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| Jul 20th, 2005 05:15 PM | |||
| kellychaos |
We're all like circus mirrors. A perfect relflection of all that came before us except for the silly refraction that represents our will. They're only lies because no one has the intellectual capacity to include all the sets and subsets of information, events, ect that have gone into making present-day you which have been clouded over by a millenia of time. I'm not saying that a person isn't culpable to a degree for his personality. What I'm saying is that he is mostly non-culpable. |
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| Jul 19th, 2005 05:44 PM | |||
| kahljorn |
Yea, that thing you posted was kind of pointless. Give another name and situation to a lie. It doesn't really matter if it's a lie or not, it was all in response to what you said. THEY"RE NOT LIES THEY'RE PEEERFEEECT REEETUUUURNS. I LOVE YOU BABY, LETS MAKE A PERFECT RETURN. *23 minutes later* "Welp, gotta go". And yes, most of what you are is defined by your surroundings. I mean, it's not like you're making your circumstances come to yourself. I guess therein lies the idea of karma(which is a rather big idea...). That was why i mentioned your family and government shafting you. |
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| Jul 19th, 2005 05:28 PM | |||
| kellychaos |
Quote:
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Personality based on about 5% will and 95% a series of incidental events ... assuming you believe in linear time. |
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| Jul 19th, 2005 05:22 PM | |||
| Helm | love my pussy, baby | ||
| Jul 19th, 2005 05:03 PM | |||
| kahljorn | Only you would blame the demiurge, you simpering pussy. | ||
| Jul 19th, 2005 11:58 AM | |||
| Helm | It's all the demiurge's fault | ||
| Jul 19th, 2005 11:36 AM | |||
| kahljorn |
Kelly: At some point in life you will probably realize everything you believe in was a series of lies you told to yourself so you could create a "personality". There may have been a few truths squeezed in there, but they are half truths. Just like every other truth. In fact, at least half of the person you call yourself is based on being bullied in school and gutted by the government, along with the various lies your friends and family have told you(NOT PA!!). You could almost say your personality is built on lies and deceit. Isn't it great? |
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| Jul 18th, 2005 05:25 PM | |||
| kellychaos | It all comes down to probability based on past sensory experience. The sun may just NOT come out tommorow. It's all mathematics. Life is mathematics, friends. You heard here first! | ||
| Jul 17th, 2005 12:42 PM | |||
| Emu |
i have 
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| Jul 17th, 2005 12:32 PM | |||
| Helm | taken a class? no, fag. | ||
| Jul 17th, 2005 05:11 AM | |||
| Sethomas | So. Never taken a class on or studied syllogism, eh? | ||
| Jul 13th, 2005 08:18 PM | |||
| kahljorn |
Y=kahl is suicidal Kahl happiness=yes I win! Let's play again! |
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| Jul 13th, 2005 06:29 PM | |||
| kellychaos | If train A is leaving westbound from Station 1 at 25 mph and train B is leaving eastbound from station 2 at 30 mph and train B horrendously mangles Kahl because of his pathetic misunderstanding of algebra, would he be happy? | ||
| Jul 13th, 2005 06:15 PM | |||
| kahljorn | Algebra will make you happy! | ||
| Jul 13th, 2005 05:47 PM | |||
| Helm | I'm really entertaining thoughts of pragmatism lately. | ||
| Jul 13th, 2005 04:56 PM | |||
| kellychaos | It would be extremely frustrating to go my whole life on a quest of the ultimate form of happiness (metaphysical?) only to find that whatever it was, I wasn't that. I would not be happy, no sir! Pragmatism? | ||
| Jul 12th, 2005 06:25 PM | |||
| Helm | I was thinking of posting the exact thing, sadie | ||
| Jul 12th, 2005 06:00 PM | |||
| sadie | and possibly anal. | ||
| Jul 12th, 2005 05:03 PM | |||
| kellychaos |
Re: Happiness in the modern world Quote:
Are we talking happiness in our station in life, our view of ourselves, a feeling of acceptanctance/love of others, a feeling of comfort/safety be it from material possesions or otherwise, ect? This could all spiral downhill into arguments of semantics without really make any true in-roads into what happiness means. |
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| Jul 12th, 2005 11:54 AM | |||
| kahljorn |
Happiness and sadness are caused by too many variables. One person could've "lost their son in the war 30 years ago" and offed themselves, while another would've become a freedom fighter and bombed some government building, while another could've just moved on with their life. So you might be tempted to try to take that single persons suicide and group it with other suicides that generally share the same scenario(not everyone reacts the same) to try to derive some common factor. The only issue with that is, "Not everyone reacts the same". You can't isolate some single principle, because it's not some single principle. It might, at some token, be that they are sad with their existance(and that's such a blanket statement, you could say that about ANYONE, why do puppies cry? They are sad about their existence), but again, some people are sad with their existence and chose to move on. Essentially, there is no blanket statement you could give in an argument like this that would make any sense whatsoever if you were considering all angles, which any reasonably intelligent person should be doing. Good day. |
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| Jul 12th, 2005 12:15 AM | |||
| sadie | i'm refusing to edit that w out. to repress my anal tendencies toward such things. | ||
| Jul 12th, 2005 12:14 AM | |||
| sadie | as far as the augustine "madness" theory goes, maybe it's at leawst in part about a desire for the life of greatest ease. if you're a smoker in a room full of non-smokers, you're likely in for a load of crap piled on your plate if you even mention the fact that you smoke. expectations and not feeling up to or not wanting to withstanding the tumultuous waves of dischord. i've seen it in myself with my parents. | ||
| Jul 11th, 2005 08:43 PM | |||
| Sethomas |
What I basically meant by "external influences" is any stimulus that provokes thinking or actions inconsistent with the brain's usual activity. I guess the fundamental point is that most cases of clinical depression are not external influences, since they reflect the nature of the mind itself. If you go into a line of infinite causations, then ultimately EVERYTHING has roots in external causes, but I think it's easy enough to know when to draw the line. This provokes the question, why are depressed people so much more visible now, and why are they killing themselves? On the general question of "madness", it's been my assumption that until the Victorian Era or so most people who were "mad" simply found ways to blend in with their society, unto the point of their being batshit insane. Perhaps violent crimes were more prevalent because of this; it wouldn't be surprising, but I haven't seen statistics either way. An interesting statement that Augustine posed is that "Man would rather be unhappy and sane than joyful and mad". I've always wondered if that's the case for myself. |
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| Jul 11th, 2005 07:57 PM | |||
| kahljorn |
You guys talk about stupid shit. Seriously. How do you know how animals think and feel, none the less a human being. Psychology isn't as simple as smiley faces and sad faces.  << Does that explain anything? No.
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| Jul 11th, 2005 06:32 PM | |||
| Helm | Emu, what are you doing | ||
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