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Jul 24th, 2006 12:52 AM | |||||
kahljorn |
"If there is no Karma and no afterlife" The word karma means action and has to do with how the actions of you and others in your lifetime effect your future. The word literally means action, and the philosophical principles connected to it all have to with action. Therefore being a prickish asshole now is likely to effect your morals by making you a prickish asshole in the future, and in life you will encounter the things prickish assholes will likely encounter. "getting caught therefor that affects how you act. " Yep that's karma for ya! "Act" lol ;( Hindiusm is pretty literal at core(karma is a sanskirt word). "if buddhism has a god name one" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_cosmology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Aakra ;( Buddhism like hinduism often has many Gods are emanations or whatever you may call them them, but buddhism, much like hinduism, considers every god within it to be an aspect of the ULTIMATE EXISTANCE, brahman. They all come from there, and they all return to there. They are just aspects, facets, of the divine. ;/ A pretty common philosophic idea, the above, obviously lesser existences come from greater existeces, and are thus a part of the overall, great existence.. Evolution isn't an atheistic creation story. It's a scientific theory. I'm done with this topic, so don't worry ;/ |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 10:03 PM | |||||
Preechr | Don't forget about the part where you confused nihilism with Nietzsche... | ||||
Jul 23rd, 2006 08:55 PM | |||||
Courage the Cowardly Dog |
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Anyway, back to bear arms. You know You can make napalm with froaen OJ concentrate and diesel fuel? |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 08:34 PM | |||||
CaptainBubba |
"If there is no Karma and no afterlife, how does it not affect your morals? It means youhave no retribution outside of concience and getting caught therefor that affects how you act. If athiesm has no creation story what is evolution? " None of this is inherint to athiesm. You are making broad wide sweeping assumptions about athiesm based on your personal opinion, and just to make it absolutely clear, are an idiot. If we must continue this I agree it should be put in another thread. |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 07:40 PM | |||||
Preechr |
Since this was my thread and the turn it has taken makes me feel sad, could someone please split this up and stick the retarded crap over in the gay and illiterate forum? I mean, this tangent makes me want to shoot people, but it's not really topical. |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 07:34 PM | |||||
Courage the Cowardly Dog |
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If there is no Karma and no afterlife, how does it not affect your morals? It means youhave no retribution outside of concience and getting caught therefor that affects how you act. If athiesm has no creation story what is evolution? Don't most other religions believe it because they have no evidence to the contrary? So what's the difference between secular humanism and athiesm? |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 12:48 PM | |||||
KevinTheOmnivore |
come on guys don't fight ok Atheism by definition wouldn't necessarily be a religion, but it can be very dogmatic. I've heard "secular humanism" referred to as a religion, or a cult. Or whatever. |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 12:13 PM | |||||
kahljorn |
I don't know, I wouldn't call atheism a religion. "Buddism has no gods either and it's still a religion" Actually it does have some gods ;( I don't think nihilism has anything to do with God being dead, per se, as existence being bullshit ;( "It affects your inner most morals and belief of the how the world came to be." It doesn't effect your morals to say there's no god. There is no atheistic creation story. "The lack of religion has it's own beliefs IE there is no God and no afterlife." I don't think atheists believe it so much as they have no evidence to the contrary. |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 10:43 AM | |||||
Courage the Cowardly Dog |
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the belief: there is no God values: pleasing myself and if I'm a nice guy advancing the gene pool attitudes: being an asshole The lack of religion has it's own beliefs IE there is no God and no afterlife. Athiesm by defintion is the BELIEF that there is no God. Buddism has no gods either and it's still a religion. How about nihilism the belief that God is dead? It affects your inner most morals and belief of the how the world came to be. It seems to me that is exactly what a religion does. Scientology doesn't call itself a religion either but I think we can all agree that it IS a religion. Your arrogance in feeling that your belief is beyond any religion because it rejects all other religions is assanine and you need to be attacked with a pair of bear arms befor you reproduce. |
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Jul 23rd, 2006 01:26 AM | |||||
CaptainBubba |
Athiesm is by definition simply a lack of religion. It has no inherint ties into any philosophy or way of thinking and merely states one doesn't believe in a practicing faith. Also your definition of religion is very obviously self fabricated and using it in any other context than your own fanciful thoughts will get you laughed at for being such a pompous faggot. |
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Jul 22nd, 2006 09:57 PM | |||||
Courage the Cowardly Dog |
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The lack of a philosophy in and of itself IS a philosophy. Religion isn't always about churches and rituals. It's about why you exist. |
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Jul 22nd, 2006 09:49 PM | |||||
CaptainBubba |
"Now the most popular religion is athiesm" -Courage the Cowardly Dog saved for posterity. Ok. Now to the point. You are shockingly stupid and should be baned for a week for being so stupid. |
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Jul 22nd, 2006 06:44 PM | |||||
Courage the Cowardly Dog |
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As for on the subject. I think you should be able to own something automatic or under but ONLY if you get the gun registered, you get fingerprinted and sample fired bullets are taken. After all most murders don't happen with automatics (outside of gangs), those are usually just for collecting. I think the laws should be much stronger on buying, selling, owning, and using guns. But I think it's alright to have them in general. But honestly i don't know much on the subject nor do i have any strong stand one way or another outside of that damn gunshow loophole i think needs to stop. as for the nuclear nades I think they were better in perfect dark |
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Jul 22nd, 2006 08:23 AM | |||||
El Blanco |
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Jul 22nd, 2006 12:54 AM | |||||
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Jul 22nd, 2006 12:40 AM | |||||
Juttin |
Stun as in stop them from moving. Seriously, no cops want to plant someone in the chest. |
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Jul 22nd, 2006 12:03 AM | |||||
El Blanco |
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The NYPD is instructed to pull their guns only when in a situation that deadly force is nessacery. In others words, only go for their guns when they are willing to kill someone. Quote:
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Jul 21st, 2006 05:38 PM | |||||
executioneer | dude you get more points if you get a headshot don't you know anything | ||||
Jul 21st, 2006 05:21 PM | |||||
Juttin |
Blanco, I've fired a gun before, damnit. And it's a well known police manuever to shoot to stun. It doesn't fucking blow your limbs off I've seen it done |
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Jul 21st, 2006 02:46 PM | |||||
mburbank |
I will only kill myself trying to make a flamethrower. I want a huge ass military surpluss flamethrower. I'm okay with control in the form of very strict, heavily enforced liscencing. And it doesn't matter what YOU think about me owning a nuke, Preech. You are way the fuck out on the far end of the curve. My point was, the vast majority of people probably accept SOME form of line about what a private citizen can own in the way of weapons, and if any line is accepted, than the argument is about where the line gets drawn. Personally, I wouldn't trust me with anything that could kill more than ten thousand people at a go. Most days I wouldn't set it off the way the drunks on my street do firecrackers in early July, but it only takes one day. And I'm not an entirely reliable individual. |
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Jul 19th, 2006 11:17 PM | |||||
Preechr |
Last I checked, you can build a flame thrower pretty easily, and it's legal to own (at least in some places, probably not your state where buying a diesel-powered truck is illegal) up until the point at which you use it on someone or something. Radioactive material and other deadly substances, such as sarin (made from castor beans,) mustard gas (made from French's yellow mustard) and C-4 (made from poop,) requries strict licensing to possess. I'm pretty sure you'd get vetted out of that process, buddy... no offense. Just as with the War on Some Drugs, I have no problems with you having whatever weapons you wish as long as they are owned and used in a strict licensing and enforcement scenario. The Second Amendment was ultimately intended to allow for protection of American citizens from their government. It was a given at the time that guns came in handy when the time for protection of one's life and/or property became at stake due to the imposition of another citizen or a group of them, and that's not at all addressed by the amendment. That assertion is easily proven by noting that NONE of the protections in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights restrict interpersonal activity, but rather only the actions of the government upon it's owners. Let me repeat that in less Preechr-like prose: The Constitution only tells the government what it can and cannot do to you, not what we can and cannot do to each other or to the government. Your actions are restricted by laws passed by Congress, which are checked against Moral and Constitutional authority by the executive and legislative branches, respectively. Now, if you really want to discuss Gun Control, please reference http://justfacts.com/gun_control.htm first. It's actually a rather boring argument. |
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Jul 19th, 2006 11:11 PM | |||||
CaptainBubba | Nah, M.J makes me horribly unexplainably depressed. I'm all about Shrooms lately. | ||||
Jul 19th, 2006 10:55 PM | |||||
kahljorn |
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Jul 19th, 2006 09:47 PM | |||||
Preechr |
HEY!! THIS THREAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ME!!! |
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Jul 19th, 2006 09:14 PM | |||||
ziggytrix | BOH BOH! | ||||
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