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Sep 25th, 2007 11:23 PM
Emu I beat the game!

I think I may have judged it a little harshly. The game is difficult (note I didn't say challenging; it's difficult in that 'pain in the ass' sort of way) but if you're the kind of person who can look past shitty gameplay and subpar graphics to the genuinely interesting story beneath, then this game at least deserves a rental, if you can find a place to rent it out. There's apparently a lot more to the game after you beat it, so maybe I'll get a more satisfying experience out of the game if I play it again.
Sep 20th, 2007 09:35 PM
Emu I'd call the game mediocre, but that's too generous.

It feels like that time I accidentally downloaded a dump of a beta version of Sonic 3. It was kind of fun to fuck around on, but unplayable in any serious way. That's how this game is. Unpolished. I really think it could've been a great horror game, or at the very least in the realm of Haunting Ground in the horror game pecking order, if it had been given a few more months in production. The game's got an obvious pattern that the developers wanted to give everything some kind of significance. In the first hallway of the mansion, everything is examinable. That fades after a few rooms. It's a damn shame.
Sep 20th, 2007 01:30 AM
Emu This game is driving me nuts.

The story, for what little has been revealed to me, is interesting enough to keep me playing, but the gameplay makes trying to find out what the hell is going on a chore. Whenever you're attacked by enemies, you're literally swarmed; every hallway will be filled with little melting children in tuxedos. Thankfully I have a pipe weapon now that can hit 2-3 at once, although combat is so ganked as to just make it less painful to simply run away... and then I encounter 10 more in the next room.

The enemies are extremely repetitive, and that's an understatement. There have been four varieties of enemies. Three of them are the little tuxedo children in different flavors: Normal, rat-headed and bunny-headed. The rat- and bunny-headed individuals are sort of creepy in their own right as they tend to be related to the game's current theme. The other enemy I've encountered has been a boss, a strange fellow who seems to be a teacher that attacks with one of those old fashioned pointer sticks and beats the fuck out of you while you stumble around in vain attempting to aim for him. I died against him and shut the game off for the time being.

The game is permeated by graphics errors that are forgivable but sloppy, like shadows appearing through walls, or cast onto the wrong wall, or not cast at all. Or when your dog companion tries to ascend stairs and begins walking in place. Camera angles range from surprisingly effective to painful; occasionally your character will be able to run so far away from it that you can't tell exactly where you are with respect to it or other objects.

On the plus side, the children are relatively creepy, and as predicted, the fat one is indeed the scariest. The music is still repetitive but good enough to be tolerable. There are lots and lots of creepy violin themes, and that creepy string pluck from older horror movies.

As I understand it, the game's creator, Atlus, has released basically nothing but RPGs over its career, and its newness to other genres comes out painfully clear in this game. It's trying to be heavily story driven while having Silent Hill's constant on-your-toes action. As well, the most detailed part of the game seems to be the menu screen, which is unfortunately also probably the most entertaining part. It has a chalkboard-looking setup and a lot of cute-but-eerie drawings that have interesting quirks about them and probably some significance to the story that I haven't found yet.

I'm determined to give the game a full chance, and my girlfriend seems to enjoy it a lot. So hopefully I'll be able to make it through it.
Sep 19th, 2007 11:12 PM
Girl Drink Drunk
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Originally Posted by Marc Summers View Post
Is the Silent Hill series any good? I saw this clip of SH3, and it really gave me chills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkYtflr1KsM
Yes, it is very scary. Until the first Silent Hill is ported to another console in a collection or remade (you can find the PS game on Ebay, but copies go for around 50 dollars there usaully), I highly reccomend that you play Silent Hill 2 and 3. Rather than relying on scripted "jump out at you" moments, like in Resident, the series plays on your fear with ambient music and bizare sounds (also, you rely on a radio that detects creatures with static sounds) and darkness (your only source of light is a dim ray of a flashlight). Also, enviroments range from the ghost town itself to aged, abandoned buildings to the decaying and rusted backgrounds of the otherworld. These factors make playing the Silent Hill series (especially in the 1st and 3rd) a very intense and nerve-wracking experience.
Sep 18th, 2007 11:17 PM
Emu I got the dog!

He seems useful, anyway. The sections of the game where you're by yourself leave a lot of explorable-but-empty areas that make it feel like it's not worth my while to deviate from the plot's linear room sequence. The dog can find hidden items and thus may actually give some kind of point to looking around, which has improved my perception of the game immensely at this point.

The most redeeming feature so far seems to be the music. It's moody and interesting, if painfully repetetive at parts. The voice acting has been good to superb at the parts where it exists. Some sections that should have voice acting don't, and one child had voiced parts for half of his dialogue and silent subtitles for the rest. Speaking of dialogue, the game is very well-written in the sense that there's no Engrish, although the children don't really talk like children (which is forgivable in a horror game or movie -- I'm still freaked out by the kid from Children of the Corn and how creepily articulate he was.)

The graphics are continuing to disappoint me. The characters move in an extremely goofy way that's pretty unforgivable for a game released as recently as this one, and especially when it's following in the heels of the Silent Hill and Fatal Frame series (and I guess RE4, if you count it as a PS2 game.) A lot of the textures are re-used too often and there's not a lot to look at -- and what you can look at you can rarely examine up close.

The worst part so far is the combat. I've only fought one monster, a warped little melted child in a tuxedo. It was a creepy monster in its own right, but it quickly lost its charm when I started stabbing it with my salad fork. Turning to target the thing was an ordeal in itself, given that it was so short as to stand well below my level fighting range. I had to actually disengage combat to turn and face it, and the thing was much faster than I was. It grappled me and I shook it off. It fell stunned on the ground while I tried in vain to make the bitch bend over and stab it. I had to wait for the thing to stand up again before I could hit it, at which point I was greeted with the cheapest looking blood splatter I think I've ever seen in a PS2 game. I get the idea that there's one manner of bloodsplat for each attack you make against any enemy. No salad fork is going to create the gusher of blood that shot out of the thing, not to mention the fact that this splatter was represented by one static expanding texture jutting out from the thing's head. Fuck.

I can say, however, that I am kind of sorry I had to spend 30 bucks on it, even for a new copy. The game's been out for a year and apparently hasn't been selling well. If you're a srs bizness horror junkie like me, you might want to pick it up for the notoriety factor alone. The game was banned in Poland or something.
Sep 18th, 2007 06:23 PM
Emu I haven't met the dog yet.
Sep 18th, 2007 06:07 PM
Guitar Woman Doesn't the dog solve all the puzzles for you or something
Sep 18th, 2007 05:10 PM
Emu I picked this up today. I've heard bad things, but I felt like it was something I had to have to complete my Giant Faggoty Horror collection. I'm on the thin line of hating the game so far. The graphics are sub-par for late 2006, and the game seems to shift sporadically between giving more detail than is necessary to uninteresting things (random hallway objects such as potted plants get their own camera pans when examined, for example) but interesting objects like cabinets get nothing more than an opening animation and a disappointing noise -- not even an "it's empty" text flashing at the bottom of the screen.

The game is very atmospheric so far, although it is really fucking slow and I have no idea where to go. The lack of a map is getting painfully frustrating, especially when many rooms share the same name (there are at least four 'Hallway's for example_
Jan 20th, 2007 04:36 AM
GADZOOKS It's disgustingly slow and not scary. IT STINKS.
Jan 19th, 2007 11:45 PM
Emu So has anybody tried this yet? I've thought of picking it up but I've heard almost nothing good.
Aug 8th, 2006 11:37 AM
executioneer my fav. is the part where SPOILERS
Aug 8th, 2006 07:57 AM
MarioRPG
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Originally Posted by executioneer
call of cthulhu scared the christ out of me
I never got to the scary points in that game, I guess.
Aug 7th, 2006 09:50 PM
King Hadas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Rose

It's like a surrealistic version of the Lord of the Flies but with an all girl cast.
Aug 7th, 2006 09:40 PM
Emu I haven't heard of this one. Who made it? And is there any available plot synopsis or anything? I'm desperate for new survival horror.
Aug 7th, 2006 05:00 PM
executioneer you're a fagg*t game
Aug 7th, 2006 03:31 PM
James Less talking about faggot games, more talking about games where little girls bury other little girls alive and piss on each other.
Aug 7th, 2006 12:02 PM
Chojin coc is scary until you get a gun, and then it's just funny and really broken :<

like you can make the dudes chase you back to the save sigils and they freak out and run away while you beat them to death with a crowbar.

but you can do this all DAY
Aug 6th, 2006 10:03 PM
ArrowX I'm afraid of any game that takes place underwater. Case in point Echo The Dolphin.

Call of Cthulhu is retarted scary unlill about 2/3 of the way in for about maybe 1 or 2 chapters, then it gets scary again
Aug 6th, 2006 09:40 PM
executioneer call of cthulhu scared the christ out of me
Aug 6th, 2006 09:39 PM
King Hadas Yes it's an excellent series, so far I have yet to see a movie or a book that is scarier than Silent Hill 3 (although you'll need some movie/literature buffs to come in here and agree with that statement before it becomes even remotely impressive).
Aug 6th, 2006 09:06 PM
Marc Summers Is the Silent Hill series any good? I saw this clip of SH3, and it really gave me chills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkYtflr1KsM
Aug 6th, 2006 07:50 PM
James Well, no. I can't stand tank controls at all. but that doesn't change the fact that I've tried to play survival horror games with 3D controls, and I was scared.
Aug 6th, 2006 12:15 PM
King Hadas
Re: Rule of Rose

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Originally Posted by James
I cannot play survival horror games. Mostly because they scare me.
I think your just saying that so you won't get roped into another "tank controls" conversation.

but about this game it does look creepy as hell, I hope the game is able to live up to the spooky trailer they presented on Cinematech, I can't actually remember the last time I played a really good survival horror.
Aug 6th, 2006 04:46 AM
Shifty Kinkeh
Aug 6th, 2006 03:37 AM
Fathom Zero I can't stop laughing at that pic, but I also can't wait for the game. Horror movies and games have absolutly no effect on me. This thing looks good, really good.
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