathom Zero]

In Morrowind, you got to enhance three skills, but certain skills got multipliers based on one of the Major or Minor skills you used to reach that level up. I think for every 2 you got a multiplier, but I could be wrong.

[Chojin]

Yeah, up to +5. Same deal in Oblivion.

[AChimp]

The graphics in Oblivion are pretty dated by today's standards. The reason people are saying that it looks better on the TV is because of this. A monitor has about 3x the resolution of a television, so the flaws show up more.

[Chojin]

My problem with Oblivion's graphics is that it looks like it's trying to be cutting-edge and settling for new and shit instead of dated and good. Think of pretty much any 3D Playstation 1 game to see what I'm talking about.

Like, the bump-mapping on their skin makes it look like everyone's carved out of solid granite. Most people in that game look horrifying by beauty standards.

Compare that to Psychonauts, which was 'possible' long before that game came out. Yet in 5 years it won't be a laughingstock.

[timrpgland]

The character models are a little strange looking, yes, but Oblivion's graphics are quite good. It might not "age" well but at this point in time it's right up there with some of the best.

I don't have a huge problem with the leveling system. My main annoyance is the fact that there should be more skills in the game like Daggerfall. Sure they have to dumb it down a bit for the main console audience but they could've definately added more to it.

[kahljorn]

"which is the only part I dislike because it removes the purpose of inns entirely"

I hate that too

I also hate the lack of skills, where's spears? cunts.

[Supafly345]

Well, in morrowind it was really fucking easy to overpower your character because there were so many skills, so you were getting +5 stat gains all over the fucking place and could get 100 in everything by level 30.

[That Man]

Twas easy to get rich. *Looks at liweware platter*

[Tropical]

so yea, another idiot question here.

How do you fast forward the time without a bed?

[That Man]

You "illegally sleep on the ground"


although I never get caught.


















All my characters have death warrants.

[timrpgland]

Well, in morrowind it was really fucking easy to overpower your character because there were so many skills, so you were getting +5 stat gains all over the fucking place and could get 100 in everything by level 30.

They could've adjusted for that with a cap on a stat for each level or something. I just feel somewhat limited in character creation. Daggerfall had abilities for almost everything. It wouldn't have been very difficult to add more even if they were "unneeded" skills.

so yea, another idiot question here.

How do you fast forward the time without a bed?

You hit T (on PC obviously) to wait around. It isn't sleeping but it will pass the time.

[That Man]

I already said that.

[Chojin]

how dare you interrupt that man

[timrpgland]

I already said that.

No, actually, you didn't.

You "illegally sleep on the ground"


although I never get caught.


















All my characters have death warrants.

It isn't ILLEGAL and it isn't sleeping. You also didn't say what to push.

[Chojin]

tim you clearly have no idea who That Man is and therefore have no frame of reference

you need look no further than my signature to see exactly why he calls the shots around here

[timrpgland]

I stand corrected.

[Emu]

We've got a pecking order around here

[timrpgland]

I've done further research. That Man is the greatest, bestest, coolest and most awesomest man around. I can only hope to be as cool as that man. I will continue to hope and hope all day long but I can't achieve that kind of greatness. :(

[That Man]

When did I become a dictator?

[Supafly345]

Shhh, the adults are talking.

[Fathom Zero]

That Man is the greatest man that ever lived.

[ziggytrix]

psssh, he's no JC

[King Hadas]

I still think JC was a character.

[executioneer]

guys i think that man needs a title whut whut

[ArrowX]

Why does he have such a great title :( Mine just adds Target lock to the weapons ot textual self esteem killery.

[That Man]

That was your choice.

[ArrowX]

No it wasnt >:

That man should shut his trap about that wich he understands not.

[Chojin]

Hey guys I made a movie!

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/OblivionSlide.avi

you'll need xvid codecs, go google 'kazaa lite codec' if you can't see it ;<

[Moobs]

assault! assault!

I need that game >:

[Ninjavenom]

Hey guys I made a movie!

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/OblivionSlide.avi

you'll need xvid codecs, go google 'kazaa lite codec' if you can't see it ;<


One, i giggled. Two, what did you make that with?

[Moobs]

Fraps (www.fraps.com) I'm guessing.

[Chojin]

yeah fraps. then resized in after effects and encoded in virtualdub ;<

[Moobs]

Chojin what graphics card do you have? I need a new one and yours looks like it has power

[Chojin]

www.i-mockery.com/chojin/OblivionKvatch.avi

Something else that happened with the same guy :<

I have a Powercolor Radeon x800 GT, but you can get way better cards than that now. This one has like half the shaders of a normal x800 ;<

[Zomboid]

:lol man I love the videos for oblivion that people release. Anyone see the ones where they kill that adoring fan guy?

[the_dudefather]

do all the important npcs mearly stunned when you kill them? tried using my "go nuts for 60 so the guards whoop your ass" on one or two and got this was the effect.

propobly better in the long run as i might need them for quests

[Supafly345]

The people who get knocked out are the people that you need to finish the main quests (giulds, oblivion story, maybe more). But you can fail the side quests by killing someone you shouldn't have, but usually it just has a different outcome.

[Chojin]

I didn't know Baurus could die during the quest where you get the 4th mythic dawn book ;< With my mods on it was way too hard to beat any of those fucks there, so i just stole the book off of the guy and then hauled ass out of there. I'LL NEVER KNOW IF BAURUS MADE IT ;_;

[Ninjavenom]

Mine died during the quest where you follow him to the basement. I kinda... burned him alive :(

[kahljorn]

I always feel so guilty when somebody dies during a quest that I restart ;(

You should see me in PVP games. Especially the ones wherein which you die you don't have a character anymore.

[Tropical]

I got the Umbra Sword, which is supposedly the most powerful weapon in the game.

Weightless, 17DMG, Enchantment: Soul Trap 120 secs.

Getting was supposed to be fucking hard untill you're way late into the game. But there was a trick to buy shit loads of potions. Hit the person with the sword and fucking run a few miles into Talos District. The guards will kill her eventually and you can pick up the sword. (She kills like 14 guards before she croaks)

But, god damn i found out it's overrated. The upkeep is expensive as fuck. Unless you're a journeyman at Armory the thing is fucking expensive to fix at a low level.

So seriously, save that shit for later.

[the_dudefather]

anyone else get that hideous npc stuck between one area and the next, as if existing between worlds and not 'in' the game?

[kahljorn]

yea that happened to me at the sigil keeper at the first oblivion gateway thing ;(

[ArrowX]

Has anyone else had Oblivion gates "spawn" around them? Theres this one video I saw a while back where a guy goes to one of the inns and then in the morning theres an oblivion gate like 30 metres into the trees that wasnt' there before.

[Zomboid]

I got the Umbra Sword, which is supposedly the most powerful weapon in the game.

Weightless, 17DMG, Enchantment: Soul Trap 120 secs.

Getting was supposed to be fucking hard untill you're way late into the game. But there was a trick to buy shit loads of potions. Hit the person with the sword and fucking run a few miles into Talos District. The guards will kill her eventually and you can pick up the sword. (She kills like 14 guards before she croaks)

But, god damn i found out it's overrated. The upkeep is expensive as fuck. Unless you're a journeyman at Armory the thing is fucking expensive to fix at a low level.

So seriously, save that shit for later.

I don't think I'm even an expert armorer yet, but that fucker is useful for levelling that skill. It's one of my 7 main skills so I'm constantly needing shit to repair and it was the best for that till I gave it to one of the daedric shrines. Apparently you can refuse to hand it over to the daedra but suddenly it weighs like 45. I didn't bother, got a mask as good as a daedric helm (plus a 20 or so boost to your personality), and just use firebrand instead :O

[Misdemonar]

Has anyone else had Oblivion gates "spawn" around them? Theres this one video I saw a while back where a guy goes to one of the inns and then in the morning theres an oblivion gate like 30 metres into the trees that wasnt' there before.

Yeah, I walked around and the sky just turned red, and it was there.

[Chojin]

So, thanks to OOO, the following happened yesterday:

Chojin says:
i was walking down the road and I saw a spriggan
SEVEN says:
oh no
Chojin says:
i had my trusty mountain cat with me
Chojin says:
so i yelled ATTACK and also summoned a flame elemental
Chojin says:
when the spriggan saw me she summoned a bear
Chojin says:
in the middle of this another spriggan caught on and joined in and summoned another bear
Chojin says:
all the noise pissed off an army of bloody hand goblins, about 12 of them
Chojin says:
at about this time, some bandits tried to rob everyone
Chojin says:
and then the newspaper delivery boy tried to ride through and his horse was instantly murdered
Chojin says:
it was like world war 2
Chojin says:
oh and some other bears joined in

[Chojin]

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/arena.jpg

SON OF GONDOR NO

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/lazyeye.jpg

Are you related to Sevenforce by any chance

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/matius.jpg

I'M OK, REALLY.

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/neckshot.jpg

BREAKING THE LAW ON MY WATC-ARAKKKLKAHJAJKAKL

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/feedthepoor.jpg

I BELIEVE IN FEEDING THE NEEDY.

[The Damp Moose]

So does anyone else have horrible framerates with this motherfucker?

I put all of the sliders on the lowest setting and I still get a clip show everytime I get hit with a fireball.

In addition to that I also did this video card tweak thing where I changed the number of pre-rendered frames from 3 to 0 which helped a little bit. Except now the game crashes every 15 minutes, which sucks harder.

It might have something to do with my having the minimum possible video card (Geforce 5700 FX).

So, anyone have any ideas? Or am I just screwed for another 6 months until I can get a better card?

[kahljorn]

you're probably screwed ;(

Keep tweaking is my best suggestion.

[The Damp Moose]

I'm not too familiar with, you know, screwing with things on my video card.

Am I running any sort of risk of melting it or otherwise fucking up something inside my computer?

[kahljorn]

I didn't mean do anything to your videocard in particular i meant mess with in game settings. Those won't mess up your computer ;(

Try defragging and making sure you have more than 4 gbs of free space on your hard-drive.

[Chojin]

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/OblivionFire.avi

I make ONLY THE FINEST magical items ;<

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/OblivionClouds.avi

Panning shot of the cloud effects in my weather mod.

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/obl/OblivionDancer.avi

Not safe for work. Or anyone :<

[kahljorn]

which mods are you using now, chojin? I'm considering installing a weapon mod.

[Chojin]

Chase Camera Mod - Hard-locks 3rd person camera to be more playable
Vanity Camera Smoother - Makes the vanity pan less sensitive
Potion Sorter - Sorts potions by name first, then strength (Restore Health, Diluted)
Spell Ranks - Sorts spells by name first, then strength (Flare II, Frost III)
Safe Archmage Storage - Puts storage chests in the Mages' Guilds
Retroactive Health - Makes your HP a dynamic value based on current endurance instead of a value that raises each level by a percentage of your endurance at that time.
Fathis Fix - Fixes a bug with the Fathis quest.
No Psychic Guards - Guards will only come running if within earshot.
Perception - Adds a perception spell that you can use to gauge an NPC's relative level.
Visually Enchanted - New effects for fire, shock, and frost-imbued items.
AddSpells - Adds the damage/drain attribute spells to some merchants in the Imperial City (these spells were accidentally made hard-to-get originally due to you out-levelling them)
Mages Guild Quest Fixes - As titled.
Call Steed - Can set markers on horses and summon them to your current location using your Conjuration skill.
MyBrumaFireplace - Fixes the fireplace in the purchasable house in Bruma.
Natural Water - Causes the water to behave and look more realistic.
Oblivion Cats - Adds domestic cats to the cities.
Saddle Bags - By sneaking and 'looting' your horse, you can load it up with a fair amount of gear to prevent you from having to run back to town after every dungeon crawl.
Natural Weather - Added weather effects.
Harvest - Botanical/Alchemical items will change appearence or disappear as appropriate when looted.
Pets Of Chorrol - Choose one of 4 permanent animal companions with some advanced command features.
AF Character Levelling Mod - Levelling becomes dynamic and fixes several core issues with Oblivion's original method. Choose 1 of 6 levelling algorithms.
Keychain - A keychain removes clutter from your inventory.
Attack And Hide - Adds the ability to hide from pursuing enemies instead of them clairvoyantly knowing where you are at all times. Also means you can make multiple sneak attacks while they try to figure out where you are.
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul - Huge mod that changes the way Oblivion works in general, from spawn sizes to loot drops to difficulty, to new armors and effects.

[the_dudefather]

the saddlebag and harvest patches sound good. lucky i still have my *ahem* legal version of oblivion for pc for mods and my xbox version for playing (runs a bit better)

[kahljorn]

You don't need the legal version for mods ;O

Have you tried any of the weapon mods, chojin? LIke Kal's or 300 weapons? They are supposed to make it a little more dynamic so it doesn't feel like you're using the same weapon all the time.

[Archduke Tips]

Your graphics card isn't the only thing that you need to think about for running this game. All your components have to work together well.... and I think the most neglected component that may seriously affect Oblivion performance is the sound card.

Without a good sound card, your CPU is going to have to do most of the work, and that will seriously slow down your performance.

[Chojin]

I haven't, no. I don't even know what that is. :<

Saddlebags royally fucked me. I dumped a bunch of my shit onto the horse. Then, I couldn't ride it anymore, just use it for storage. So I mark it and try to summon it elsewhere. No dice. I go to a town and there's no message that the horse is in the stable, but he is anyway. Now I can only ride him, no inventory. No matter how many times I push that bastard off a cliff now, I'll never get all my loot back :<

[kahljorn]

It modifies the weapons to make them more distinctive I guess; They adjusted the rates and damages to things like weight and reach to actual size in game. So they made the big hammers slower and lower reach but really strong; claymores faster, not as strong and have more reach than hammers, but still do alot more damage than regular swords or maces.

Was just curious if you had tried it out. I think I might try it out myself, just trying to decide which one.

[MetalMilitia]

It might have something to do with my having the minimum possible video card (Geforce 5700 FX).


Oblivion uses a huge number of shaders on everything. The FX series of cards are incapable of using more than a couple at once due to some architectual constraints. Could be that when you get hit by a fireball it creates a big heat hazy pixel shaded cloud which pushes your card too far.

[kahljorn]

There's some mods out available for helping low end cards. Some of them just tweak settings, others might do things like turn off or simplify spell effects, however I saw one that was specifically for using higher settings on low end cards.

I'd reccomend searching the Mod Forum at www.elderscrolls.com or trying www.tessource.com maybe.

I might be wrong on the tessource url.
I had a low end card and ended up upgrading ;(

[EisigerBiskuit]

Pyramid Head (http://rapidshare.de/files/19128962/tda_PHModv1.1.zip.html) - Adds Pyramid Head armour set and a new quest.

/boner

[Zomboid]

Can someone install that one and check it out? Screenshots too please :O

[Supafly345]

Hello? Is this thing on? SCREENSHOTS

[the_dudefather]

im trying dag nabbit, there is a quest you gotta do before you get it

cant get past the seal of metatron :(

edit: found some screens, http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=409854&st=0

[the_dudefather]

what kind of builds are you guys using?

this my my current one:

name: chekt
race: dark elf
sign: mage
class: shadowblade (custom)
-athletics
-blade
-alteration
-destruction
-illusion
-light armor
-sneak

i use a 10 second invisiblity spell to get multible 6x attack bonuses in fights against some enemies (ogres are great for this as they cant see you coming :)

havent had much luck playing as a warrior type character: any tips?

[kahljorn]

Block then strafe behind them while hitting them as many times as possible. Get kal's weapon rebalance, it's extremely helpful for fighters.

I haven't played a stealth character yet, I have a woodelf prepared for it though.

[the_dudefather]

pity im playing the 360 version :/

yeah i love stealth characters in this game, mostly crap in direct fight situations

had a lot of fun with a pure mage character (default mage class, high elf)

might adapt the battlemage class or something for a warrior character

[executioneer]

i have a lv 35 orc "wanderer" (custom)
blade
light armor (maxed)
armorer
alchemy (maxed)
destruction
speechcraft
security

strength is maxed out, other stats range from mid-60s to mid-70s

i have got:
a glass longsword with a 20 electric damage enchant (from the runestone in the kvatch oblivion gate)
a glass bow that deals 14 pts of each type of elemental damage + drains speed by 21 for 2 seconds (custom enchant)
that apron of adroitness or w/e that is as good as elven armor plus gives +9 to agi/int,
a "necklace of swords" that i found in some vampire lair, that gives 33% reflect damage and +25 to sword skill

and a bunch of other CRAP

[CaptainBubba]

This game is buttfuck easy. I'm primarilly a conjuror and so far I have been able to just summon a daedroth for every fight and go take a dump and wait for it to kill everything. Even if that failed I have like 10 blades that do 20 to 50 magic damage on hit, the arena champion light armor (Becoming arena champion took about 1 hour), and some wierd rings that are apparently worth about 5000g each, and 12,000g.

But its still really fun : (

[Chojin]

The game is nowhere near that easy with OOO ;<

[executioneer]

i kind of wish i could get JUST the creatures don't level with you bit from oscuros ;_;

and i know the "lite" one prob. lets you but i could not find a place where i could download it so again ;_;

[Chojin]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=440759

come on willie it wasn't that hard

[executioneer]

i guess the elderscrolls forum search does not like me or something cuz i tried it before and got nothing ;_;

[Fathom Zero]

I'm having a bit of touble trying to complete the quest to get the manor in Anvil.

I got both the skeletal hand and journal, got the dude from Imperial City to open the door, he took off afterward. I walk up to the skeleton, he talks, and it says I need to replace the hand. I figured I still had it in my inventory so I click on the bony dude. As it turns out, I don't have it and I don't think I sold it. That guy must've taken it when he ran off, so does anyone know where to find him after he runs away?

[Supafly345]

No, he doesn't take it. I don't think you can even pick up the hand until its time to use it. And you can't sell it. If you go back up to the urn and it is still missing, you are fucked.

[Fathom Zero]

Fuck. Maybe I dropped it back in the tavern.

[the_dudefather]

I still haven't completed this damn game, I like playing as stealthy characters but they keep getting too weak later in the game, I suck at levelling I guess, or I should exploit the system or something

[executioneer]

the way its set up by default kind of penalizes you for picking main skills that you're actually gonna use :( and since the monsters level up with you, if you do it wrong they eventualaly get way too tough :( there are patches that change the way leveling works, but if you don't have the PC version that kind of doesn't help huh :/

[Fathom Zero]

That's why you should pick the skills you use most as minor skills, that way you get the bonuses when you level up. HOWEVER, if you don't put them as the major skills, the ones left as majors won't go up enough for you to level and thus no bonuses. Balance is key, as I found out in the hard way.

[Zomboid]

My stealthy khajiit is pretty tough. I just jump over people and rain arrows on em.

[kahljorn]

I've always hated the elder scrolls leveling system. Good idea, but extremely poor implementation... that, and the extremely boring combat, is what makes me not play it. I do like archers and magic, though. Archers are really the only characters ive ever been able to play with for extended periods of time.
There's this new game out called Two Worlds that seems like it has an awesome archery system... gothic 3's looked kind of cool, too.

I liked that in elder scrolls three you could only get to like level 75 or something in your minor skills. Kind of helped with the balance, sort of not really.

[the_dudefather]

what if say, I had blade, light armour and block as majors (ie stuff that will actually keep me alive), and the rest as unused randoms, then played as a stealthy character?

would that be a good balance?

[Fathom Zero]

I'd say yeah.

[Supafly345]

My High Elf is devistating. I started him as a sorcerer, under the sign on whatever gives you a magic boost right? And then I trained him as a warrior, making sure to raise his endurance first, and making sure to level him at the exact right moment to maximise his stat gain. I haven't played the game since last july, but when I get back to him and finish him up, it'll be gruesome.

I had almost every warrior skill maxed when I last left it.

[the_dudefather]

so far my new argonian warrior/thief thing is going ok, got the fighters guild and main quest done, will try and finish up the thief guild tomarrow, meaning I will have gotten all the achievements for the original game

given that I got most of the main quest lines done, its crazy that there are so many sub quests around the game, it feels like It would take months to finish them all, which I would be tempted to do (aybe heading to shivering isles first)