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Jul 8th, 2004 05:23 PM
kellychaos "Record" is short for recording whether it be vinyl, reel to reel, eight-track, cassete, cd, dvd, ect. The only reason it seems dated is because vinyl records were referred to as "records" ... i.e. because they were among the first recordings. It's more of a connotation thing than a pure definition thing, really.
Jul 8th, 2004 01:57 PM
sadie how very odd you must be.
Jul 8th, 2004 01:11 AM
Perndog Ahem. Record doesn't just mean vinyl. I'm only 20 and I say "put a record in" when referring to CDs.
Jul 8th, 2004 12:38 AM
sadie
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"When you put on a record and that record. . ."
can you say dated? i don't think blaming verbiage is any more appropriate than blaming THE MAN.
Jul 6th, 2004 09:09 AM
mburbank Bill Cosby doesn't own Black comedy any more than Woody Allen owns Jewish comedy. If the Cos (who's early stand up work ranks among my absolute favorite stuff) wants to package roll model and comedian as a bundel, fine. I think the two jobs are ill suited, but I wouldn't presume to judge that.

His political commentary is fine with me. But when he lords it over other comics, that's kingly and I think it's way out of line. It's mostly over now, but a few decades back there was a lot of talk in the entertainment community about which Jewish writers and comedians were 'good for the Jews'. Lenny Bruce, Phillip Roth and even Woody Allen and Mel Brooks got a fair helping of shit about it.

You want to fight the fight? If you're a comedian, do it with jokes. Chris Rock has a joke (I'm paraphrasing) "If a kid calls his Grandma 'mom' and his mom 'Pam', that kid is going to jail." I think that's painful, sharp, funny and to the point.

AND think Sykes' own work IS smart. But that's subjective.
Jul 5th, 2004 03:53 PM
FS UNCLE TOM UNCLE TOM UNCLE TOM
Jul 5th, 2004 03:02 PM
Royal Tenenbaum "I saw an award show recently where Wanda Sykes was hosting and she went to where Cosby was sitting. He wouldn't take off his sunglasses and he was ultra rude to her. As far as I can tell his entire bef with her is that she speaks in the vernacular and that's not good roll modelling for the black community.

Fuck that. She has an emmy for writting for Chris Rock and she's smart as hell. She's black and a woman and a huge success. Just cause she doesn't follow the Cosby game plan he's going to publicly disdain her? It's like he figures he somehow owns the black struggle and unless you struggle on his terms youre a bad influence. "

Maybe she got her emmy for calling people "******" and pretending to be stupid. Perhaps she is really smart, but when you protray yourself as an idiot, doing "ministrel show stuff," then except to have the Cosby hammer come down on you.
Jul 5th, 2004 12:33 PM
mburbank Hee-hee.

No, caucasians is actually white. We jews is flesh toned.
Jul 5th, 2004 12:13 PM
Triad-Brother Choi Jews are white now?
Jul 5th, 2004 10:59 AM
mburbank While I think Cosby has every right to say what he wants and I think there are nuggets of truth in his anger, (ie you can complain about the white man as long as you like but in the end it doesn't absolve you of having to try to take care of yourself) I also think there's a whole heaping helping of a rich guy who's been rich a long time now getting old and mean and arrogant.

I saw an award show recently where Wanda Sykes was hosting and she went to where Cosby was sitting. He wouldn't take off his sunglasses and he was ultra rude to her. As far as I can tell his entire bef with her is that she speaks in the vernacular and that's not good roll modelling for the black community.

Fuck that. She has an emmy for writting for Chris Rock and she's smart as hell. She's black and a woman and a huge success. Just cause she doesn't follow the Cosby game plan he's going to publicly disdain her? It's like he figures he somehow owns the black struggle and unless you struggle on his terms youre a bad influence.

That's my opinion as a rich middle class white jew unitarian.
Jul 3rd, 2004 01:57 PM
conus
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they offer no value to society and they live with no respect for life. everything to them is what they see on mtv and hear in rap songs
I'm confused. I thought the thread was about black Americans.
Jul 3rd, 2004 12:44 PM
Triad-Brother Choi Bill Cosby should be banned for his racism.
Jul 3rd, 2004 12:31 PM
GADZOOKS Every race is lazy, but the Coz was specifically addressing the blacks.
Jul 3rd, 2004 12:08 PM
Triad-Brother Choi So, all white folk are perfect?
Jul 3rd, 2004 12:02 PM
GADZOOKS Starsky and Hutch sucked worst.

And I agree with cosby, some black folk are just lazy.
Jul 3rd, 2004 10:15 AM
Zebra 3
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Originally Posted by kellychaos
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Originally Posted by spud
Quite a change from the sweater wearing funny man he used to be.
Actually, he was saying the same thing in a passive, indirect way on his show by giving the american public an example of a well-educated, successful african-american.
- His sitcom sucked even though it was top rated for three consecutive years.
Jul 3rd, 2004 09:39 AM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by spud
Quite a change from the sweater wearing funny man he used to be.
Actually, he was saying the same thing in a passive, indirect way on his show by giving the american public an example of a well-educated, successful african-american.
Jul 3rd, 2004 02:38 AM
Geggy i went to an armpit of a city, hartford, recently to attend a show. a friend who was driving got lost and we ended up in the most ghetto area imaginable. without being racist, these assholes sit around all day drinking, shouting and beating their dogs. the venue was the webster theatre, placed firmly in the ghetto. across the street, your typical ghetto inhabitants. loose women, thugged out busters, twenty children running around, all yelling. i do not cure cancer, but these people ARE the cancer. they offer no value to society and they live with no respect for life. everything to them is what they see on mtv and hear in rap songs. everything is 'money, drugs, alcohol, bitches, getting crazy fucked up.' this is all they know. they bleed the system dry. fucking scum.
Jul 3rd, 2004 12:19 AM
Perndog
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
I've heard part of why he is so pissed off is because he was accused of being a sellout for playing a successful black man who wasn't an athlete or singer.

I think its good that such a prominent black man is taking that section of the population to task, but is he actually going to do something about it, or just keep yelling at people?
Well the point of his yelling is that it's their responsibility to get their shit together, which means they're the ones that actually have to do something about it and all he's responsible for is lighting a fire under their collective ass.

At least that's how I read his rant.

I'm sure he's already got his money pointed in useful directions as far as all this goes anyway.
Jul 3rd, 2004 12:00 AM
Emu BRAIN TRASNFERENCE
Jul 2nd, 2004 11:20 PM
ScruU2wice My theory is that Strom Thurman switch bodies with cosby to preserve his soul
Jul 2nd, 2004 10:23 PM
El Blanco I've heard part of why he is so pissed off is because he was accused of being a sellout for playing a successful black man who wasn't an athlete or singer.

I think its good that such a prominent black man is taking that section of the population to task, but is he actually going to do something about it, or just keep yelling at people?
Jul 2nd, 2004 08:55 PM
Matt Harty Yeah because everyone on tv has the same personality in real life.
Jul 2nd, 2004 08:55 PM
spud Quite a change from the sweater wearing funny man he used to be.
Jul 2nd, 2004 08:36 PM
FartinMowler He bin hypnotized by the white man
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