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Kitsa
Mar 21st, 2012, 10:09 PM
I went to Kentucky for my birthday because there was shit that needed to be seen. The Answers in Genesis Creation Museum was one of these things.

I'm trying to walk a fairly inoffensive line here, but let me reiterate that the Answers in Genesis people are NOT your standard Christians. Many visitors seem to be a little confused about that one, and they think they're coming to see the sort of family-friendly Biblical wonderland that Ned Flanders might come up with if he had a billion dollars and some real estate in Kentucky. Then they see the dinosaur stuff and heads get scratched.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/signsmall.jpg

This is the sign on the front door. The complex is big and the Answers in Genesis people aren't messing around- there are armed guards. We were watched coming in and there is always the threat of purses and packs being confiscated and searched. All of the faces are deadly-serious in a creepily welcoming evangelical manner.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/godswordsmall.jpg
One of the things you see again and again at the Creation Museum is the phrase, "What are all dinosaur fossils missing? Tags, telling how old they are!"

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/fossilssmall.jpg
Slick and expensive-looking animatronic scientists explain that dinosaur fossils could not possibly be millions of years old, because the Bible (their interpretation) tells us that the Earth is only a few thousand years old. Therefore, it's perfectly reasonable to expect that there were dinosaurs aplenty in Biblical times. They don't get around to explaining why these dinosaurs are not around today. There was a vague chart about the diversity of dogs but they stopped short of making an actual declaration.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/bibledinossmall.jpg

So, yeah, there were lots of dinosaurs in the Bible. They just got dropped from the text due to some unexplained bias of the authors. They took the idea of dinos cavorting with Biblical folk and turned it into the Major Theme of the museum, that and how ludicrous it was to imagine that canyons were carved in rock by the flow of river over thousands of years. Just look at Mount St. Helens! Never mind "what ABOUT Mount St. Helens"...just look at it!

There's a lot of space devoted to very elaborate depictions of the Garden of Eden. Some may not be quite what you'd expect.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/gardenofedensmall.jpg

Adam and Eve get a lot of face time. Adam always has something covering his bits and Eve always has her hair strategically draped. They meet in a lush forest, they bathe in a lily-filled waterfall lagoon that looks like something straight out of a Sybaris.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/adamandevebathesmall.jpg

Eve's transgression, they maintained, caused all woes in the world. All dinosaurs had been herbivores up to this point, but when God got pissed off they just started tearing into everyone and everything. Eve is also somehow responsible for the existence of weeds.

After that, a lot got glossed over until they got to Noah, and that's when the dinosaur thing had a chance to really shine. Because, according to the Answers in Genesis people, there were absolutely dinosaurs on the Ark. Probably two to seven of each type, even. Not to worry, they were easy to transport because all dinosaurs at that time were about the size of ponies, for serious.

Feast your eyes on the dinosaurs being led up the gangplank as two triceratops wait their turn.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/dinosintoarksmall.jpg

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/triceratopsonthearksmall.jpg

The museum is currently accepting donations for their life-sized ark project, but until then there is a slightly smaller scale version you can walk through. Animatronic workmen hammer and saw and express skepticism. You can also see a smaller scale version that shows berths set aside for dinosaurs. I just don't know of any stronger proof than that.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/arkworkerssmall.jpg

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/arkscaffoldingsmall.jpg

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/dinosinthearksmall.jpg

I was doing really well in the general respect department up to this point, but I about lost it when I was standing behind these Brethren ladies listening to Robot Noah.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/noahsmall.jpg

He was "answering questions" about the Ark, when a voice called from offstage, "Hey, Dad, did you make room for the t-rexes?" Noah chuckled...what a scamp, right?...and said, "I'll be with you in just a minute, Japeth! I just want to answer a few more of these nice people's questions!" I had to leave.

Viewpoint on Darwin: not so keen on Darwin.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/noondarwinsmall.jpg

Viewpoint on Atheists: not so keen on atheists.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/atheistsmall.jpg (I'm not entirely sure about the God is Dead tombstone. It's like a double negative.)

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/schoolsmall.jpg

Yeah, that's for sure.

The place is slick, immaculate and just dripping money. Every time you stop in front of a display, a voice booms, "The Lord God...(blahblah explanation of what you're seeing)." It always starts "The Lord God...", and as other people stop in front of other displays you hear a whole chorus of it, like Charlton Heston doing his Bible on Tape reading in some sort of audio hall of mirrors. But there's also an outdoor component- a vast sprawl of dinosaur topiaries, weird bridges, gardens and petting zoo exhibits to be explored. So you pass the triceratops photo op (the sign reads, "This is what an actual triceratops saddle may have looked like!"), not stopping because there are five million churchgroup kids there, and out the door.

I'm not 100% on where zen gardens fit in with the whole Creationist belief system, but there is one.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/zensmall.jpg

I'm not sure where the various hybrids in the petting zoo, like this "zonkey" (zebra-donkey), fit in either.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/zonkeysmall.jpg

All I know was that there were monitors all over the place and the head honcho Answers in Genesis guy, Ken Ham, was delivering regular sermons to museum visitors. He kind of looked like Richard Branson, if Richard Branson were a slightly darker and more twisted Die Hard villain sort of guy. The paperback of his autobiography was on sale in one of the giftshops for $99, and people were buying 3 or 4 at a time.

You can see him, and the Duggars, in the museum here:
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So...yeah, there was that. Then we stopped in nearby Rabbit Hash, Kentucky, famous for electing animals as mayors (the current mayor of Rabbit Hash is a border collie named Lulu). Lulu wasn't in evidence, but here's a shot of the general store, which is more famous than I thought. It was more souvenir and boutique-y stuff, which was a disappointment. It was also more biker-ish than Green Acres, which was another disappointment.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/rabbithashgeneralstoresmall.jpg

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/rabbithashpigcrossingsmall.jpg

So that was my birthday.

Dr. Boogie
Mar 21st, 2012, 10:43 PM
I don't get the atheist picture. Is he supposed to be burying the church's ideas, or concepts that the church has defeated, or what?

Kitsa
Mar 21st, 2012, 11:03 PM
I was unclear on that also. I think that, from the Museum's standpoint, he was burying God and all belonging to him/Him. I could almost limp that concept along until I got to the God is Dead that he was burying, because that didn't belong. Burying the veracity of Genesis, got it. Burying or turning away from God's Word, got it. Burying or concealing Truth, got it.

But if he's burying God is Dead, he's a shitty atheist.

Tadao
Mar 22nd, 2012, 12:29 AM
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/kitsa_for_imockery2/gardenofedensmall.jpg

That lamb looks startled.

darkvare
Mar 22nd, 2012, 12:39 AM
i want a penguin as a pet now

kahljorn
Mar 22nd, 2012, 01:42 AM
i dunno but burying genesis is also an oxymoron

Esuohlim
Mar 22nd, 2012, 01:44 AM
I'd fuck the shit out of Eve.

Aaarg
Mar 22nd, 2012, 08:00 AM
oh man, the creationist museum. that's awesome. someday i'll trek out that way. thx4sharing

(also i watched a documentary on rabbit hash!)

Kitsa
Mar 22nd, 2012, 08:40 AM
Did you? I didn't know one existed.

The creationist museum was expensive. I went in there thinking maybe $20 a ticket tops, but it was $50 for 2 people.

Zhukov
Mar 22nd, 2012, 12:06 PM
Being a militant atheist, I was actually most angered by the fact that the are telling people that they must allow for their bags or purses to be searched.

kahljorn
Mar 22nd, 2012, 12:39 PM
but they have extremely rare and expensive disnosaur fossils that date back only 6000 years

Colonel Flagg
Mar 22nd, 2012, 01:39 PM
Are they afraid that someone might want to deface their museum attractions for the purposes of devil worship, or worse, atheism? Just wondering ...

This is another one of those times where I can't wait to get home, outside the firewall, so I can view this treasure trove in its entirety.

Colonel Flagg
Mar 22nd, 2012, 01:41 PM
but they have extremely rare and expensive disnosaur fossils that date back only 6000 years

Ahhh, apparently those were the ones with the "This fossil was created on March 21, 3989 B.C." tags.

Colonel Flagg
Mar 22nd, 2012, 01:50 PM
I wonder what these guys would say about this (http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news-IN-Ancient-Camel-Fossils-Found-in-Panama-Canal-031612.aspx?et_cid=2542502&et_rid=41411009&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.scientificcomputing.com%2f news-IN-Ancient-Camel-Fossils-Found-in-Panama-Canal-031612.aspx)? After all, camels are in the Bible.

Tadao
Mar 22nd, 2012, 02:04 PM
Are they afraid that someone might want to deface their museum attractions for the purposes of devil worship, or worse, atheism? Just wondering ...

You can still jerk off in the bathroom and throw your cum on gods creations.

Tadao
Mar 22nd, 2012, 02:04 PM
or even poop! :eek

kahljorn
Mar 22nd, 2012, 02:10 PM
i hope they clone that thing it would be a great pet

Tadao
Mar 22nd, 2012, 02:33 PM
I wonder what these guys would say about this (http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news-IN-Ancient-Camel-Fossils-Found-in-Panama-Canal-031612.aspx?et_cid=2542502&et_rid=41411009&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.scientificcomputing.com%2f news-IN-Ancient-Camel-Fossils-Found-in-Panama-Canal-031612.aspx)? After all, camels are in the Bible.
A devote christian I met a long time ago told me that dinosaur bones were put in the earth by satan to convince us that god isn't real, thus totally winning the high score of human souls.

Esuohlim
Mar 22nd, 2012, 02:36 PM
I thought they were put there by God himself to test our faith. Because God is an insecure teenager with low self-esteem and needs to trick us into validating him.

ThrashO
Mar 22nd, 2012, 03:45 PM
athiest liberals are just as big of fags as christians.

Pretty bad ass that noah was telling dinosaurs what to do though.

Tadao
Mar 22nd, 2012, 06:34 PM
athiest liberals are just as big of fags as christians.

What is this in reference to?

darkvare
Mar 22nd, 2012, 06:42 PM
i was thinking damn nah had some balls you know hauling all thsse dinosaurs but then i saw they were the size of ponies in the diorama so they are just scalley animals no biggie

Mad Melvin
Mar 22nd, 2012, 07:17 PM
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Always get a chuckle out of this one.

Zhukov
Mar 22nd, 2012, 11:40 PM
Maybe the dinosaurs in the Bible where smaller, and then they evolved to be bigger.

Everyone wins.

Kitsa
Mar 23rd, 2012, 06:27 AM
I was thinking maybe they started out small, as herbivores, before Eve fucked up. After that, when God said, "Oh, screw it, eat whatever you want", they got some meat on their bones and got huge.

I was a little confused about that whole herbivore/carnivore delineation because it seems as if that would have made them a little difficult for Noah to handle. I had this vivid mental imagery of Utahraptors and Velociraptors tear-assing around and ripping up the other occupants of, you know, Jurassic Ark.

Zhukov
Mar 23rd, 2012, 11:07 AM
Velociraptors were actually very small and had feathers .... oh shit; the creation museum is slightly more correct than Jurassic Park.

Colonel Flagg
Mar 23rd, 2012, 12:01 PM
It's slightly less fictional than fiction?

I visited their website, and noted their address, at first glance read "Bullshitsburg Church Road". Whoops, my bad.

ThrashO
Mar 23rd, 2012, 02:21 PM
What is this in reference to?

i think i had a point. but now it is gone.

Colonel Flagg
Mar 23rd, 2012, 04:12 PM
Drugs will do that.

Dimnos
Mar 23rd, 2012, 08:47 PM
Slick and expensive-looking animatronic scientists explain that dinosaur fossils could not possibly be millions of years old, because the Bible (their interpretation) tells us that the Earth is only a few thousand years old.

So when determining the age of the world, they take a literal interpretation of the bible as the word of god...

So, yeah, there were lots of dinosaurs in the Bible. They just got dropped from the text due to some unexplained bias of the authors.

but then admit that some shit was left out by human authors. :lol


I recently watched Bill Mahers Religious. Im not a big fan of his but it was a rather amusing film. In it i believe he goes to the creationist museum and talks with the head guy.

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darkvare
Mar 23rd, 2012, 11:34 PM
i don't get it people over here are very religious and you don't see this kind of stuff maybe the cristeras war still keeps priests in line

Kitsa
Mar 24th, 2012, 04:33 AM
Catholic wackiness differs greatly from Protestant wackiness.

kahljorn
Mar 24th, 2012, 04:34 AM
darkvare do you even learn evolution in schools

its because in america we have all this stuff called knowledge and technology and science and religious people realize this and it makes them feel stupid so they try to justify themselves
of course you're not going to have that in a place thats very religious/mexico

Dimnos
Mar 24th, 2012, 03:32 PM
Catholic wackiness differs greatly from Protestant wackiness.

This.

Tacobot
Mar 25th, 2012, 02:55 AM
Jurassic Arc...clever girl i'd watch it. thanks for sharing, very interesting adventures you have and the articles are great.