| Aug 9th, 2009 10:54 PM |
| Colonel Flagg |
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Originally Posted by Tadao
Some disagree with me, but I still say "Treat the person, not the addiction."
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Unfortunately this family will never get the chance to find out "what if?" ....
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| Aug 9th, 2009 10:00 PM |
| Fathom Zero |
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Originally Posted by Evil Robot
I went and looked at the exit she got on from today, the fucked up thing is that the way the intersection is set up, it feels like your supposed to go that way. If it weren't for the four or so huge signs and cars coming at you, I could see how any confused person could make that mistake.
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| Aug 8th, 2009 12:34 PM |
| Tadao |
Some disagree with me, but I still say "Treat the person, not the addiction."
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| Aug 8th, 2009 12:31 PM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by Tadao
It's not that hard to hide it, what is hard is getting people to see that you are a time bomb without them telling you to man up. Thanks Dr. Phil!
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Precisely. I doubt this would've happened if addiction wasn't so stigmatized...
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| Aug 8th, 2009 12:24 PM |
| Tadao |
It's not that hard to hide it, what is hard is getting people to see that you are a time bomb without them telling you to man up. Thanks Dr. Phil!
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| Aug 8th, 2009 12:21 PM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by Tadao
I think it is exactly what it looks like. She had been hiding her troubles and addictions from her family, no one knew she was in trouble so no one tried to help her, she finally got numb enough to die.
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I agree. Her husband worked long hours and didn't get to see her very often, so I think that he really might not have known.
Anyway, her son is doing well...he might be able to shed some light on this.
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Originally Posted by Evil Robot
I went and looked at the exit she got on from today, the fucked up thing is that the way the intersection is set up, it feels like your supposed to go that way. If it weren't for the four or so huge signs and cars coming at you, I could see how any confused person could make that mistake.
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Workers just added two "wrong way" signs to it.
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| Aug 8th, 2009 12:18 PM |
| Tadao |
I think it is exactly what it looks like. She had been hiding her troubles and addictions from her family, no one knew she was in trouble so no one tried to help her, she finally got numb enough to die.
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| Aug 8th, 2009 12:13 PM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by Dimnos
So it must have been while driving?
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Presumably, yes.
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
Maybe it was put in her drink bottle and she drank it all just before getting in the car, or during the trip.
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There was a broken bottle of vodka at the wreck... Besides, even if that were the case, she should've passed out behind the wheel very quickly, she shouldn't have been able to drive at all, even if it was the wrong way.
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| Aug 8th, 2009 09:43 AM |
| Zhukov |
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Originally Posted by Jeanette X
Diane Schuler was 5'2 and she wasn't fat. With ten shots of hard liquor in her system, she should not have been able to stand up, let alone drive a car in ANY capacity. The booze should have killed her through alcohol poisoning. Therefore, she must've had an extremely high tolerance...the kind of tolerance that only very heavy drinkers develop. She must've been a closet alcoholic.
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Maybe it was put in her drink bottle and she drank it all just before getting in the car, or during the trip.
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| Aug 7th, 2009 06:08 PM |
| Evil Robot |
I went and looked at the exit she got on from today, the fucked up thing is that the way the intersection is set up, it feels like your supposed to go that way. If it weren't for the four or so huge signs and cars coming at you, I could see how any confused person could make that mistake.
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| Aug 7th, 2009 02:21 PM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by executioneer
ten ounces is not the same as ten shots
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They said it was the equivalent of ten shots.
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| Aug 7th, 2009 02:17 PM |
| Dimnos |
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Schuler's blood-alcohol level was 0.19% — more than twice the legal limit, cops said. She had 6 grams of undigested alcohol in her stomach when she died.
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Her husband, Daniel Schuler, told cops that his wife was fine when they left about 9:30 a.m. He drove one car straight home to West Babylon, L.I., while she took the kids to McDonald's.
Ann Scott, 77, who owns the campsite the family visited for three years, saw Schuler off.
"I got pretty close to her and waved goodbye,”" she said. "If she had alcohol in her breath, I would have smelled it."
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So it must have been while driving?
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| Aug 7th, 2009 01:14 PM |
| executioneer |
ten ounces is not the same as ten shots
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| Aug 7th, 2009 12:13 PM |
| The Leader |
Elementary, my dear Watson.
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| Aug 7th, 2009 12:06 PM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
Maybe someone fed her the alcohol/pot without her knowing it.
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Diane Schuler was 5'2 and she wasn't fat. With ten shots of hard liquor in her system, she should not have been able to stand up, let alone drive a car in ANY capacity. The booze should have killed her through alcohol poisoning. Therefore, she must've had an extremely high tolerance...the kind of tolerance that only very heavy drinkers develop. She must've been a closet alcoholic.
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| Aug 7th, 2009 09:20 AM |
| Dimnos |
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
Maybe someone fed her the alcohol/pot without her knowing it.
Sad story.
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Like someone slipped her a micky! 
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| Aug 7th, 2009 01:21 AM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by Evil Robot
I drive past that spot everyday on my way to work, there's burn marks all over the grass and chunks of pavement missing. The scary part is I had left work early but I had taken the train that day instead of driving. I would have been within a 15 minute window of being on the northbound side the same time as her.
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Jesus. You sure can thank your lucky stars.
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| Aug 6th, 2009 11:50 PM |
| Evil Robot |
I drive past that spot everyday on my way to work, there's burn marks all over the grass and chunks of pavement missing. The scary part is I had left work early but I had taken the train that day instead of driving. I would have been within a 15 minute window of being on the northbound side the same time as her.
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| Aug 6th, 2009 10:48 PM |
| Zhukov |
Maybe someone fed her the alcohol/pot without her knowing it.
Sad story.
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| Aug 6th, 2009 09:45 PM |
| Jeanette X |
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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg
I wonder how her brother is handling things - the one she called from the parkway. I don't remember if it was mentioned, but if 3 of the kids were her nieces/nephews, then was he their father? If it were me, I'd be damned near suicidal.
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Yeah, he was the father. To his credit, he called the police as soon as he got off the phone with her.
Her husband is disputing the autopsy results and insisting that she must've had something medically wrong with her. I smell denial.
I think it might have been a suicide mission. One of the eyewitnesses (a man in another car who narrowly avoided being hit by her) said that she appeared to be control of the car and not swerving or anything, and she was even following the curve of the road. The New York Post reports that she was a regular at a bar and talked about having marital problems and a stressful job while she was there.
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This story has so many levels of sadness, it has "movie of the week" written all over it. 
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Yeah. One of the responders on the scene was at the World Trade Center on 9/11 and said that this was worse.
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| Aug 6th, 2009 12:35 PM |
| Colonel Flagg |
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Originally Posted by Jeanette X
Maybe when her son comes out of the hospital he'll be able to shed some light on it...assuming he isn't brain damaged. |
I wonder how her brother is handling things - the one she called from the parkway. I don't remember if it was mentioned, but if 3 of the kids were her nieces/nephews, then was he their father? If it were me, I'd be damned near suicidal.
This story has so many levels of sadness, it has "movie of the week" written all over it.
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| Aug 6th, 2009 12:05 PM |
| elx |
yeah, all of the kids should have been old enough to understand that something was going wrong, they must've been really scared
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| Aug 6th, 2009 11:54 AM |
| Jeanette X |
Maybe when her son comes out of the hospital he'll be able to shed some light on it...assuming he isn't brain damaged.
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| Aug 6th, 2009 04:57 AM |
| executioneer |
sudden-onset psychosis
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| Aug 5th, 2009 05:57 PM |
| stevetothepast |
communism
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