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May 10th, 2006 07:02 PM
Ant10708 Someone get Chojin a show on Comedy Central!
May 10th, 2006 05:32 PM
Chojin
May 10th, 2006 05:31 PM
kahljorn On an unrelated note, in recent times I've seen more people being pulled over and searched than I ever have before. Just 20 minutes ago i saw sheriffs pulling someone over and they had bullet proof vests on and such.
Anyhow, the other day this guy got pulled over in front of our house, the police harassed him and cuffed him, took him to their car, questioned him, searched his car, pulled out a pair of scissors and put it on the hood like it's "Evidence" then talked to him some more, released him and he took some needed stuff out of his car while they sent it off to impound. He didn't have a license.

You coulda been killing someone with those scissors, son.
May 10th, 2006 12:40 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by Geggy
Interesting point of view. Yeah I completely understand that homeland security's invention of terror alert level is starting to have very little effect on people now that its possbile theyre trying to spook people by spreading false information about how they're being watched.
What evidence do you have to support this? I mean, the color coding system stuff never really resonated much with people, but what has led you to believe that people aren't concerned?

Secondly, what has led you to believe that people are really concerned over the NSA spying program? What are you basing this off of?
May 10th, 2006 12:31 PM
Geggy
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Originally Posted by george
its not the nazi thing.

i really have begun to believe we are being fooled.

like, no matter how aware you think you are, the government is pulling off some fucktackular shit that you will never know about until it is all too late.

like the big lie, "i hit a deer", when you actually should be saying "i hit a deer while shooting up, and drinkining, and having my illegal imigrant prostitute preform oral services, just after spending all our money on fireworks and nipple rings"

and it just makes me weary.
Interesting point of view. Yeah I completely understand that homeland security's invention of terror alert level is starting to have very little effect on people now that its possbile theyre trying to spook people by spreading false information about how they're being watched.

Even it's all true that the police force has increased, its most likely a farce that homeland security is all that concerned about our saftey and our security unless Rummy starts wearing lipsticks and mini skirts as part of covert operation to keep coppers in check, then I'll be shocked.
May 9th, 2006 10:01 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by george
i ask this honestly, not to be a smart ass:

who cares?

even if the whole police state thing is true, what does it matter? so what if they monitor how much porn i watch, or drinks i take?

i obey laws as i see fit, i do what i please, and rarely does any rule or law really effect me.
There's a fine line where the upholding of laws crosses between the parameters of objectivity and subjectivity. Like how virtually anyone can get pulled over for no good reason other than the cop feels like asking them how much they've had to drink or that they were going 3 miles over the speed limit.

It's not just the fact that someone is watching you, if you take it for face value no big deal. But just imagine how "how many drinks you take" can be spun when someone wants to put you away.

It's a terribly pesimistic view of how the world runs, though. Not everyone is out to get you. But I also don't think that having that any human will manage that type of information or power well.
May 9th, 2006 07:10 PM
Zhukov ASIO chief in Australia recentley stated that Australians were not worried enough by terrorism as they should be, and that ASIO would be stepping up their eforts to make people more concerned.
May 9th, 2006 05:46 PM
george its not the nazi thing.

i really have begun to believe we are being fooled.

like, no matter how aware you think you are, the government is pulling off some fucktackular shit that you will never know about until it is all too late.

like the big lie, "i hit a deer", when you actually should be saying "i hit a deer while shooting up, and drinkining, and having my illegal imigrant prostitute preform oral services, just after spending all our money on fireworks and nipple rings"

and it just makes me weary.
May 8th, 2006 07:51 PM
Geggy Yeah it's just that I feel compelled to compare the bush admin to the nazi regime. There are a lot of striking similitaries between the two. Think about it, regardless of whoever you think did 9/11, it gave bush the justification to do whatever he wants just as the reichstag fire, whom the communists were first blamed, gave hitler the throne. But I'll take your word for it, cuz you know a lot more about the nixon era than I do. It's also more comforting to think that way heh. The population in America is too large and there are too many people who would never allow the bush admin to take a stranglehold of their lives so I'm not worried about it.

I agree with george, I could give two shits if I'm being spied on. I have nothing to hide and it doesn't make me paranoid. In fact, whoever is spying on me is the paranoid one.
May 8th, 2006 03:58 PM
mburbank It's not like the Nazis, it's like the Nixon administration. A lot like it.

Now, I'll take the Nixon administration over the Holocaust any day. But I'm still pretty sure that doesn't mean Nixon was a good president.

And George, aside from wasting time and money and pissing on some of the things that sometimes make this country better than others, as long as all they do is listen to and watch you, it isn't a huge deal. Except for the part where they spend so much time doing bullshit they totally miss larger stuff.

But when the FBI 'watches' the group that protests the School of The Americas and labels them a potential terrorist threat, that's chilling. Because they are moving toward taking the political divide in the country and laying the groundwork to make one side criminal. Now so far in America the pendulum has generally managed to swing the other way before this sort of shit got too out of hand. Unless you were Japanese during WWII or a pinko in the fifties nothing much ever happened to you. My own parents were on the parger Nixon list, and while we had a van parked outside our house on a rewgular basis during the Month or so they organized protests against the ABM site being built in our town it was never a big deal.

But there's always a first time. I still believe in America, and I don't think a real, dangerous assault on our freedoms would ever work. But I think this gang is dumb enough to try. And I think, like a rabid dog, teh could do a lot of damage before they got put down.
May 8th, 2006 03:07 PM
kahljorn They'll catch up with you, hamburglar.
May 8th, 2006 12:12 PM
george i ask this honestly, not to be a smart ass:

who cares?

even if the whole police state thing is true, what does it matter? so what if they monitor how much porn i watch, or drinks i take?

i obey laws as i see fit, i do what i please, and rarely does any rule or law really effect me.
May 8th, 2006 04:39 AM
Abcdxxxx No wonder.
May 8th, 2006 03:55 AM
kahljorn Yea, I need to keep with the times what am I thinking I should know these things so I know who to exterminate for being a part of an evil religion.
I don't really listen to the radio unless I'm in the car, and I don't want to pay for a newspaper. I get a mexican newspaper, though, once a month.
May 8th, 2006 03:22 AM
Abcdxxxx 13 links later, and it's still a modern curiosity around these parts? holy shit.
May 7th, 2006 11:28 PM
Kulturkampf A plot was uncovered concerning an al-Qaeda trained jihadi that filled a car with explosives and was traveling through Canada towards LAX.

Maybe its the same one.
May 7th, 2006 03:29 PM
Abcdxxxx Then just pretend old fashioned newspapers, and AM radio are alternative forms of media, in that case.
May 7th, 2006 03:07 PM
kahljorn I don't have cable so i guess nobody needs really needs mainstream media.
May 7th, 2006 02:10 PM
Abcdxxxx Who needs that mainstream media anyway? Just bunker down in Ukiah with your "I put the INFO in informed" t-shirt, and think pretty thoughts.

At least Geggy had the rare opportunity to talk about Nazis.
May 7th, 2006 01:48 PM
kahljorn Thanks, strange that I heard nothing about it considering I live in california ;/
May 7th, 2006 08:52 AM
KevinTheOmnivore Leave it to the Zionist media.
May 7th, 2006 03:49 AM
Abcdxxxx weird. you'd think a major news source would have picked up on that one, right?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4827724
http://losangeles.fbi.gov/dojpressre...a083105usa.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ror-plot_x.htm
abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/ story?id=1042853&page=1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081601468.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...083102010.html
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9148467/
www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=251&sid=596168
www.californiachronicle.com/ articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=2231
edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/31/terror.charges/
seattletimes.nwsource.com/ html/nationworld/2002463377_terror01.html
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474572/posts
www.nbc4.tv/news/4921815/detail.html
May 6th, 2006 09:03 PM
Geggy Kahl...I'm glad you caught that too, cuz I was thinking the same. Reminded me of the time recently in which Bush announced that a terror attack attempt in L.A. by using planes was thwarted in '02 and the mayor of L.A. never heard such thing. So it could be bs info to justify the upscaling of police state.

I've started to notice the increase of policing around here myself. I was driving to work yesterday and there was a cop car for every one of the three streetlights on route 16. Stores all over have started installing a more technological advaned survilience cameras inside. Maybe it's just me and it's all a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by ziggytrix
that's a bit of a stretch.

More like Stalin's NKVD managing the Keystone Cops.
Ha good point. It's just fun to compare the bush admin and the nazi. Its not much of a stretch if you consider the bush admin as the softer version of the nazi regime. Thought you'd be interested in knowing that W. Bush's grandfather was hitler's banker. Imagine the bedtime stories his grandfather told.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...312540,00.html
May 6th, 2006 07:22 PM
ziggytrix that's a bit of a stretch.

More like Stalin's NKVD managing the Keystone Cops.
May 6th, 2006 07:08 PM
kahljorn "And last year, local police in Torrance, Calif., thwarted what the FBI says could have been America's worst incident since 9/11--planned attacks on military sites and synagogues in and around Los Angeles by homegrown jihadists."

Anybody have information on that? I've never heard of that.
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