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May 14th, 2004 09:21 AM
KevinTheOmnivore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun
I was Conservative before I even heard of Rush Limbaugh, and I'll be Conservative long after he's dead and gone.
You're not a conservative.
May 13th, 2004 10:21 PM
Ronnie Raygun That's silly.

I don't really get to listen to Rush as often as I would like.....

I was Conservative before I even heard of Rush Limbaugh, and I'll be Conservative long after he's dead and gone.
May 13th, 2004 09:33 PM
sspadowsky You mean Rush's statements? Your statements are not your own, dear boy. You are an automaton.
May 13th, 2004 08:59 PM
Ronnie Raygun You should be paying attention to my entire statement.
May 13th, 2004 08:03 PM
sspadowsky You should be paying more attention to the second half of my statement.
May 13th, 2004 07:36 PM
Ronnie Raygun "There's a long way to go until November"

I've said that more than anybody here.....
May 13th, 2004 07:07 PM
sspadowsky There's a long way to go until November, Ronnie. Don't start polishing your jackboots just yet.
May 13th, 2004 06:14 PM
Ronnie Raygun That's o.k. Max.....you are a dying breed.
May 13th, 2004 02:05 PM
mburbank Us liberal lefties is like communis' an ant colonies. We just a homogenous lump wif ony the just one viewpoint amongst us, like a nes' a cockroaches or somesuch.
May 13th, 2004 10:02 AM
KevinTheOmnivore I think "coward" is appropriate. But let's not leave out "opportunist," "nitwit," "apparatchik," and "whiner." Those work as well.

Quote:
It's all bullshit if it conflicts with your agenda.
What the hell is "my agenda," you dolt? If you mean my point, I've already stated it. If you "conflict" with my point, then show me. Prove it.

Once again, my point is that you aren't truly interested in issues, nor do you really care about the well being of Americans. You aren't actually a conservative, you're a Republican. You support a party and its ambitions, not its ideas. I tried to start a thread dedicated to policy comparison, and yoú called it stupid. Your brain can't handle it. The only thing you can handle is what the Right-Wing tells you to handle.

And I'm fairly certain, that rather than responding to this with a viable argument, you will most certainly reply with "You know what you are Kevin, I ams what I ams, and nobody will need to know what nothing is never anyway," or some other semi-cryptic bull crap that allows you to avoid defending your positions. You say I'm worse now at expressing my opinions, well what the hell are you? Your opinion is what Newsmax wants it to be, and that's sad.

To quote a poet and a scholar: "The problem is, Conservatives put the guy in office and he's not promoting Conservative policies."

With that said, these things don't seem to bother you, Ronnie.
May 13th, 2004 04:14 AM
Dole Not too much mention really fucking weird, paranoid and desperate lately.
May 13th, 2004 03:59 AM
sspadowsky You're a coward, Ronnie.
May 12th, 2004 08:00 PM
Ronnie Raygun Yes. Yes.

It's all bullshit if it conflicts with your agenda.

And I posted that thread about my job situation for two reasons.

#1. Because I know it to be true.

#2. I wanted to see how many of you would use it as leverage against me.

And, everyone who has commented in fact has.

It reaffirms what I alreday know to be true about most of you.....and that's o.k. You are who you are.
May 12th, 2004 06:36 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Ronnie, YOU came hereand essentially politicized your job situation. You starteda thread blaming liberals and labor unions for jeopardizing your career. You are such a Republican, ideological hack, that you turned your own job insecurity into a plug for George W. Bush. After that, all jabs are fair game (it should also be noted that I've had meat heads like Vince take attacks at my job and my work ethic repeatedly, and I've taken it with a grain of salt and played along. I didn't think any less of Vince for it, at least not any less than I already had).

Back to the topic: You're whining that I don't make points with clarity, but then can't restate the point. ....?

Here's the point. I started a thread pertaining to real issues and policy. You don't like Iraq? We'll move on then. But you won't, because you'd rather post bullshit polls, bullshit proof of WMD, and other partisan shit from biased conservative mags, rather than have a real discussion about this stuff. Your arguments are juvenile, you don't care about the issues, all you care about is cheering for your favorite team-- the Republicans.
May 12th, 2004 05:08 PM
mburbank You know, you can say lot of things about Kevin, but when you call him a despicable person (and he's always been way more polite to you, than, say, I have) it just shows you're off the deep end. I mean, if Kev is your idea of despicable how the hell do you even measure most people?

Tell me your just messing around and I'll know he isn't right that you're in some sort of emotional, paranoiac distress.
May 12th, 2004 04:39 PM
Ronnie Raygun The fact you keep talking about my jobs situation in such a negative light only shows that you are a despicable person....which proves the point I made earlier.

All I'm saying is that you used to be better at proving your side of the issues.
May 12th, 2004 04:21 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun
We already know what Bush's stance is! He 's acting it out. He doesn't have to put it on paper....he's made it perfectly clear what is objectives are......
Fair enough. However, I think it would be good to see a policy-versus-policy comparison. I mean, if we didn't hold Bush to his words, then he could do just about anything in Iraq and claim success, right? And that'd be cRaZy!

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...and as I've said before, Kerry's words are meaningless so all you've done is wasted more time in an attempt to prove some stupid point.
You paste threads about two leftists in Portland who hate football players. You waste a LOT of time here for far lesser causes than this one. Let's use our powers for good now, ok? Copy and paste some substance, rather than partisan attacks, ok?

As for Kerry's record: In a way, you're right. A guy spends a few decades in Congress, and yeah, you'll have a whole record of compromising and political leverage moves to exploit (a 1.5 term governor from a state that invests more power actually in the Lt. Governor doesn't have such a problem).


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Kevin, you really used to be better than this. Honestly, ....you used to be able to prove some valid points but this is just ridiculous.
This doesn't even make sense. What "points"did I raise, let alone need to defend? Are you in the right thread? Is everything ok, Ronnie? Is thisDelta labor issue putting morestress on you?
May 12th, 2004 03:27 PM
ziggytrix MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
May 12th, 2004 03:23 PM
mburbank W's been on a lot of sides of a lot of issues too aand he's the one who says you can believe what he says.

Is he for capping CO2 emission or against it?
Both

Is he in favor of fully funding his own AIDS initiative or against it?
Both

Does he want a department of Homeland security or not?
Both

Does he want an investigation of 9/11 failures or not?
Both

Is there a connection between Al quaida and Saddam or not?
Both

Will Condi testify under oath or not?
Both

Will he testify alone or not?
Both

Will he testify for more than an hour or not?
Both

Is he in favor of fully funding no Child Left Behind or not?
Both

He's against stem cell research because it destroys embryos, but in favor of in vitro which destroys embryos.

Is the price of medicare reform $400 billion or $500 billion?
Both

Are the troops absolutely staying in Iraq only one year or not?
Both

Are we done asking for extra funfding of Iraq until after the election or not?
Both

Did we ever show up for Alabama guard duty or not?
Oooh, tough one.

And then there are all the issues he's dead solid on even though they are utterly contrary to reality!

Donald Rumsfeld is doing a greatjob, there are weapons of Mass Destruction, There's no scientiffic evidence of global warming, mission accomplished.

Presidential elections are almost always the lesser of two evils. Our electoral system doesn't allow for seriously good men to get anywhere near the whitehouse. Anyone who thinks anything else is begging to be taken advantage of.
May 12th, 2004 03:05 PM
Ronnie Raygun "I think this says a lot about you, Ronnie. I'm certainly not being "lazy," because unlike you, I actually took the time to look through Kerry's website and see his stance on the issues." - Kevin

We already know what Bush's stance is! He 's acting it out. He doesn't have to put it on paper....he's made it perfectly clear what is objectives are......

...and as I've said before, Kerry's words are meaningless so all you've done is wasted more time in an attempt to prove some stupid point.

Kevin, you really used to be better than this. Honestly, ....you used to be able to prove some valid points but this is just ridiculous.
May 12th, 2004 10:40 AM
KevinTheOmnivore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun
I didn't look.

I think this whole thread is stupid....just for the record.

What does it matter what Kerry has to say?
I think this says a lot about you, Ronnie. I'm certainly not being "lazy," because unlike you, I actually took the time to look through Kerry's website and see his stance on the issues. I'd love to see the same from Dubya, but in reference to Iraq, they simply didn't exist on his campaign site (but hey, thanks for the White House link, maybe that'll give us something).

You spend a lot of time cutting and pasting partisan opinion columns, which have an incredibly slanted take on things. I'm sure Max and I do the same thing. The one difference however is that you have shut your mind off to any kind of debate on, well, anything. You let Newsmax.com, front page mag, the Weekly Standard, and Rush Limbaugh decide what you think for you. That's fine for people like you and me, who are essentially decided voters. But I feel it's a dis-service to those on this board who may be undecided about the November election. I thought what we were doing might be educational, ya know, presenting both sides from the proverbial horse's mouth? But you'd rather post all-capped rants with misleading, partisan rhetoric. It makes Kevin sad.

Here's what I'll do: I'll look at the White House website, and do your job, ok? And maybe you'll jump in on the next topic....?

And for the record, this is our thread, bud.
May 12th, 2004 07:22 AM
Dole Ronnie, you are really starting to lose it big time. Whats going on??
May 12th, 2004 07:05 AM
glowbelly i answered yes and no to almost all of those statements up there, too.

yup. i mean nope. i mean yup nope.
May 11th, 2004 10:20 PM
Ronnie Raygun It is a slogan.

Slogans are for protesters.

www.protestwarrior.com
May 11th, 2004 10:10 PM
ziggytrix That makes a good slogan Ronnie. I bet you just looooooooooove slogans!
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