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Sep 3rd, 2003 03:15 PM
mburbank I think Zuhkov was just doing a Vinth immitation.
Sep 3rd, 2003 02:33 PM
Perndog I look at Bill Clinton in light of GWB, and that puts Clinton on pretty high ground in my opinion. For me, it's not a matter of good things they've done, but bad things they shouldn't have. Clinton: extramarital sex in the office. Big. Fucking. Deal. The President should not have to be our moral compass - we have our respective religions for that. He would have disgraced the office if he let the country go to shit, but he didn't; for all his faults, I'd say we were in better straits in 2000 than we were in 1992. But I'll try to reduce my bias a little and give him two bad guy points for being too horny and lacking self control.

Now, we've got Dubya, and while I blame his administration for a lot of these things, they wouldn't go through without at least his implicit support. Faith-based initiatives, ESPECIALLY financial support to Christian churches - one point. Patriot Act. Another point. Coercion of the UN. Another point. Blocking stem cell research. Another point. He's already way in the hole; I don't feel the need to continue.

I admit that since I'm older now and all of this stuff is more recent, there may have been things about the Clinton administration that I forgot or overlooked, but overall, I think Clinton was miles ahead of Bush, or for that matter, Daddy Bush and Reagan as well.
Sep 3rd, 2003 02:29 PM
sspadowsky Uh.... I'm pretty sure that most of us were complaining. I know I was. I didn't like Clinton at all. But I'd rather have him than the current monkey.
Sep 3rd, 2003 02:17 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Hey, I'm not a Democrat, nor was I a big fan of Clinton. If I had problems with Clinton I complained about him, and I didn't compare him to the sanctimonious wonderfulness or rottenness of previous presidents. So shove it up your ass, dumbass.
Sep 3rd, 2003 01:26 PM
Zhukov And where were you complaining too when Clinton was in power?

Well?

Hear that? Thats the sound of hypocricy.

Didnt think so dumbass.
Sep 3rd, 2003 01:18 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Yeah, but it's always nice to keep his name around to toss blame upon for stuff like 9/11 and the economy. :/
Sep 3rd, 2003 08:57 AM
mburbank I swear to god, if Bush got caught on video tape strangling a puppy the first response out of some corners would be "Yeah, well, Clinton was worse."

Is it even remotely possible to think critically about W. without making an instant comparison to his predecessor?

It's arguable that W. isn't as bad as Taft, but so the fuck what? Is Taft President?

Is the fact that Clinton Spooged in the oval office some sort of get of jail free card for W? If I fail in my job, do I get to tell the Boss "You should have seen what the last guy who had this job did!"

It's not relevant.
Sep 2nd, 2003 04:06 PM
El Blanco There are certain duties a president has. Duties that Clinton ducked.
Sep 2nd, 2003 03:22 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Isn't it presumably more "conservative" to have a less involved, more hands off executive??? I always thought Eisenhower fit sort of an ideal mold in that sense. Whenever I picture him in my head, it's always him swinging a golf club. :/
Sep 2nd, 2003 03:11 PM
El Blanco
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bull shit, clinton rocked.
How? What specific actions did he do to make him a great president?

We will take your list and then put it next to some of the ways he disgraced the office.
Sep 2nd, 2003 12:23 PM
Anagram Anyone can be President in America - the whole country's open to everyone, like the Ritz Hotel.
Sep 2nd, 2003 09:49 AM
mburbank I don't know if he's taken the most vcation time. His Daddy took an awful lot. I DO know he's given less press conferences than Reagan, and that in and of itself is an achievement.
Sep 1st, 2003 12:29 PM
Immortal Goat
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Originally Posted by ziggytrix
PS. I think our current one shows that any imbecile can be president if he has a solid Cabinet behind him.
Bush didn't have a solid cabinet so much as an influential daddy and a brother who was the governor of *GASP* the state that screwed up the election in his favor!
Aug 31st, 2003 07:51 PM
Ninjavenom I don't like to think of him as destroying our country, but rather as him doing what everyone wanted to do when they were a kid: Be president. You didn't wanna be good at it, you just wanted to force your parents to eat their peas.
Aug 31st, 2003 02:29 PM
glowbelly
Aug 31st, 2003 02:15 PM
ziggytrix I'd wager 95% of the people who offer their opinions on the performance of US presidents, past or current, don't know what the fuck they're talking about.


PS. I think our current one shows that any imbecile can be president if he has a solid Cabinet behind him.
Aug 31st, 2003 01:51 PM
O71394658 Shut the fuck up, please.
Aug 31st, 2003 01:46 PM
glowbelly good lord.
Aug 31st, 2003 01:42 PM
bluedisc
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bull shit, clinton rocked. you just let the media tell you otherwise. also i would be a great prez at 19. maybe you couldnt handle the job, but i could. first order of biz, outlaw cars! he's radical, so am i. and why did you call me a moron? that was mean, thats why i said you can't handle the job! that was my witty come back!
Aug 31st, 2003 11:38 AM
CaptainBubba I'm 17 and I would tottally ruin the country if I were president. though at our age we can be of sound mind and logical reasoning we haven't lived long enough to gain all the working knowledge of politics and the specific and trivial details that make it so utterly and unnessecarily confusing.

It would be better to say that I would run a very good tribal village of kindly hunter and getherer folk.

As for Bush, there really isn't much to say. Does anyone know if this is the most vacation time ever taken by a president? It would be interesting to find out.
Aug 31st, 2003 09:13 AM
The One and Only... I'm a 15 year old and would probably be a better president than Bush. That's not saying much, though...
Aug 31st, 2003 01:53 AM
Perndog I didn't know you could be 19 years old and still be such a dipshit...though I guess we do need some of those folks who get blue-collar jobs from the fall after high school until retirement in order to hold up the social pyramid...
Aug 31st, 2003 01:40 AM
El Blanco The preceding message was brought to you by a total fucking moron.

I mean, aside from my belief that Clinton was probably the 3rd worst president ever (Buchanan and Grant beat him out), you just spout "Bush bad".

Why can't a 19-year old be president? Are you serious? Do you have any fucking clue as to what is involved with that position?
Aug 31st, 2003 12:12 AM
bluedisc
bush

i dont like bush. he is bad. we deserve better. who said it was okay for him to be president anyway? why can't i, a 19 year old be president? i bet i'd do a better job. i bet we all wish we had clinton back... i want my clinton!!! or gore to a lesser extent... i blame florida! you really had to f*ck it up florida!
Aug 28th, 2003 01:00 PM
mburbank Concidering the quality of his Presidenting, I think you may be onto something.
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