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May 7th, 2010 03:37 PM | |||
Colonel Flagg |
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Except perhaps your summary being more coherent. |
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May 7th, 2010 11:58 AM | |||
Chojin |
This is technically true as well. If you aren't eating enough calories to support your basal metabolic rate + activity level, your body will slow its metabolism in an effort to compensate and therefore burn fewer calories. This mostly happens with cardio and not strength training. But 'linked to obesity' is a bullshit claim because EVERYTHING can be linked to obesity. One would have to define what the fuck they mean by 'linked to obesity' for it to make any sense. |
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May 7th, 2010 11:49 AM | |||
Dimnos |
I only made it halfway through page 9 before I couldnt take anymore but here is what Im getting out of Coolie.... "Stuff they put in our food is making us to fat" "Other stuff they put in our food is making us to skinny" Am I missing some crucial tidbits in the last half of page 9 or something? |
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May 7th, 2010 11:27 AM | |||
Zhukov | EXERCISE IS LINKED TO OBESITY. | ||
May 7th, 2010 11:14 AM | |||
Chojin |
Also, EVERY SINGLE TIME you mention that this shit is 'linked to obesity', it is mostly because it increases appetite. So what? No one is forcing people to eat high-calorie shit when they're hungry. I could make the same exact moronic point with something organic. RICE CAKES AND CRACKERS ARE LINKED TO OBESITY. This is because they make you thirsty and you might drink a coke. |
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May 7th, 2010 11:09 AM | |||
Chojin |
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It is fine to disagree with me, but it is not ok to say CHEMICALS R BAD (LINK). Fuck that. I am not reading your source. Pretend this were a real-life debate--how the shit would you formulate a point when you couldn't link to anything? |
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May 7th, 2010 11:05 AM | |||
RaNkeri |
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Wow, just wow |
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May 7th, 2010 11:05 AM | |||
TheCoolinator |
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The thread is yours. Peace. |
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May 7th, 2010 11:00 AM | |||
Chojin |
The point of a source is to reaffirm the things you say, not to present new information that makes your argument for you. Quote:
Are you aware that the difference in metabolism is affected to a far greater degree by exercise? And that the metabolic difference between someone who exercises 5 hours a week and 0 hours a week is about 50 calories a day? Therefore, are you trying to say that an even more minor metabolic imbalance is making people fat? Further, are you trying to say that it's something we could be concerned about in lieu of not eating plates and plates of organic doughnuts? |
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May 7th, 2010 10:58 AM | |||
TheCoolinator |
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May 7th, 2010 10:51 AM | |||
RaNkeri | So are we now supposed to explain you the term Junk food? | ||
May 7th, 2010 10:50 AM | |||
Chojin | The food is junk because it has a high-calorie content, not because of HFCS. All food with HFCS is junk because junk is the only type of food that needs a low-cost sugar to be added to it--again, this is not an inherent evil of HFCS and sugar would be just as bad in that scenario. And again, refer to my example of Mountain Dew with and without HFCS. Both are high in calories and sugars. | ||
May 7th, 2010 10:48 AM | |||
TheCoolinator |
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May 7th, 2010 10:41 AM | |||
Chojin |
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And no, chemicals do not make you fat. They may cause neurological changes that predispose someone to eat more often, but you haven't really proven that, either. The cause of obesity is still 100% eating. Sorry. |
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May 7th, 2010 10:37 AM | |||
RaNkeri | If I were you, I'd buy a biochemistry book and get my facts right instead of listening some bullshit "scientists" | ||
May 7th, 2010 10:30 AM | |||
TheCoolinator |
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If I were you I would re-read the thread. We went through this already. |
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May 7th, 2010 10:28 AM | |||
RaNkeri |
How do you get fat without eating? If I take one tablespoon of HFCS and nothing else, will I wake up with extra 50 kg next morning? Oh wait, is the evil government injecting us all intravenously while we sleep? |
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May 7th, 2010 10:23 AM | |||
TheCoolinator | Regarding the ingredients in food. GMO Soy being an ingredient. Certain ingredients can affect the body in negative ways. Like HFCS, MSG, and others. It's not just eating a lot that can make you fat or ill. | ||
May 7th, 2010 10:10 AM | |||
Chojin |
lol wtf Your article is about infant mortality and says right in the abstract that a serious review isn't possible. Also you're just completely wrong here, since dying is an excellent way to lose weight. Quote:
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May 7th, 2010 10:09 AM | |||
TheCoolinator |
overeating is just one part of why people are obese. We also have to look at the ingredients inside the food and what they are doing to peoples organ systems. Quote:
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May 7th, 2010 10:09 AM | |||
Zhukov | A urologist recommended that I cut my protein intake a bit. DEATH PANEL. | ||
May 7th, 2010 09:59 AM | |||
Chojin |
I forgot to explain why it's "pretty much impossible for a normal person to overeat protein". It's because (as mentioned, but not correlated) you stop being hungry long before you could overeat protein. As a DIY exercise, try to cook up 100g of lean chicken breast (13oz of chicken, about 3oz shy of a pound) and eat it all in one sitting. You fucking can't, you would throw up if you tried. MAYBE unless you exercise like a motherfucker and increase your appetite that way. However as coolie has so awkwardly posited, MSG and HFCS increase appetite. Perhaps we can slather corn syrup and MSG onto a big bucket of grilled chicken and power through the entire thing. NEW SUPPLEMENTS?!? |
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May 7th, 2010 09:49 AM | |||
RaNkeri |
I found the statement a bit odd too, but decided to quote the sentence as it was instead of editing it. She probably said it accidentally, or perhaps she meant high protein diets in general? Nevertheless, the message should be clear |
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May 7th, 2010 09:31 AM | |||
Chojin |
I told him the same exact crap without citing anything, because it's pretty much nutrition 101. But since it would seem he only listens to things in quote boxes, maybe that will help. Quote:
Also, protein is vastly preferred over fat and carbs when it comes to calories. For one thing, it has fewer calories per gram than fat. For another, eating protein increases satiety (makes you feel full) much better than other nutrients. Finally, eating protein spares your body's stored protein, which means that your muscles won't cannibalize themselves in your sleep (this is mostly only a problem for people who diet with low amounts of fat). An interesting side point here is that Americans still eat way more protein than people in other nations. Most countries have a stigma about consuming a lot of meat, but there's no nutritional basis for it. Strangely, we're one of the more healthy nations in that regard. |
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May 7th, 2010 04:50 AM | |||
Colonel Flagg | |||
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