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Aug 14th, 2004 11:13 AM
kellychaos The way the present system is set up, though, we are presented with the representatives from the two major parties which 99% of americans never had a chance in selecting. Sure, you have the primaries but those are a joke too. Who did the original selections for the parties? In the end, what you are left with is the fact that in saying you are not going to vote for "so and so", you are, in reality, voting for the other major party because the other peripheral parties are basically a waste of your vote. What you're left with , in the end, is to vote for the party which shares your ideals no matter what stooge they put in there.
Aug 14th, 2004 01:39 AM
Helm Hello conus. Stay a while, and post.
Aug 13th, 2004 03:16 PM
AChimp And THAT is the best way to vote.
Aug 13th, 2004 03:13 PM
conus
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In the end, it's all the same, though, considering the huge advantage of the two major parties.
For me to admit this is tough, but I think I'm now among the ranks of those who learned that there reallyis a slight difference between the two parties. I tried to deny it. I kept wanting to believe that the Democrats would eventually have done the same thing, that both parties were comprised for the most part by politicians who simply operated out of functionalist perspectives and lied to the fringes of their constituancies about what they might or might not do. I wanted to believe that because it seemed so much less insane than what appears to have happened. Live and learn. Don't get me wrong. I won't be inviting any Democrats home to dinner, but I will vote for one to get rid of a president who, if not for his social position, would probably be getting his psychotropic drugs from a county-funded facility.
Aug 13th, 2004 11:55 AM
kellychaos I'm not sure that the swift boat guys really have an agenda that's for Bush so much. It seems like more of an "anybody BUT Kerry" agenda, if that makes sense. In the end, it's all the same, though, considering the huge advantage of the two major parties.
Aug 13th, 2004 12:46 AM
Helm Hello, conus. Stay around for a while and post.
Aug 13th, 2004 12:10 AM
conus
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Two words: Cambodia. Christmas.

Bush is gonna win. Sorry.
Yeah, I've been reading about that. It doesn't look good at all. But this is just one more reason for the Democrats to go on the attack and use everything available. "Embellishing" is not a felony. Cocaine use is. Or, if not cocaine, then something else. As long as it distracts a few nitwits from the swift boat story. Like Lyndon Johnston once said, "I don't care if the son-of-a-bitch did it or not. Just get him to deny it."
Aug 12th, 2004 10:50 PM
Preechr
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Originally Posted by Jeanette X
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Originally Posted by kellychaos
It seems that "Swift Boats Against Kerry" has done the most damage against Bush in their ironic attempt to aid him in their independent campaign message. Bush's points have been at his lowest in a while since the group was forced to remove their message from the air.
I didn't hear about this. Why did it need to be removed?
Ummm... It didn't?

Some lawyers sent some letters to some networks basically threatening illegal lawsuits if the networks followed the law and abided by some contracts they'd signed. Funny, really... especially considering the Swift Boat guys are one of the only unincorporated entities involved in this election (read: they can actually be sued for libel in a way that matters, unlike even MoveOn.org or the Bush campaign.)

Two words: Cambodia. Christmas.

Bush is gonna win. Sorry.
Aug 12th, 2004 10:27 PM
ThisIsWitty
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Originally Posted by ScruU2wice
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You can tell Bush made that video. Only he would be smart enough to attack himself.
Bill Clinton was on the Daily Show and he took shots at himself for not going to war like Cheney and Bush. and he's a Rhode Scholar..
He wasn't trying to get re-elected.
Aug 12th, 2004 10:24 PM
Jeanette X
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Originally Posted by kellychaos
It seems that "Swift Boats Against Kerry" has done the most damage against Bush in their ironic attempt to aid him in their independent campaign message. Bush's points have been at his lowest in a while since the group was forced to remove their message from the air.
I didn't hear about this. Why did it need to be removed?
Aug 12th, 2004 04:42 PM
kellychaos It seems that "Swift Boats Against Kerry" has done the most damage against Bush in their ironic attempt to aid him in their independent campaign message. Bush's points have been at his lowest in a while since the group was forced to remove their message from the air.
Aug 12th, 2004 01:04 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by ThisIsWitty
You can tell Bush made that video. Only he would be smart enough to attack himself.
Bill Clinton was on the Daily Show and he took shots at himself for not going to war like Cheney and Bush. and he's a Rhode Scholar..
Aug 12th, 2004 12:42 PM
eggyolk If it weren't for the last 3 seconds, you would think this is an Anti-Bush ad.
Aug 6th, 2004 05:45 AM
Captain Goodtimes i going to have nightmares about al gore now.
Aug 5th, 2004 11:53 PM
ThisIsWitty You can tell Bush made that video. Only he would be smart enough to attack himself.
Aug 5th, 2004 02:50 PM
ScruU2wice It's probably for tax evasion purposes
Aug 5th, 2004 10:28 AM
AChimp Bush & Cheney, Inc?
Aug 5th, 2004 01:46 AM
Anonymous that was hilarious :<
Aug 5th, 2004 12:59 AM
Matt Harty is it me or did bush kinda kick his own ass with that
Aug 5th, 2004 12:56 AM
Jim Duncan - Weather John Kerry said ass! He's gonna have his mouth washed out with soap!
Aug 4th, 2004 02:34 PM
Bobo Adobo
Aug 4th, 2004 01:52 PM
pjalne
HAHAHAHA

Best campaign video ever

http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Mult...spx?ID=901&T=2

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