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Apr 25th, 2003 09:20 AM
mburbank Arabs and Persians are two different ethnicities. Shiite is an Islamic denomination. There are Arabs who are Shiites and Persians who are shiites. Persian shiites can get angry when Arab Shiites seem to be bnding their religous zealotry to support Arab nationalist zealotry.
Apr 24th, 2003 11:59 PM
cba1067950 i dont mean to distract you from playing with poor vince but ive got a question.

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While Shiites are the majority in Iran and Iraq, the Shiites in Iraq are Arab, not Persian, giving U.S. officials hope that a strong sense of Iraqi nationalism and a tradition of resisting the concept of a single supreme Shiite ruler will keep Persian fundamentalism in check. "There is a big difference, a tremendous difference, between Persian and Arab Shiites," a U.S. official said
can someone fill me in on the difference between persian and arab shiites?
Apr 24th, 2003 07:24 PM
Abcdxxxx whitty ? is that slang for whitey or witty ?

i think he's talking about dreidels. they're spelled differently.

sorry vince. i can't spell either... but i at least get my slurs right.
Apr 24th, 2003 05:18 PM
Vibecrewangel
LOL

A Boomstick is a WMD. At least it is if you lose your hand to a demonic book a travel back in time with one.....

"Shop smart. Shop S-mart."
Apr 24th, 2003 03:55 PM
mburbank Oh, he has a bottom, it's just more slender than it used to be. A few more weeks and it will be able to fit into a submarine.
Apr 24th, 2003 03:27 PM
Protoclown Truly, Vince is a reservoir of comedy that has no bottom.
Apr 24th, 2003 02:37 PM
mburbank Ha ha! "Dradel"! That's a Jewish Toy! And I'm a Jew! Ha ha ha!Hah! Uh huh huhn. A huhn. 'Dradel'. Whooo. hoo boy. A huh. A hah. HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHn hee hee. heh. 'Dradel'.
Apr 24th, 2003 01:01 PM
Protoclown
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Proto, if Iraqis want to be ruled by a Muslim theocracy, then so be it. As long as they do not gather WMD or support terrorists. If it would not have been for those cases, we would have probably never attacked Saddam.
Vince, I will be truly SHOCKED if that's what happens. Absolutely, completely stunned. It will probably turn my fucking hair white. Because there's no WAY we are going to let a fundamentalist Shi'ite Muslim leader take hold of Iraq.

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Or will you sit around and get your pussy all clenched up when the vast majority of the country loves Bush?
Woah, there Vince! Don't get so excited! There's quite a vast difference between loving someone and voting for them wouldn't you say? I mean, if you feel that sort of manly attraction to Bush, that's your business, but I can't think of a single President in my lifetime that I would say I "loved".

I think you're letting your emotions cloud the issue here. Do you have a shrine to your lovebunny Bush in your apartment perhaps? One that your roommate hopefully won't throw away?
Apr 24th, 2003 12:42 PM
VinceZeb I hope you didn't spend too much time away from spinning your dradel to make that whitty but vapid retort.
Apr 24th, 2003 11:32 AM
mburbank I want to, they won't let me from having a condition of hives. Simple as that.



Seriously, I can't imagine a job I'd like less.


And Vince, as erotic as you may find the idea, I don't have a 'pussy' to 'clench'. Now leave it alone before it blisters.
Apr 24th, 2003 10:58 AM
VinceZeb Proto, if Iraqis want to be ruled by a Muslim theocracy, then so be it. As long as they do not gather WMD or support terrorists. If it would not have been for those cases, we would have probably never attacked Saddam.

Burbank, if you are so fucking smart, why don't you run for President in 04? Or will you sit around and get your pussy all clenched up when the vast majority of the country loves Bush?
Apr 24th, 2003 10:07 AM
mburbank I don't imagine we have any intention of serioulsy encouraging a majority rule style Democracy in the middle east. I think W is the only person in the administration credulous and simple ennough to have believed that for even an instant. Should it ever come up as an issue Chenney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld will take turns showing the President shiny objects to keep him distracted.
Apr 24th, 2003 08:39 AM
Brandon
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the next person who says this war was about oil we be violently sodomized with a lubeless boomstick
What's a boomstick?

Besides, amigo, you must agree oil was definitely a consideration. I don't think it's mere coincidence the first regime we targeted happened to sit upon one of the world's largest supplies of black gold.
Apr 24th, 2003 07:10 AM
Protoclown If we stop them from electing the leadership that they WANT, then we will be tremendous hypocrites. Ronnie and Vince, I am eager to see your bullshit argument that explains why we wouldn't be hypocrites for doing this.
Apr 24th, 2003 05:43 AM
FS
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Originally Posted by ItalianStereotype
the next person who says this war was about oil we be violently sodomized with a lubeless boomstick.


Just so you know, I was not being serious. I've never believed that.

What can they do now? I can't say I know what the future brings, but what other than letting the Shiites do what they want? The alternative seems to instate a new dictatorship. Perhaps, instead of trying to start a trend of democracy in Iraq, a trend of Middle-Eastern countries with good diplomatic relations with America can be started.
Apr 23rd, 2003 11:40 PM
Brandon I tell you, I couldn't BEAR to live in a world where a Republican president only pretends to care about the citizens he bombs!

I'm going to go sob bitterly in the bathtub now.
Apr 23rd, 2003 10:49 PM
mburbank Wait a sec, if Vince was just blowing smoke out his ass about caring what happnes to the Iraqi people, what if Bush was too? Oh, God Damn it, I trusted that man! Man, first Vince turns out to be a lieing, souless bag of crap, and now Bush too! That just steams my clams.
Apr 23rd, 2003 09:56 PM
ranxer i'm thinking of prison time or at least impeachment there bud..

America will be paying for the mistakes of the bush administration for a long time either way
Apr 23rd, 2003 08:24 PM
VinceZeb So, ranxer, how will the Bush administration "pay" for anything? An attack on the United States, perhaps? You should really think before you type something out.
Apr 23rd, 2003 05:34 PM
ranxer the bottom line is that both here and in Iraq(not to mention many other countries)

THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS A RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST ENABLER!

i submit a link to democracy now with a Robert Fisk interview.. he says "MY FEELING IS THAT THERE WILL BE A WAR - IT MAY ALREADY HAVE BEGUN - AGAINST THE AMERICANS BY THE IRAQIS"
http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/de...n20030422.html

its really amazing what we have done and how we are spinning it on prime time.. i don't see how the iraqis are going to benefit.
if there arent' more factional wars and people taking advantage of the power vacuum ill be amazed.

how many weapons inspectors said that iraq was 99% wmd free?
most of them?

Saddam for all his faults kept a lot of fundamentalist extreemism at bay.. we have unleashed them now.. i hope the bush administration is made to PAY damnit!
Apr 23rd, 2003 05:28 PM
theapportioner I've been beating this horse for a while, but here goes again:

The doctrine of pre-emptive "regime change" absolutely, positively needs to account for the post-war scenarios. If the assessment suggests that the country attacked is going to be worse off, both for the citizens of that country AND for the United States, then "regime change" is absolutely, positively unjustifiable. If, however, you are able to show that the citizens and the US will be better off (and empty statements about liberation or destroying the unproven WMD certainly do not count), then the pro-"regime change"'s argument is that much stronger, that much more justifiable morally. Hell, I would even be swayed. Central to the issue is "what government" and "how likely". These questions weren't even asked during the buildup towards war, let alone answered.

A surgeon may not be able to save every patient's life, or account for all possible consequences. BUT, she doesn't go cutting things up without having an idea of what to do, what the side-effects may be, how to minimize the side-effects. AND, if the procedure is too dangerous, knowing to seek alternative avenues of treatment wherever available. We should be past the age when trepanning and bloodletting were deemed acceptable medical procedures.
Apr 23rd, 2003 05:25 PM
ItalianStereotype the next person who says this war was about oil we be violently sodomized with a lubeless boomstick.

dammit

anyway, i must admit that i did not expect the level of hypocrisy that we have seen from the iraqi people. if they begin establishing training camps and funding terrorism, you can sure as hell bet that we will "lather, rinse, repeat." this damned campaign is getting stickier with each passing day, but i feel that we must see it through. if we don't, it will be like mogadishu all over again.
Apr 23rd, 2003 05:01 PM
FS Careful what you say, Vince. There's still no proof of WMD found in Iraq... if none are found, that more or less means this war was just a huge waste of money at the American taxpayers' expense. And if there's one thing that grinds your sack... huh? huh?

Oh no, wait. This war was actually about oil all along. You just said it wasn't to shoot down everybody's bleeding-heart sentiment.
Apr 23rd, 2003 03:48 PM
mburbank Wow, Vince, color me surprised. I was totally convinced by your pasionate speech about the 'rape rooms' and the iraqi children who'd watched their parents die. I really believed that in your black little heart you believed that the sufering visited upn them by our bombs was worth it so that one day they might live free.

I have to say I'm shocked to find you couldn't care less. Really, really shocked. Seriously. Who knows what else might have been just a clever stance to 'smash' us 'dumbfuck liberals'?

Next thing you know we'll find out you never had a submarine letter, never tried to get into the army, never studied to be a priest. Who knows what's true with you Vince? You've really lost credability with me. It's almost as if your some kind of pathalogical liar.

Or just a numb tit who says any old moronic thing when he's worked up.
Apr 23rd, 2003 03:16 PM
VinceZeb For me, it was about the WMD. The freedom deal was just a convinent way to smash you dumbfuck liberals who always whined about how you are for "human rights" and "against facisim".
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