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Jan 5th, 2008 02:33 PM
El Blanco
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Originally Posted by Geggy View Post
i see you have questions of your own. welcome to the club BEEEEYYYATCH!
Yes, but I'm going to let qualified professionals that can show their work answer them rather than some ass monkey with a webcam.
Jan 4th, 2008 02:28 PM
Dr. Boogie
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Originally Posted by Geggy View Post
Do you even know what the word "conspiracy" means or do I have to dissect it for you?
I would like to hear your definition of "conspiracy". It would certainly be a welcome change of pace from your usual routine of declaring an event a conspiracy and then calling Kevin/Blanco/anyone else who doubts it a tool of the Man.


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is the word conspiracy a code word for "outrageous and impossible!" to you?
No, the code word for that is "geggy".
Jan 4th, 2008 01:39 PM
Geggy i see you have questions of your own. welcome to the club BEEEEYYYATCH!
Jan 4th, 2008 01:36 PM
El Blanco
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Originally Posted by Geggy View Post
i bet you didnt know the gun was found at the crime scene before i posted the picture which is rare and unknown to many. i think of it more as being stupid and lazy when it comes to controlling the information that can and cannot be released to the public. thank god for the internet am i right
A gun was found at the crime scene. Or rather that AP picture you posted (ya rare and unknown my ass) is of a gun found at the crime scene. Was it the only gun? Was it the gun of the assassin? Had it been fired? How can you positively identify its type?
Jan 4th, 2008 01:17 PM
Geggy
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So you're saying that just about anything could be a conspiracy, and there's little chance to disprove it?
It depends who were in on the conspiracy. Do you even know what the word "conspiracy" means or do I have to dissect it for you? is the word conspiracy a code word for "outrageous and impossible!" to you?
Jan 4th, 2008 11:52 AM
AlliSabbah Everythings a conspiracy. You yeah you stop looking at me! What are you hiding? Oh no the microchip in my brains beeping again. That means they have found me! Gotta think Gotta THINK! What would Lee majors do?
Jan 4th, 2008 11:46 AM
Dr. Boogie So you're saying that just about anything could be a conspiracy, and there's little chance to disprove it? Not even with pictures that are "rare and unknown to many"?
Jan 4th, 2008 10:49 AM
Geggy
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Originally Posted by mburbank View Post
I'm not saying that makes the argument true. It's not wild conspiracy theory either.
anything we say would be a conspiracy theory until a thorough investigation has taken place and everything has been resolved...which would probably be never.
Jan 4th, 2008 10:47 AM
Geggy
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Originally Posted by El Blanco View Post
Ya, if I'm a high level government official ordering an assassination, I'm going to use a method so easily traced back to me, the basement confined mongoloids on the internet will spot it.

You think he got to his position by being stupid and lazy?
i bet you didnt know the gun was found at the crime scene before i posted the picture which is rare and unknown to many. i think of it more as being stupid and lazy when it comes to controlling the information that can and cannot be released to the public. thank god for the internet am i right
Jan 3rd, 2008 07:55 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by El Blanco View Post
You think he got to his position by being stupid and lazy?
no, it's just an effect of every government position in pakistan. you guys thing that musharaf wants to hold on to power forever, but he really just doesn't feel like moving his stuff around.

thanks for the well wishes guys.
Jan 3rd, 2008 02:09 PM
El Blanco The only thing that bugs me about that is how it would sit with the guys actually on protection detail. They'd be understaffed for the purpose of getting blown up. I can't imagine they'd be too happy with their bosses.
Jan 3rd, 2008 12:41 PM
mburbank Or we could say that the govt. knew (as did everyone) that Bhutto was a target and simply reduced protections until her assasination became likely.

It makes delaying the election a responsible move, it makes the extremists Mushariff uses to justify crack downs look even more dangerous, it causes the oposition party to riot making them a danger to law and order and it removes Mushariffs most capable opponent from the table.

I'm not saying that makes the argument true. It's not wild conspiracy theory either.
Jan 3rd, 2008 11:37 AM
El Blanco Or we could say that the Pakistani government made it look like the gun was planted so they could make it looked like they were framed. Those devious bastards.
Jan 3rd, 2008 09:18 AM
AlliSabbah If we really want to be paranoid we could say that someone planted that gun in order to frame the Pakistani government.
Jan 3rd, 2008 08:39 AM
El Blanco
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The gun in the picture which I posted was identified as steyr m9, commonly concealed by the pakistani special forces division under the directions of the "former" general musharraf and the isi.
Ya, if I'm a high level government official ordering an assassination, I'm going to use a method so easily traced back to me, the basement confined mongoloids on the internet will spot it.

You think he got to his position by being stupid and lazy?
Jan 3rd, 2008 06:07 AM
Geggy You know that gay old saying "its not the crime that kills you, its the coverup". Well the gay old saying could may very well apply to the pakistan government because they're backtracking on everything which would indicate theyre trying to cover their asses. The gun in the picture which I posted was identified as steyr m9, commonly concealed by the pakistani special forces division under the directions of the "former" general musharraf and the isi. So its not so crazy to suspect the government's involvement of the assassination. Afterall they did have a lot to benefit from it, like the postponed election in whcih strongly supported bhutto had better chance of winning. Man your teenage kids are going to be lucky to have you as their dad, getting away with everything and all.

By the way what's your obsession with the jews?
Jan 3rd, 2008 12:46 AM
ItalianStereotype YOU CONVINCED ME GEGGY IT WAS DA EBIL US JEW GUBMENT

the pakistani government is backtracking from that position geggy, but I really don't see your point in this! do you ever have one?
Jan 2nd, 2008 11:35 PM
Geggy
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Originally Posted by AlliSabbah View Post
Thats if they have a gun or guns to match it to.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slides...9976d06b7c210/



I'm still not clear why the pakistan government would insist that bhutto's death was caused by severe head impact on the sunroof from shockwave from the bombing. How could they come to this conclusion if the autopsy on her body was denied when there are most conclusive evidence that bhutto took one in the head even before the blast? Something still stinks.
Jan 2nd, 2008 05:46 PM
Tadao
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Originally Posted by El Blanco View Post
Scru, its great that your family is back OK.
secondeded
Jan 2nd, 2008 05:26 PM
AlliSabbah Thats if they have a gun or guns to match it to.
Jan 2nd, 2008 02:34 PM
MLE No, but it's so commonly done today that they could have a match within days, in most cases.
Jan 2nd, 2008 02:29 PM
AlliSabbah
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Originally Posted by MLE View Post
Each gun leave ballistic markings on the bullets. They're as unique as fingerprints. Using a gun that takes standard ammo makes no difference whatsoever.
My meaning was that they would have to have the gun to match it with and with so many guns that use the same ammo it would not be an easy task.
Jan 2nd, 2008 01:59 PM
El Blanco Scru, its great that your family is back OK.

Yes, the autopsy would tell you the gun that was used. So what, Geggy? You wouldn't accept the answers. If it does jibe with a lone gunman working for a terrorist group, you'd just assume that since it was done by the government, they are lying.

I'd say you can get a lot more info from the body of the gunman than hers.

You've made your decision. I'm sure you can quote from American Free Press or soemwhere tp "prove" your theory about George Bush and Israel doing this.

All that said, I think they should permit the autopsy, but I'm not going to jump at shadows over it.
Jan 2nd, 2008 12:47 PM
MLE Each gun leave ballistic markings on the bullets. They're as unique as fingerprints. Using a gun that takes standard ammo makes no difference whatsoever.
Jan 2nd, 2008 12:34 PM
AlliSabbah
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Originally Posted by Geggy View Post
wouldnt an autospy be a crucial part of an investigation and help find the lead to the assassin by matching the bullet to a gun? an autopsy is mandatory under pakistan's criminal law in this type of case anyway. but if you want to be disinterested in the truth and blindly believe that al-qaeda evil doers did it without any shred of evidence, then be my guest.
I do believe the assassin blew himself up right in front of everyone. Not a whole lot of mystery there.

Not to mention to match a bullet to a gun you first need a gun and a link as to how it would be there since many guns use the same type of ammo.
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