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Sep 29th, 2004 08:08 AM
davinxtk Wow, I butchered the word antagonist.
Sep 29th, 2004 08:02 AM
davinxtk Who says that they actually have to have him captured to be able to produce him in a matter of weeks?
I mean, I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but haven't any of you played the latest Splinter Cell game?
Okay, okay, I know it's only a video game, but it's a very realistic video game that deals with the kinds of operations and issues going on in the world today.
The part that I'm at (which reminds me, I haven't picked up the damn thing since mid-July) details an operation involving a terrorist camp completley surrounded by our troops. The main antagnost (who's sort of a Guevera-type, god I wish I could come up with a photography joke at this hour) walks calmly and coolly around his encampment. He doesn't hide his head, and he doesn't take any extraneous personal security efforts.
Why?
Because he knows the troops have orders not to kill him. He knows that he's far more valuable to the US alive, and that making him a martyr makes him thousands of times more dangerous than a living man. "Bullets can't find me." is the direct quote.
Who's to say that we don't have bin Laden cornered in a cave?
I'd be willing to bet money that we've got him and a bunch of his goons surrounded, 100% blocked off without any way to escape. The troops have orders to sit on the camp. They don't know who's inside, they just know they're not supposed to let anyone come out.
Osama himself? Probably knows that he's surrounded. Very likely scared completely out of his wits that he's going to catch a bullet, so even though he knows we're surrounding him, he's not going to push his head up long enough to try and make an escape attempt.
Someone's biding their time and waiting to capture him.

However, the significance of his capture can be weighed in either direction.

Let's say they do snag him before the election. Kerry could jump into a press conference and say "Hey, wait. Mission accomplished. So who needs this fuckbag signing another Patriot Act?"
As long as he's still at large, Bush can still make the point that we've got work to do.
I don't expect a bearded Afghani to be pulled out of a hole in the desert before November, but it's certainly possible, and I don't think anyone can really hazard a guess as to how the American public would react.

The right wing will blow their horns, celebrate, and Cheney will have a massive coronoary.
The thing is, at this point, we're not looking for the most dangerous man in the world. Al Qaeda isn't even the biggest terrorist threat anymore.
Remember how worn-out and pathetic Saddam looked when we pulled him out of his hole? I'm expecting Osama to be in worse condition. And the Bush camp will still have a massive turgid penis to swing around.
Sep 28th, 2004 04:34 PM
conus Yeah, you really have to search for Iraq news. American deaths are rarely given much front-page coverage.
Sep 28th, 2004 04:30 PM
kellychaos Afghanistan has seemed to have been conveniently pushed to the back of the papers. As a matter of fact, we really aren't getting the in-depth "embedded" news in Iraq so much lately, either. I mean, unless you really take it upon yourself to look and, quite frankly, sometimes I'm lazy.
Sep 28th, 2004 02:54 PM
Preechr BRILLIANT!!!
Sep 28th, 2004 02:44 PM
AChimp Replace the file with a smaller image, maybe.
Sep 28th, 2004 01:39 PM
Preechr WELL CRAP I THOUGHT I COULD FIX IT MYSELF BY DELETING IT FROM MY SITE BUT THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO WORK.
Sep 28th, 2004 01:24 PM
Preechr CAN A MOD PLEASE DELETE MY ABOVE POST SINCE I CANNOT DO IT MYSELF AND THAT PIC CAME OUT WAY BIGGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD AND IT'S SCREWING UP THE THREAD AND IT JUST WASN'T THAT FUNNY ANYWAYS THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
Sep 28th, 2004 12:49 PM
FS Maybe I'm being naive, but I just don't believe they could keep a thing like Bin Laden's capture from immediately leaking. At the very least, I think there'd be big coverage of serious rumors while the administration downplays it as false.
Sep 28th, 2004 11:30 AM
mburbank See, that's what I'm saying about Hitch having gone off the deep end. I personally don't think we do have Bin Laden, but it's hardly what you'd call unthinkable, and it in no way requires collusion with him.

I wasn't a Hitchens fan when he was a lefty, he had the same self agrandizing style, but it was rar that he seemed so... out of his mind back then.
Sep 28th, 2004 11:19 AM
El Blanco The wierd part is, I've been saying it since last summer.

We got the bastard, the troops there are just gutting the rest of his organization. Team Bush is just going to unviel him in another 2 weeks or so to put the nail in Kerry's coffin.
Sep 28th, 2004 10:38 AM
mburbank "The ketchup lady implied that he was already locked down and that they were going to "capture" him just prior to the election."

Go read Christopher Hitchins latest flip out at slate. He seems to think that
A.) Such a thing is absolutely beyond the possible behaviors of this administration.
B.) It would require active collusion between Bin Laden and th Bush camp (though he in no way suppports this contention)
C.) This statement is such a beyond awful thing to say (as opposed to saying we'd be attacked by terrorists if Kerry wins or that Al Quaeda actively wants Kerry to win) that the Deomcratic party and Kerry himself should repudiate the statement.

If this former lefty drifts right any faster he'll blow Dennis Miller's doors off and go straight past Hitler to Ming the Merciless.
Sep 28th, 2004 09:50 AM
Preechr Matt Drudge follows me around the internet.

I'm sure of it...

Sep 27th, 2004 11:22 PM
Miss Modular Is there really any "French look"?
Sep 27th, 2004 11:07 PM
conus
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WHY IS HE ALWAYS SO ORANGE?!?!
It's becase he's French.
Sep 27th, 2004 10:30 PM
davinxtk
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Originally Posted by Preechr
WHY IS HE ALWAYS SO ORANGE?!?!
Would you rather elect a corpse or a jack-o-lantern?
Sep 27th, 2004 05:08 PM
kellychaos
Sep 27th, 2004 04:47 PM
Preechr WHY IS HE ALWAYS SO ORANGE?!?!
Sep 27th, 2004 04:38 PM
conus
Sep 27th, 2004 04:30 PM
kellychaos :baglady
Sep 27th, 2004 04:16 PM
Preechr
Sep 27th, 2004 04:15 PM
FS Bin Whatnow? I'm sorry, it doesn't ring a bell. Was he involved in Saddam Hussein's 9/11 attack?
Sep 27th, 2004 04:11 PM
kellychaos The ketchup lady implied that he was already locked down and that they were going to "capture" him just prior to the election.
Sep 27th, 2004 04:01 PM
mburbank
NOOSE FOUND TIGHTENING IN WRONG COUNTRY!!!

Bin Laden 'alive and in Pakistan'

(CNN) -- Intelligence indicates Osama bin Laden is alive, Pakistan's president says, and the top U.S. military official in Afghanistan believes the al Qaeda leader is probably in Pakistan.

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