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| Jul 1st, 2005 01:24 AM | |||||||||
| sadie | there's nothing as horrible as the bride's toes. was that one or two? | ||||||||
| Jun 30th, 2005 11:22 PM | |||||||||
| Chojin |
That's true, but the very fabric of reality is based on context, so I don't understand what you're getting at. If you took the phrase "The only safe path is to hate everything" out of context, you'd think you were reading a Hot Topic bumper sticker. But, uh, so what? |
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| Jun 30th, 2005 03:00 PM | |||||||||
| ziggytrix |
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| Jun 30th, 2005 06:35 AM | |||||||||
| Supafly345 | You mean... it wasn't a comedy? | ||||||||
| Jun 30th, 2005 01:37 AM | |||||||||
| Chojin |
Actually, allow me to expound on that. I've heard a similiar argument from anyone that defends a Tarantino film - How It's MEANT to be cheesy, it's MEANT to be senselessly violent/stupid as a homage to pulp comics/gangster movies/80s sitcoms/Home alone/Japanese samurai films. So: 1. Has Tarantino done ANYTHING that is not a homage or something or another? 2. Has Tarantino done ANYTHING that is allowed to be criticized because it isn't following someone else's stupid idea? 3. Does a person's intent really weigh in on whether or not a piece of shit is a piece of shit? I like Tarantino films, but the guy is a total jackass, and his hardcore fans all use the same excuses to dismiss his shortcomings. |
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| Jun 30th, 2005 01:34 AM | |||||||||
| DJ Potatoe |
I raraley post so quickly after posting something like that but I saw something very important and had to point it out. El Blanco is queer. |
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| Jun 30th, 2005 01:31 AM | |||||||||
| Chojin |
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I agree with James, but the best part of this thread is Blanco pouring his heart out to us. LET IT FLOW, NANCY BOY ;_; |
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| Jun 30th, 2005 01:31 AM | |||||||||
| DJ Potatoe | This movie sucked ass. I love to agree with james when he's wrong as a joke, but seriously..he's totally right here. I even wrote a slammin' good funk song about how fuckin' stupid Quentin tarantino is. And it's true to boot. James...get it? | ||||||||
| Jun 29th, 2005 10:07 PM | |||||||||
| Supafly345 | These movies are a satire I hope you know. Like Flash Gordon. | ||||||||
| Jun 29th, 2005 12:20 PM | |||||||||
| ABSeNCe | Vol. 1 definitely had more violence than plot, but that was the main attraction for general audiences. Think of the first film as an introduction to the films. It draws in the audience, but at the same time leaves them in the dark about a lot. Then once you get to volume 2, it becomes a much greater film with the substance and plot that you faggots won't stop bitching about | ||||||||
| Jun 11th, 2005 02:20 AM | |||||||||
| Bell E. Laffs |
I likethe fact it was just a movie, and when it was over I could state my opinion on wheater i liked it or not and not go into character analysis. 
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| Jun 11th, 2005 02:08 AM | |||||||||
| James |
Jesus Christ. I'm not saying it was bad that I knew how the film would end. I'm saying that the movie didn't keep me interested in seeing how it would end. I wasn't "pumped up" to see the endgame, because I didn't care about her revenge at all. And aside from the horrible out-of-place part with Esteban, and the convenient plot points (which are a seemingly deliberate homage to the films this movie is based on, so I forgive that), I felt Vol. 2 was just a much better film. The characters were better fleshed out, and the story actually seemed to take the foreground. Vol. 1 was less about plot, and more about violence and action. Which again, I know is an homage to the films the movie was made for, but that doesn't mean I HAVE to like it. Vol. 2 just had more substance, making it feel more modern and well-done. And I don't even know where to begin with "Because she doesn't perfectly line up with your pure of heart, virginal white vanilla idea of what a hero should be?" bullshit you're pulling out. So I'll just call you an idiot and go to bed. |
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| Jun 11th, 2005 01:10 AM | |||||||||
| El Blanco |
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Vernita Green and Buddy left? They reformed? THAT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T BUY YOU A TICKET OUT! Quote:
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| Jun 10th, 2005 05:52 PM | |||||||||
| Ninjavenom | For once i actually completely agree with you there, jimmy-boy. She was about as 2-d as they get, but like you said, that doesn't make the movies less fun. | ||||||||
| Jun 10th, 2005 05:19 PM | |||||||||
| James |
I'm just saying, there is no reason to care about the character She's not sympathetic at all (once you find out who she was and what she did). And in a movie about revenge, you should at least care if she actually gets that revenge, but I didn't. It was a foretold conclusion that she would get it, but you don't give a shit. You're not watching the movies, waiting for the moment she actually kills Bill. You're just watching for the OMG VIOLENCE~! and Tarantino's quirky sense of direction and writing. I cared more about her enemies than I did about her, and seeing them die or left to die just made me hate her more. But she was painted in the light of a vengeful hero, which she's not. If the story was about her being the villain of the films, it'd have made more sense. But no, we get Mommy Hero Cunt, who has a hissyfit and has to kill everyone for her own mistakes.  I liked the films (the second a lot more than the first) for what they were, but The Bride is still a character that is very poorly done. |
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| Jun 10th, 2005 10:25 AM | |||||||||
| El Blanco |
Did the Bride ever make herself out to be moral or good or anything? No. Not once. She never said anything about some type of morality you are bitching about. And besides, not only did they almost kill her, it was obvious they were going to try and finish the job. Why was it wrong to kill Vernita Green? Because she had a child? That didn't stop her from almost killing the Bride. Besides, the Bride made it clear she wasn't going to go after the girl. It was a revenge tale. Plain and simple. |
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| Jun 10th, 2005 08:53 AM | |||||||||
| Mockery |
Uh hello? "I'm a bad person..." "No you're not... you're my favorite person. But sometimes you can be a real cunt..." |
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| Jun 10th, 2005 12:06 AM | |||||||||
| eggyolk | ill let it slide this time but next time you are mine | ||||||||
| Jun 9th, 2005 10:11 PM | |||||||||
| Yggdrasill |
Thanks for pointing that out, I was in denial. Which Japanese chicks, The 5,6,7,8's? Every movie with Japanese people in it makes me fear them. Why are they so powerful and athletic? No offense to any ninja's on the forum of course, so keep that beheading to yourself please, I want to live! |
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| Jun 9th, 2005 08:50 PM | |||||||||
| headasplodeslol | Id just like to point out that kill bill is the worst movie ever made. but those japanese chicks are hot | ||||||||
| Jun 9th, 2005 08:05 AM | |||||||||
| thebiggameover |
i dare you to say that to the brides face james! but really she thought her kid was dead. right up to the end. and she didnt wnat the kid to grow up in that kinda place. she did what ever bill wanted and didnt give a fuck till she got knocked up. then she had something to give a fuck about. and then bill and the others took that away from her. she just wanted pay back. and im sure she would expect the same thing if she was the one doing the baby killing. i dont think she would have bitched that they "didnt deserve it"... |
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| Jun 9th, 2005 01:28 AM | |||||||||
| ziggytrix | Though I agree with the rest of your assessment, how is she not an antihero? | ||||||||
| Jun 8th, 2005 11:23 PM | |||||||||
| N00bKill3R |
I understand where you're coming from James, she probably deserved her revenge against Bill but the others... I mean they were just doing their job, the same job that she did. If Bill had been with one of the other girls instead of Beatrix, she would have went through the assasination with no problem... shes just a bitch with big ugly feet 
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| Jun 8th, 2005 11:09 PM | |||||||||
| xenosoul | The bride deserved her revenge period. At that time she also thought that they killed her baby. | ||||||||
| Jun 8th, 2005 10:10 PM | |||||||||
| James |
The Bride showed up at her house with the intent of fighting and killing her. Her daughter showed up, so they stopped. Then they set up a time and place to fight to the death. Vernita pulled a gun on her in defense of her life and her daughter's. Perfectly valid on her part. And no, she didn't kill Elle. But she did leave her for dead. And she didn't kill Budd either, but she had all intentions of killing him. She's just a bitch.
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