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Mike
Aug 15th, 2003, 08:25 PM
My neighbor just got busted big-time for downloading (or uploading?) mp3s on kazaa, so now I wonder if I should just forget about file sharing from now on. My brother thinks that you can only get in trouble for sharing, not downloading, and that it only applies to mp3s.

Can we safely download movies? I figured we might as well help each other out in this thread. I will post here if I find out any reliable info.

Perndog
Aug 15th, 2003, 08:36 PM
People on Kazaa get busted for uploading, not downloading. You can download all you want, as long as the spies don't see you sharing all sorts of stuff. You have two options here:

1. Don't share any files; you can disable uploading in Kazaa.

2, the better choice: Use Kazaa Lite (also comes without Adware, unlike Kazaa) and turn on the privacy option, which prevents your computer from sending lists of your available files; people will still find your files on individual searches, but they can't just search your files. This will limit anyone's view of your collection to whatever is being transferred at that time (I allow 2 max uploads), and you'll be pretty much safe, since the RIAA is all about their "5% of users sharing 95% of the files" idea - they're only after those they can nail down with hundreds or thousands of shared files.

Kazaa Lite should also be getting new features to increase security soon. Good luck.

Mike
Aug 15th, 2003, 09:10 PM
Your new role as tech support is very valuable, Perndog. :) :hatsoff

Bestrest
Aug 16th, 2003, 04:59 AM
Please, Remember one thing..

KaZaA is a really hairy sack of crap!
Why?
1. most of the programs are like: LESBIANPORN.avi.EXE (size 44 kb)
Total virushole.
2. guys are spying on you, they see you :/ They download shit from you and then will stab you in the back, you will sit in jail few years.
3. Spyware that makes your computer crash :) even lite vers has some spyware! No spyware in KaZaA = KaZaA wont work.

MY FIRSt POSt!! weeeeee i am dee smartest maan in dee woorld

Schimid
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:02 AM
...>:

Although Kazaa Lite is probably the better choice, I have WinMX now. Sure, you're remotely queued for about 95% of the downloads, but they come in fast.

The layout is good too, if you have MusicMatch Jukebox running constantly and hidden on the side of the screen.

Perndog
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:20 AM
First, Kazaa Lite isn't a "lite version" of Kazaa, it's a free ripoff by people who were pissed off at Kazaa for including adware. And neither Kazaa nor Kazaa Lite contains any spyware; Kazaa Lite is a not-for-profit project, so its creators wouldn't have any reason to add spyware, and Kazaa has enough no-spyware guarantees that a thousand hackers would have them in court over it already. You download Kazaa Lite, you install Kazaa Lite, and you don't get any other programs with it. Yes, you can find out some info about other people's computers with it, if you have some extra software. No shit - it's a file sharing system, you're directly connecting to someone else's machine. But you can protect yourself from this with the aforementioned protection method. And there's no damn way it can be called spyware. Kazaa Lite has never made my computer crash or done anything worse than suck up some of my CPU cycles, and I am running a bastard copy of Windows XP that is the most unstable piece of shit I've ever witnessed. Get a clue. >:

There are, at any given time, at least a half a billion files available on the network shared by Kazaa, Grokster, Morpheus, etc. You can find nearly any program, song, movie, or maybe TV show that you're looking for, and there are few other places you can access such a huge library of material and nowhere as reliably (because there are simply more people using Kazaa). Of these, yes, there is going to be quite a bit of useless or harmful shit. Any file sharing network is going to have bogus files on it, that's why you have to have an average 8 year old's competence to use one safely. Anyone dumb enough to download any of the following is a stupid asshole who deserves to get a computer virus (among other things). >:

1. A PROGRAM that says it's porn. People who want porn search for images or videos, not programs. :rolleyes
2. Any program that's supposed to do anything useful that is 44k.
3. Any file with a sneaky double extention (.avi.EXE) if you don't know what to do with it.

Your first post! Weeee, you totally wasted it on eing an ignorant douche bag. The door's over there. :newbie

Bestrest
Aug 16th, 2003, 08:14 AM
wow dude, rough start :)

Anyway: You were new also, noone is saved by being new.

OK:

1. ANYTHING may be virus, even game rips, you never may be sure. They maybe have adden few "trainers"(viruses).
(BTW: i downloaded Mortal Kombat 4 from KaZaA and the trainer was with CIH virus :P )
2. OK, MAYBE i forgot to mention that i have heard a rumour about that Lite has spyware.
3. I hate you, screw you.

Mike
Aug 16th, 2003, 12:04 PM
You were new also, noone is saved by being new.

Please shut up.

Perndog
Aug 16th, 2003, 04:41 PM
I kind of left it to common sense that you should scan every executable that you download. I guess some people don't even get that, which further supports my theory that you're stupid. Understand this. I'm not picking on you because you're new, I'm picking on you because you're new and you're a complete moron. Got it?

"Trainers" are cheat programs for computer games. Once again, educate yourself before saying something and you might come across as a little less painfully stupid.

Rongi
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:06 PM
I'm picking on you because you're new and you're a complete moron. Got it?

Oh the fucking irony

Esuohlim
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:11 PM
NEW RULE FOR PERNDOG:

No more posting, Perndog.

Perndog
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:20 PM
New rule for Esuohlim and Rongi:

No more being useless, guys.

Esuohlim
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:21 PM
I HAVE SENIORITY. FOLLOW THE RULES

Perndog
Aug 16th, 2003, 05:24 PM
Right. You signed up four months before I did so you get to tell me what to do. :rolleyes Piss off. You want to harass me, go start a Perndog hate thread in Mock Wars or wait til I really am being an idiot, don't just randomly attack me. It gets tedious.

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 02:12 AM
And neither Kazaa nor Kazaa Lite contains any spyware; Kazaa Lite is a not-for-profit project, so its creators wouldn't have any reason to add spyware, and Kazaa has enough no-spyware guarantees that a thousand hackers would have them in court over it already.
Yes it does, you pretentious retard. It's called Cydoor, and Kazaa won't operate without it installed.

imported_Wicked Steve
Aug 17th, 2003, 02:19 AM
:rolleyes

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 02:20 AM
Cydoor is a banner service that Kazaa uses. It downloads ads and displays them in Kazaa, randomly replacing them and accessing the server for new banners. The only information it sends back to the server is a list of the banners displayed, the frequency of each, and any clicks to the ads. No information about the user's computer is sent or is available to the server.

Thus, Cydoor is annoying but harmless adware, not spyware. As I said, there are enough no-spyware guarantees on Kazaa's site and enough competent users around that if Kazaa did include anything that could possibly be seen as spyware there would be lawsuits galore by now.

Now, next time you want to call someone a pretentious retard, make sure they're full of shit first. >:

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:24 AM
How about I do whatever I want and don't come off as a contestant on Beat The Geeks, you raving shit stabber?

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:27 AM
Go for it. Just don't expect any respect. If someone posts like they know what they're talking about, and they don't, I'm going to correct them. Deal with it. At least I posted in this thread to be helpful.

Bestrest
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:30 AM
Cydoor is a banner service that Kazaa uses. It downloads ads and displays them in Kazaa, randomly replacing them and accessing the server for new banners. The only information it sends back to the server is a list of the banners displayed, the frequency of each, and any clicks to the ads. No information about the user's computer is sent or is available to the server.

Thus, Cydoor is annoying but harmless adware, not spyware. As I said, there are enough no-spyware guarantees on Kazaa's site and enough competent users around that if Kazaa did include anything that could possibly be seen as spyware there would be lawsuits galore by now.

Now, next time you want to call someone a pretentious retard, make sure they're full of shit first. >:

Let me tell you a small & sad story.

Cydoor is a spyware, yes it is, becouse you wanted ONLY KaZaA BUT you got Cydoor(spyware) and other crap with it! KaZaA wont work at all after you have scan'n'remove the spyware. becouse KaZaA NEEDS spyware to work! They need to make some crappy popup windows with Buy Now or Do you want an auto-replacement wallpapers? Even Imesh has some!. Use Edonkey or Emule, No spyware and works fine! Use FTP servers!

Remember: Sometimes you might even FORGET to scan the stuff you download? whatcha gonna do then?

ItalianStereotype
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:34 AM
hey pern, why the fuck are you such a pretentious cock? when in the presence of your betters, you will speak only when we say so. now please, continue with your desperate bid to look witty and cool and while you're at it, pick my cotton.

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:39 AM
Go for it. Just don't expect any respect.
I desire your respect almost as badly as you desire a life unfettered by patriarchal rape attempts.

ItalianStereotype
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:41 AM
but when he struts around in those fishnet hose and schoolgirl skirts, what the fuck would he be expecting?

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:41 AM
http://www.spychecker.com/spyware.html

Are all Adware products "Spyware"?
No, but the majority are. There are also products that do display advertising but do not install any tracking mechanism on your system. These products are not indexed in our database.

This is the point I was trying to make. Cydoor, while annoying and extraneous, is not spyware because it doesn't do anything but display ads. And since ads piss people off, more and more people are using Kazaa Lite instead, which runs without Cydoor.

Emule is a good program, too, I just never managed to find the files I was looking for there.

And if you forget to scan what you download, what does that have to do with the place you got the file from?

EDIT: oh yeah, I forgot, you're all better than me because you've been on these boards for a long time. None of us knows anything about each other's real lives, so who are you to say you're better than I am? And how does anyone construe arguing about software as a way to act cool? If anything, it would make a person seem like a geek, which I'm not - I have Comp Sci major friends for that.

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:51 AM
http://popndeth.chambergates.com/imock/whoops.gif

Uhhh, I don't think a comma goes THERE. :rolleyes
Next time try LEARNING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE before you post. :rolleyes

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:58 AM
That might have been funny if it were actually a mistake and if it were one big enough to be worth correcting.

Schimid
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:58 AM
:lol

ItalianStereotype
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:59 AM
odd how something so unfunny can still make everyone laugh at you though.

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:01 AM
W-What gives you the carte blanche to take this attitude with me, sir? I cross-referenced several respectable publications on grammar and puncutation; your comma was simply out-of-line. If you mean to write improperly, go for it. Just don't expect any respect. If someone posts like they know what they're talking about, and they don't, I'm going to correct them. Deal with it. At least I posted in this thread to be helpful.

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:02 AM
Yup, I hear *everyone* laughing at me, too. All two of you.

EDIT: So, Chojin, of the two of us, who started the insults? Who called me a retard and expected me to just take it? The only things I've corrected in this thread have been people flat out telling me I'm wrong, when I haven't been. I attacked the newbie because not only was he ignorant, he was smug about it. I'm not picking out everyone's little errors, just arguing when people contradict me - if someone randomly said, "no, you're wrong," and you weren't, would you just shrug and let it slide? I doubt it - you'd set them straight and probably throw in a few insults.

So how long are we going to keep this up?

MLE
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:03 AM
:lol at perndog :lol

ItalianStereotype
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:06 AM
oh trust me, EVERYONE is laughing. your mom, your dad, the hermaphrodite that you made the snuff/scat tape with, we're all enjoying your squealing. chojin bent you over and teased your cornhole, good times all around.

oh look, perndog edited. what a completely cuntified tactic.

Schimid
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:07 AM
:lol at this fucking thread >:

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:14 AM
:lol

Oh look, ItalianStereotype edited, not because more posts came while he was typing, but because he was trying to be an asshole.

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:15 AM
Popndeth: Pardon me, but I find your demeanor in my thread repulsive.
Pernthedog: wha
Popndeth: I hereby submit my request for an apology
Pernthedog: fuck u i am ornery bcuz i injured my anus tryin to wash the model airplane glue out
Popndeth: Good sir!
Pernthedog: lol jus kidin
Pernthedog: its wood glue :-(

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:22 AM
Damn it, that was taken out of context!

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:30 AM
(Log (http://popndeth.chambergates.com/imock/perndogisrude.html)) I've heard enough for one fortnight. You are a contemptible sneak.

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:34 AM
I don't get where "sneak" or "rude" comes in here, and I don't get how you shamelessly baiting me and me not biting makes it worth posting our chat log, but hey, whatever turns your crank.

EDIT: :lol Chojin says stay away from his boards. I sure will stay away from your boards, (http://pub97.ezboard.com/bpopndeth) champ.

G├ąte
Aug 17th, 2003, 07:41 AM
BEST THREAD EVER

Skulhedface
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM
Much kudos to Chojin for turning a craptastic thread into comedy gold :love

imported_Wicked Steve
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:07 PM
I thought the whole thing was kind of boring. :rolleyes

Schimid
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:10 PM
YOU'RE kind of boring. :rolleyes

imported_Wicked Steve
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:11 PM
You don't need to remind me.

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:11 PM
I wish we could all just get serious here :rolleyes

Perndog
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:27 PM
Chojin's right, this is a very serious topic. :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

Rongi
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:36 PM
New rule for Esuohlim and Rongi:

No more being useless, guys.

OH THE FUCKING IRONY

AGAIN

And Wicked Steve is one of the lamest people on this entire board.

The lamest being none other then Perndog.

Schimid
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:38 PM
We should make a whole list of the lamest people on the site and no one will ever ever read their posts.

imported_Wicked Steve
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:49 PM
I stand by my boring thread comment. Celebrating "piss on Perndog day" may be a great idea, but if you think people are so worthless, why do you pay them the attention required to bitch at them after every post they make?

Schimid
Aug 17th, 2003, 05:00 PM
We pick on those we love. :)

Anonymous
Aug 17th, 2003, 06:41 PM
It's kind of the point of the site, Steven.

imported_Wicked Steve
Aug 17th, 2003, 07:07 PM
I thought this was also part of the point:

The whole "you're a faggot, you're retarded, etc etc." simply demonstrates that you're an uncreative halfwit with nothing to say.

There were a few posts that I laughed at, but it was mostly:

you pretentious retard.
you raving shit stabber?
pretentious cock?
your mom, your dad, the hermaphrodite that you made the snuff/scat tape with, we're all enjoying your squealing. chojin bent you over and teased your cornhole

But whatever. I know my place, I'm too new and already disliked enough for my opinion to be worthless, since people around here seem to think they're gods and start hating you the first time you insult them (regardless of how they treat you beforehand). It would be funnier if people didn't take each other so seriously.

Retards.

Rongi
Aug 17th, 2003, 07:16 PM
I know I'm not a god

I just don't like you

It has nothing to do with being new

You're just boring and lame

Like PBS

ScruU2wice
Aug 17th, 2003, 09:30 PM
We should make a whole list of the lamest people on the site and no one will ever ever read their posts.

crap, im in trouble... :chatter

Anonymous
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:25 AM
Stevey, I've made tons of posts that aren't like that. As you said, those are the only the ones you laughed at. Making you gay.

If you knew your place, you'd stay there instead of bothering us. Piss off.

The_voice_of_reason
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:43 AM
We should make a whole list of the lamest people on the site and no one will ever ever read their posts.


I GET TO BE ON THE TOP OF THAT LIST :picklehat

Perndog
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:47 AM
That spot at the top is mine. Cower in the shadow of my awesome lameness. :pirate

The_voice_of_reason
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:51 AM
Shut up fucktard

The_voice_of_reason
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:51 AM
Just because everyone hates me, doesn't mean i like you.

Perndog
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:54 AM
I've got a good response to that, hang on..









It's coming...








Wait for it...










*grunt*







:fart

CaptainBubba
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:26 AM
http://www.jerrysommer.com/Graphics/pics/Only%20God%20Knows%20Why_small.jpg

The_voice_of_reason
Aug 18th, 2003, 11:52 AM
What is Jesus looking at?

Rongi
Aug 18th, 2003, 11:55 AM
I made that my backround :(

ScruU2wice
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:49 PM
What is Jesus looking at?

probably looking to God for answers...

Command Prompt
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:49 PM
I bet he's looking at a TERRORIST EAGLE about to take a SHIT on HIM

Schimid
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:53 PM
GUYS. He's obviously looking for guidance from Jesus. :rolleyes

Command Prompt
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:59 PM
WTF???? He IS Jesus

NIGhtMAre
Aug 27th, 2003, 01:01 PM
No, he is a imposter. He is accutlly this guy.

http://www.teammadcow.com/hon2002/retard.jpg

Command Prompt
Aug 28th, 2003, 02:21 AM
I BET HE'D HIT IT