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Feb 21st, 2006 10:50 PM
ScruU2wice Pharaoh has demonstrated enough that he's not a fan of abortion enough to make it funny to me.

I think it was the "population control jokes" file cabinet I pulled that out from.
Feb 21st, 2006 10:15 PM
Kulturkampf
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Originally Posted by ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
I don't support any political party at the moment but the only solution I can see is to stop Muslim immigration into Europe and encourage non-Muslims to have more children by supporting families.
LOL

Don't you think that it would just be easier to kill muslim babies?
Great tactic:

"Since I disagree with his views, I make no effort to find out what they are but rather I am just going to accuse him of wanting to murder kids."

Go and keep making terrible allusions because that is your MODUS OPERANDI of IGNORANCE.
Feb 21st, 2006 08:37 PM
Abcdxxxx If that doesn't smack of multiculturalism, then I don't know what does. It's the "Eveyone Poops" approach to political discourse. Sorry they forgot to include the extra couple pages that say "but not everyone does it in their living room".

Kevin's right. A minority out of of 2 billion Muslims is probably still larger then then the total number of Jews, Sihks, Shintos, Neo-Pagans, Scientologist, and Buddhists combined.

There was also a time when liberal-humanist-multiculturalist whatever you want to call them would argue that the Palestinian desire for extremism could only be attributed to a minority few, but with Hamas elected, we now know for certain, that isn't true.
Feb 21st, 2006 04:27 PM
Immortal Goat I'm not saying they aren't embracing multiculturalism. I am saying that it seems like that is what the article is saying. Since that is what Pharaoh asked about the article, that is what I commented on.

And isn't it the same with Christianity, too? They want everyone to follow the same rules, too. That's just how the major religions work.
Feb 21st, 2006 09:56 AM
KevinTheOmnivore
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And it seemed to me that the problem isn't so much that Muslims are invading your country. It is that your country has it's head too far up it's ass to embrace multiculturalism.
I'm sorry, but this is just nonsense. To say that England is somehow lacking in "multiculturalism" as compared to other nations seems sort of silly to me.

Tolerance and submission are two different things. We should tolerate muslim culture in the West. We should tolerate their habits, their diet, and their customs. That's fine and good. But why does ANYBODY have to worry about getting hurt or even killed if they take jabs at Islam? This seems very cut and dry, yet somehow our multiculturally programed brains are complicating the matter.

Muslims should protest peacefully, they should boycott Danish products, they should publicly mock the Danes, and they should write angry letters. That's all great. But there is absolutely NO excuse (nope, not poverty, not boredom, not youthful indiscretion, none of it) for mobs to burn embassy buildings and to kill people. No dice.

And you can say that this is a tiny minority, and that the West is exploiting the matter. Okay, that's fair. The media smells blood.

70,000 people protested just six days ago in Peshawar, Pakistan. 70,000 people, one day, in one place. An 8-year-old boy was killed. This is not simply some easily dismissed minority, this is an endemic problem.
Feb 21st, 2006 09:42 AM
Pharaoh
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Originally Posted by Immortal Goat
I think he's talking about how the bird flu was supposed to wipe out a lot of the population.

Oh, and yes, Phaoroh, I did read the article. And it seemed to me that the problem isn't so much that Muslims are invading your country. It is that your country has it's head too far up it's ass to embrace multiculturalism. And since you are so against other cultures, it also has occured to me that my comment about people like you being the cause of the world's problems is all the more valid because of it.
The article isn't about my country, it's about Australia. You see you're still only commenting on what I've written, you're not writing what you think of the article at all. And you know nothing about England anyway. England has embraced multiculturalism, if you ever visit London you'll see what I mean. Muslims, however, don't embrace multiculturalism, they want everybody to submit to Islam, and that's the problem.
Feb 20th, 2006 08:46 PM
Abcdxxxx Isn't bird flu supposed to run rampant through China and Mid-East?

They say they found some of it in Egypt yesterday. As a side note, Syria is having an HIV crisis already, and they're trying to get some flu vaccine from the UN because they don't have relations with the main supplier.

I don't know if this disease stuff originates from some devious test tube, or what, but in the case of the Mid-East, they have defianetly resisted prevention methods, or addressing the problems.
Feb 20th, 2006 03:06 PM
Immortal Goat I think he's talking about how the bird flu was supposed to wipe out a lot of the population.

Oh, and yes, Phaoroh, I did read the article. And it seemed to me that the problem isn't so much that Muslims are invading your country. It is that your country has it's head too far up it's ass to embrace multiculturalism. And since you are so against other cultures, it also has occured to me that my comment about people like you being the cause of the world's problems is all the more valid because of it.
Feb 20th, 2006 12:41 PM
Pharaoh Bird flu?

I don't get that, Abcdxxxx.
Feb 19th, 2006 09:33 PM
Abcdxxxx two words.

bird flu.
Feb 19th, 2006 07:47 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
Have you idiots got anything to say about the actual topic? Have you even read it? I'm very flattered that you want to talk about me but I'm interested to see your views about it.
you mean like

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Stop whining, you stinking hippie assholes.
Feb 19th, 2006 07:41 PM
Pharaoh Have you idiots got anything to say about the actual topic? Have you even read it? I'm very flattered that you want to talk about me but I'm interested to see your views about it.
Feb 19th, 2006 07:01 PM
Immortal Goat Stop breathing, you dripping nazi cunt.
Feb 19th, 2006 12:27 PM
Pharaoh Stop whining, you stinking hippie assholes.
Feb 19th, 2006 12:25 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
What, you mean like the way pro-abortion liberals encourage the killing of non-Muslim babies? Well, no, I don't think that would work with Muslims. You see, unlike us infidels they're trying to increase their population not reduce it.
What the hell are you talking about? I'm hoping that your view of life isn't soo skewed to think that liberals want to abort babies because just because they want to be baby killers. I'm hoping that you realize that the situation is. I don't support abortion, but even I know that it's a little more complicates than "dude lets stick a coat hanger in a prego's vagina."

but the best part of that is that you don't deny that deny my ridiculously sarcastic comment is a valid option, just that it won't work with muslims..
Feb 19th, 2006 11:50 AM
Immortal Goat Of COURSE the abortion clinics are pro-abortion. They don't deal with the CHOICE of the matter, they just provide one of the OPTIOINS. They are FOR THEIR OPTION. However, LIBERALS are pro-CHOICE. I AM CAPITALIZING SO MAYBE THAT PUNY SINGLE-CELLED ORGANISM YOU CALL A BRAIN CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING!

You fucking twat, you just don't understand anything, do you? You just sit in your tower, bult with the ignorant bigotry you have fooled yourself into thinking are "morals". It's people like you that cause the world's problems. You think you are so high and mighty, when in actuality you are just as bad as the Muslim extremists you hate so much. Fuck you, you ignorant cunt. Go start another Crusade why don't you?
Feb 19th, 2006 11:01 AM
Pharaoh
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Originally Posted by glowbelly
HEY LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING:

there is no such thing as pro-abortion, no matter what side of the fence you fall on.

liberals don't walk around thinking "I THINK IT'S A GOOD DAY FOR AN ABORTION! ISN'T ABORTION A WONDERFUL THING?! I'M PRO-ABORTION!!"

you wank.
WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING:

I never said liberals walk around thinking "I THINK IT'S A GOOD DAY FOR AN ABORTION! ISN'T ABORTION A WONDERFUL THING?! I'M PRO-ABORTION!!"
But they do promote and encourage abortion.
For instance, LOOK HERE, DICKHEAD

See, I'm only using the same term that abortion clinics use, and if you don't like it you should complain to them.
Feb 18th, 2006 07:02 PM
Chojin I'm pro-abortion for red states.
Feb 18th, 2006 12:02 PM
Abcdxxxx The whole 'abortion is stopping us from competing in the world market of babymaking' argument is a pretty poor one. You'd have to assume that people are still using the rhythm method, or condoms were a rarity. The baby booms we experienced during the period abortion was illegal don't even compare. We like our quality of life too much to pop out 12 kids. Just over populating isn't the key to world dominance, anyway. You've got to send them overseas so they get their proper educations too. You've got to abuse their systems, and bleed them dry, while appealing for your right to do it because you're a disadvantaged minority.

Anyway, if you're going to try and guess the outcome of political issues based on population statistics, you'd have to take a real us vs. them stance, or look at this all like it was a back alley brawl. We know from history that majority does not always win.
Feb 18th, 2006 10:27 AM
glowbelly HEY LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING:

there is no such thing as pro-abortion, no matter what side of the fence you fall on.

liberals don't walk around thinking "I THINK IT'S A GOOD DAY FOR AN ABORTION! ISN'T ABORTION A WONDERFUL THING?! I'M PRO-ABORTION!!"

you wank.
Feb 18th, 2006 05:55 AM
Pharaoh
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Originally Posted by ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
I don't support any political party at the moment but the only solution I can see is to stop Muslim immigration into Europe and encourage non-Muslims to have more children by supporting families.
LOL

Don't you think that it would just be easier to kill muslim babies?
What, you mean like the way pro-abortion liberals encourage the killing of non-Muslim babies? Well, no, I don't think that would work with Muslims. You see, unlike us infidels they're trying to increase their population not reduce it.

Although, having said that, I'm shocked, and pleased actually, to read in the article below, that Danna Vale, the politician who started this debate off in Australia, is a liberal. Maybe liberals are realizing the danger after all. Or maybe the Australian Liberal party is not really liberal. I don't know much about their politics but I think that could be it.




SYDNEY, February 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – An Australian Liberal MP has warned that the introduction of the abortion drug RU-486 could lead Australia to becoming a predominantly Muslim country.

Danna Vale Liberal MP for Hughes in Sydney, said, “When you actually look at the birth rates and when you look at the fact that we are aborting ourselves almost out of existence by 100,000 abortions every year and that's only a guesstimate.”

Vale said she was referring to a comment made by an Australian Imam who claimed that Australia would be a Muslim country in 50 years. “You multiply that by 50 years, that's five million potential Australians we won't have here,” Vale said.
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Health Minister Tony Abbot is fighting to keep control of the deadly abortion drug in the hands of Parliament while the Therapeutic Goods Administration is lobbying along with the Australian medical establishment for its general distribution. Democrats have pushed an amendment to the Therapeutic Goods Act that would remove the restrictions on the drug and MP’s are preparing for a conscience vote this week.*

While Vale is being criticized for her comments, the numbers bear out her suggestion. The Australian Bureau of Statistics says that the general Australian population is aging and birth rates remain low.

Worldwide, statistics are showing that people with strong traditional religious beliefs, whether Muslim or Christian, tend to have more children. In a time when Christians have followed the general secularizing trend, birth rates in traditionally Christian societies such as Australia have dropped precipitously.

While 1996 statistics show that although just over 70% of Australians listed themselves as Christian, only 6.6% of Catholics and 4.7% of Anglicans aged 15-19 attend church services weekly. Other surveys have shown that only a tiny fraction of Australia’s Christians hold traditional Christian beliefs about life and family, and abortion rates are as high among Christians as among the general population.

The Australian Muslim population, while relatively small, has been increasing steadily with immigration. More significantly, birth rates among Muslims, while starting to show a slight decline worldwide, are still significantly higher than non-Muslims. Although Muslims make up only 1.12% of the Australian population, the demographic shift is tilting sharply away from Australia remaining even a nominally Christian country.

High rates of birth among Muslims also mean that while the general population of Australia is aging, Muslims are starting to make up significantly higher proportions of youth. The 1996 census showed of Muslims in New South Wales, 52.5% were under 25 years of age. In the general population of New South Wales, only 35.6% were under 25.

Link here
Feb 17th, 2006 10:11 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
I don't support any political party at the moment but the only solution I can see is to stop Muslim immigration into Europe and encourage non-Muslims to have more children by supporting families.
LOL

Don't you think that it would just be easier to kill muslim babies?
Feb 17th, 2006 04:56 PM
Pharaoh
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Originally Posted by Sethomas
If that's the case, you must have serious flatulance and live in solitude.
Hmmm, that would imply that I do want to hear from an asshole. Which implies that you think this forum is full of assholes. You know, I think you could be onto something there.
Feb 17th, 2006 04:46 PM
Preechr
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
That's interesting stuff, and it should worry European liberals, because Islam is very conservative. Even moderate Muslims are conservative by European standards. Gays will be the first to suffer when the Muslim population gets large enough, and then women. Gays and Muslims are already clashing here and it's going to be fun to watch how liberals here handle the problem of which minority to support. Hopefully they'll destroy each other.
I think Pharoah is on to something, even if he doesn't know it... blinded as he is by party tags.

The main weapon radical Islam has against the West is our own misguided habit of avoiding any offense by embracing everything offensive. This is me talking, so I'm not talking about gay people when I say that... that's his personal albatross, for whatever gay reason... but though the message may be flawed to the point of seeming incoherent, maybe infantile, the underlying logic is rich creamery butter.
Feb 17th, 2006 03:53 PM
Sethomas If that's the case, you must have serious flatulance and live in solitude.
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