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Feb 28th, 2005 11:06 AM
sspadowsky
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buttfucks, do you have AIM? if you were online, I'd rant about China until your asshole bled.
It's true. He ruined my pants.
Feb 27th, 2005 07:52 AM
Zhukov
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It's strange, Chavez has openly said that he is a marxist and the revolution is socialist, but only to other comrades. I guess cnn wasn't listening.

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Opponents of the Venezuelan leader, whom Chavez dismisses as puppets of the United States, accuse him of ruling like a dictator and dragging the country toward Cuba-style communism.
fuckheads don't want to even think that when the revolution is over, Venezuela will be about a thousand times more "communistic" than Cuba.
Feb 26th, 2005 02:21 AM
ItalianStereotype I don't think we're going to see much more oil out of Venezuela, but the Chinese will. ask Sspad or Ninja, I've been through this a bit.

if we lose Venezuela, we still have Kuwait, the Saudis, and potentially, a stable Iraq to rely on for oil in the future. I think the Russians will want to cooperate more with us as the Chinese begin to lean more heavily on their Eastern borders, but Iran may well be lost to us.

buttfucks, do you have AIM? if you were online, I'd rant about China until your asshole bled.
Feb 26th, 2005 01:54 AM
KevinTheOmnivore Bump motherfuckers.

The reason I posted this is because I was wondering if this might increase tensions between us and Chavez.

Oil is already pretty much dominated by the state, but do any of you think this could lead to a Nasser-like move, where he might cut us off completely....?

They need to sell their oil, it accounts for roughly 1/3 of their GDP. But they could easily find others interested in that (China, N. Korea, etc.).

If that happens, well, uhhh, what happens?
Feb 25th, 2005 07:58 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
Chavez officially embraces Socialism

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americ...eut/index.html

Defying U.S., Venezuela's Chavez embraces socialism

Friday, February 25, 2005 Posted: 4:12 PM EST (2112 GMT)

CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Friday embraced socialism as his ideology of choice in a political statement that sharpened his antagonism against the United States.

Chavez, a firebrand nationalist who has governed the world's No. 5 oil exporter for six years, has persistently declined to define the precise ideology of his self-styled "revolution."

But, addressing an international meeting on poverty in Caracas, he said Western-style capitalism was incapable of solving global economic and social problems.

"So, if not capitalism, then what? I have no doubt, it's socialism," said Chavez, who also rebuffed U.S. criticism of his left-wing rule in Venezuela and denounced U.S. President George W. Bush as the "great destabilizer of the world."

Since coming to power, he has irritated Washington by developing alliances with China, Russia and Iran and flaunting a close personal friendship with Cuba's Communist President Fidel Castro, a longtime foe of the United States.

Chavez's public support for socialism recalled Castro's defining announcement in the early 1960s that his 1959 Cuban Revolution was "socialist."

Chavez said he had up to now avoided labeling his political program in Venezuela as "socialist."

But he added his personal experience in power, which included surviving a brief coup in 2002, had convinced him that socialism was the answer. "But what kind?"

Chavez, who won a referendum in August ratifying his rule until early 2007, said previous experiences of socialism in the world -- an apparent reference to the former Soviet Union -- might not be the example to follow.

"We have to invent the socialism of the 21st century," he added.

Venezuela's 1999 constitution promoted by Chavez enshrines a multi-party political system and he has denied he is a communist. But he has intensified state intervention in the economy, encouraged the formation of cooperatives and is pursuing land reforms critics say threaten private property.

Chavez resumed his aggressive stance just a day after his vice president, Jose Vicente Rangel, called for talks with the United States and said Caracas was ready to help fight terrorism and drug-trafficking and keep oil flowing to the United States.

But Rangel had also echoed Chavez's anti-U.S. criticisms, and U.S. diplomats here complain their requests for meetings with government ministers are turned down.

Who is destabilizing?
While Venezuela remains a key oil supplier to the United States, Chavez has this year stepped up a war of words with the United States. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has called him a "destabilizing influence" in Latin America.

A former paratroop officer, Chavez was first elected in a 1998 election, six years after leading a botched coup bid.

Opponents of the Venezuelan leader, whom Chavez dismisses as puppets of the United States, accuse him of ruling like a dictator and dragging the country toward Cuba-style communism.

In what Caracas calls "impertinent" meddling, U.S. officials are also opposing Venezuela's purchase of Russian helicopters and automatic rifles for its armed forces.

"The only destabilizer here is George W. Bush, he's the big destabilizer in the world, he's the threat," Chavez said. He has condemned the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Chavez also repeated charges that the increased U.S. criticism was preparing the ground for an attack against Venezuela and included a plan to assassinate him. U.S. officials have rejected this as "ridiculous."

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