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|Apr 28th, 2006 10:13 AM|
The Campaign to Bring Back the Cathoilc Samurai Website. Because no-one is saying what needs to be said anymore.
|Apr 28th, 2006 08:27 AM|
|Apr 25th, 2006 09:58 AM|
"The website you have requested has been cancelled."
-Catholic Thamurai, Thaying what needth to be thaid.
|Apr 25th, 2006 08:55 AM|
|Apr 24th, 2006 03:05 PM|
Not only is this not news, it's also just another example of the modern style of misleading pseudo-journalism. Max, you already know that the CIA doesn't submit every little bit of intelligence they turn up to the White House. They process it all, cull through it and submit briefs. There was intelligence from many sources that indicated that Iraq had no WMDs, and there was intelligence saying just the opposite, and there was intelligence that was completely inconclusive.
Saddam was playing a very dangerous game, much like Iran is now, and much like Hitler did before WWII. In fact, there are many examples in history of that sort of sabre-rattling being employed in order to provoke a reaction one way or another. In any society, there are those that would prefer a peaceful solution to any conflict above all else, but in a democratic society, those voices get to be heard, which causes debate and sows discontent within the nations that are most likely to respond.
Chamberlain helped Hitler, but there was no such voice to temper Bush's response. There appears to be a pretty strong pre-opposition in this country against any form of force being used on Iran, but there's not yet any Democrat with the balls to be the voice of that oppostion as Chamberlain did, most likely for fear of being proven wrong and being remembered as Chamberlain is for being so.
Had a Democrat stood up to oppose Bush's run up to war in Iraq, the Democratic Party would have gained from this sort of "news" as well as much of the other more real mistakes revealed by the war. None of them did, at least not in any substantial way, and so this stuff becomes anti-Bush instead of pro-Democrat. Is there a Democrat today willing to step up to the plate and meet with the mullahs?
|Apr 24th, 2006 01:30 PM|
|Emu||I nominate "Ring of Fire" as this administration's themesong.|
|Apr 24th, 2006 01:21 PM|
|Apr 24th, 2006 12:50 PM|
Yet MORE evidence administration Lied about WMD
CIA Warned Bush of No Weapons in Iraq
Saturday 22 April 2006
Washington - The CIA had evidence Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction six months before the 2003 US-led invasion but was ignored by a White House intent on ousting Saddam Hussein, a former senior CIA official said according to CBS.
Tyler Drumheller, who headed CIA covert operations in Europe during the run-up to the Iraq war, said intelligence opposing administration claims of a WMD threat came from a top Iraqi official who provided the US spy agency with other credible information.
The source "told us that there were no active weapons of mass destruction programs," Drumheller said in a CBS interview to be aired on Sunday on the network's news magazine, "60 Minutes."
"The (White House) group that was dealing with preparation for the Iraq war came back and said they were no longer interested," he was quoted as saying in interview excerpts released by CBS on Friday.
"We said: 'Well, what about the intel?' And they said: 'Well, this isn't about intel anymore. This is about regime change'," added Drumheller, whose CIA operation was assigned the task of debriefing the Iraqi official.
He was the latest former US official to accuse the White House of setting an early course toward war in Iraq and ignoring intelligence that conflicted with its aim.
CBS said the CIA's intelligence source was former Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri and that former CIA Director George Tenet delivered the information personally to President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top White House officials in September 2002. They rebuffed the CIA three days later.
"The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy," the former CIA agent told CBS.