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|Mar 24th, 2003 12:28 PM|
|VinceZeb||Yes and no. Christians who turn atheists were usually not real good Christians to begin with. But I regonize and agree somewhat with the point.|
|Mar 24th, 2003 12:17 PM|
[quote="VinceZeb"] He changed his views after he saw what the left did. quote]
Thats like being a Christian and turning atheist because of people like Fred Phelps.
|Mar 24th, 2003 10:49 AM|
David Horowitz is a great example for information. Dude, he used to be THE man when it came to the vietnam war opposition. He was one of the grandfathers of the current leftist movement. Fuck, the guy was a Black Panther or had deep association with them. He changed his views after he saw what the left did. Hell, so did Tammy Bruce, the chick that used to lead up NOW.
Amazing however how you dont hear about major right-wing guys that actually did something turn left.
|Mar 24th, 2003 03:08 AM|
Chomsky is to Limbaugh.....
What Ranxer is to Ronnie.
|Mar 24th, 2003 02:21 AM|
While I do believe that this man does have legitmate criticisms of Chomsky, his overall goal appears not to be pointing out flaws in Chomsky's thesises, but rather smearing both Chomsky and the left as a whole.
Chomsky, like all the rest of us, is not to be placed above criticism. But dismissing everything he has to say based soley on certain flaws in his writings isn't right.
|Mar 23rd, 2003 03:58 PM|
David Horowitz holds little credibility, considering the way his views on things have flip flopped around. He is OBSESSED with Noam Chomsky.
I only read his article, will read the others later, though.
|Mar 23rd, 2003 03:29 PM|
Well, I'll bring up the main point about good ol' Noam: His doctorate is in question because of the junk science he used to get his PH.D in linqustics
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=1020 - an example of Noam after 9/11
the second part
Just another little tidbig on Noamie
A bit on the failed linquistics of Noam
And thats enough for right now. Got them all from the same site but different authors published them.
whoops, for got this one: http://www.techcentralstation.com/10...D=1051-062602C
|Mar 23rd, 2003 02:17 PM|
|Mar 23rd, 2003 01:56 PM|
Look, Said is a bit extreme for my taste, but like others, he has the intelligence and strong writing ability to make very valid points and observations.
Zinn: Yeah, a New Leftist, but knows his history.
Chomsky: Similar to Said, but I feel that for what Chomsky lacks in personal theory, he makes up for in data and numbers. You get a perspective that few others will talk about, mainly because they refuse to, or can't.
|Mar 23rd, 2003 01:52 PM|
|VinceZeb||If you actually researched both sides of the argument, you would find out that yes, they have been dismissed as moronic. Hell, even Chomsky's doctorate should be taken back because of the junk science he used to get it in linquistics.|
|Mar 23rd, 2003 01:38 PM|
|ranxer||Bwhaha, slander and lies are the only thing that's ever been aimed at Zinn and Chomsky .. repeating that they have been discredited does not make it true.. i havnt heard any 'credible' sources say much against them, just rush limbaugh wannabe's spouting what you said.. 'they're discredited' they don't often go into anything more than that.|
|Mar 23rd, 2003 01:03 PM|
Just a small bit of advice: If you want liberal views to be looked at and respected, please... PLEASE don’t reference Said, Zinn, or Chomsky. These people have been proven time and time again to be liars and out of touch of reality. I'll read anything that my political opposition says but come on.... serious.
I love counterpunch. Especially the 100% union labor clothes. Because as we all know, unions are the greatest thing ever in society. Especially since they bankrupt the airline industry.
|Mar 23rd, 2003 01:25 AM|
Edward Said: The Other America