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Mar 30th, 2003 06:44 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Considering how many people vote to begin with, that 8% for Nader is low.
Considering it comes from a high % of young people, a demographic that traditionally doesn't even vote, it's in fact quite high, using your logic.

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Besides, you have to put it in context:

How many people vote for someone else besides Republicans or Democrats not because of what they agree with, but just because it is different?
So? How many people vote simply along Party lines? How many people vote for a Democrat, simply because they don't like the Republican, and vice versa??

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How many people truly know what the Green party is about? It is just like any one other of those one agenda parties, like the Leaglize Marijuana party, the Pro-Life Party, etc?
No, it's not, but you do raise a valid point. The fact that it calls itself "Green" hinders it at times. It more so resembles a European labor party, more than a weed party. Granted, decriminalization is an issue, but it's only one of several.
Mar 30th, 2003 06:39 PM
VinceZeb Considering how many people vote to begin with, that 8% for Nader is low. Besides, you have to put it in context:

How many people vote for someone else besides Republicans or Democrats not because of what they agree with, but just because it is different?

How many people truly know what the Green party is about? It is just like any one other of those one agenda parties, like the Leaglize Marijuana party, the Pro-Life Party, etc?
Mar 30th, 2003 06:28 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Chojin's point is right on, and Ronnie can't comprehend it, so it must be "apples and oranges."

Ronnie espouses that we live in a one person, one vote society, and all is fair. Yet when 8% vote for Nader, he finds it insignificent. I guess they should all be voting Democrat. Hmmm, but the Democrats are all liars, too, so then I guess they should be voting Republican....hmmm....

It sounds to me like Ronnie would do just fine in a theocratic politburo type of government.
Mar 28th, 2003 08:33 AM
Ronnie Raygun LAST WORD UP!
Mar 27th, 2003 01:07 PM
Anonymous LAST WORD






LAST WORD
Mar 27th, 2003 12:10 PM
Ronnie Raygun Neither,

One is usually red...sometimes green....and the other....well, .....ORANGE!
Mar 27th, 2003 12:07 PM
Anonymous Which one is the black one?
Mar 27th, 2003 12:00 PM
Ronnie Raygun No.

But there are apples and oranges.
Mar 27th, 2003 11:59 AM
Anonymous What? There are different shades of black and white now?
Mar 27th, 2003 11:56 AM
Ronnie Raygun A political opinion is much different form life/death.

Understand? Or is this too complex?
Mar 27th, 2003 11:26 AM
Anonymous If you don't have anything useful to add, keep on doing what you're doing.
Mar 27th, 2003 11:19 AM
VinceZeb What the hell are you talking about?
Mar 27th, 2003 10:56 AM
Anonymous Did you know that the people killed on 9/11 were like, totally way less than 1% of the total US population?

Time to not care about them either. Which is good, 'cause my little war horse is starting to give me wicked bow-leg.
Mar 27th, 2003 09:27 AM
Ronnie Raygun Go NADER!!!

Keep getting your 7 or 8%.
Mar 27th, 2003 07:39 AM
VinceZeb Browne has half a brain until you metion drugs to him. Then after that he goes freakin nuts. Libertarians need to quit turning psycho everytime someone metions drug laws. I'm talking the libertarians with common sence. Like Neil Boortz. If he ends up running after he gets out of radio, I would vote for him in an instant.

http://www.boortz.com - Go to the Church. You may just learn something.....
Mar 27th, 2003 02:49 AM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Nader is a pretty decent consumer avocate. He has no brains when it comes to politics of a nation. He is overstepping his boundries and that is why he didn't get crap for votes.
Much of his consumer advocacy goes hand-in-hand with his platform he held. What would you say he is/was particularly off about? Anything specific?


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If people want to be cool and vote for someone that is outside the box, vote for the Libertarians.
Yeah, cuz Harry Browne is such a hipster.
Mar 25th, 2003 01:47 AM
VinceZeb He got republican votes from what polls and studies suggest.

Bush 41 was screwed, starting when Pat "Blame the Jews" Buchanan decided to run against an incumbent president of his OWN party!
Mar 25th, 2003 01:45 AM
Skulhedface Perot was a threat? I thought he got less than 1% of the vote.
Mar 25th, 2003 01:12 AM
VinceZeb Economy and the Rock The Vote campaign killed him. The human hand grenade didn’t help much either (Perot). No matter how good national security is, if the economy is in the shitter, the standing president is screwed.

Besides, who are the democrats going to run? Besides Sharpton, all the candidates are seen by the majority of the public as being not presidential material, especially "I consulted my special friend" Gephardt from my state of Missouri. I do hope Sharpton runs and pulls votes in the primaries. Then the liberals will have to put up or shut up with their "We love blacks (especially their votes) long time" stance.
Mar 25th, 2003 01:07 AM
Skulhedface Well, you've got to look at the statistics.

As of now, Bush's approval rating is roughly 66%.
In November 2000, only 50% of all eligible voters even bothered showing up for the polls.

The longer this war drags on, inevitably Bush's approval ratings will start to plummet. I'll fashion a guess at 50%.

Well, if 50% of voters show up next time, as last time, and only 50% of that 50% were Bush voters, I just don't see Bush winning again.

Besides, wasn't Bush Sr.'s approval rating at 90% or so during the first round of the Gulf War? And did HE get reelected?
Mar 25th, 2003 12:59 AM
VinceZeb You bring up the voter turn out, and it needs to be addressed. We need a non-partisan group to try to educate people to get out in vote. Rock the Vote was a Clinton vehicle (Chris Cornell of Soundgarden/Audioslave admitted this during an MTV interview for a special) and unfortunately this war will cause people to blindly vote Republican. I honestly blame the govt schools and society for making the new voting bloc a bunch of mealy-mouth idiots who don't care about what is going on.
Mar 25th, 2003 12:53 AM
Skulhedface Actually, it's my understanding that he didn't get crap for votes because his campaign wasn't as well-funded as the major two parties and that most people are already so mistrustful of politics and politicians in general that they knowingly vote just for the lesser of the two big evils.

Also, let's not forget that roughly 50% of all registered voters even bothered to show up to vote in the first place. That's SO much better.
Mar 25th, 2003 12:48 AM
VinceZeb Nader is a pretty decent consumer avocate. He has no brains when it comes to politics of a nation. He is overstepping his boundries and that is why he didn't get crap for votes. If people want to be cool and vote for someone that is outside the box, vote for the Libertarians.
Mar 25th, 2003 12:44 AM
KevinTheOmnivore He holds no respect for Nader, yet tells him to remain a consumer advocate. I wonder why....
Mar 24th, 2003 01:48 PM
mburbank So when are you going to respond?

Or was that the responce?
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