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Apr 6th, 2007 01:27 AM
noob3 I think MOST people will believe that the Venom suit comes from space, because alot of little kids watched the cartoon but did not read the comic. After the movie, I am assuming this will increase by like x1000 :o
Apr 5th, 2007 10:47 PM
Girl Drink Drunk CAPTAIN AMERICA'S BEEN TORN APART. NOW HE'S A COURT JESTER WITH A BROKEN HEART
........Sorry, I coudn't resist quoting that.
Mar 28th, 2007 05:05 AM
Mjcool Isn't the new Spider-Man movie using the cartoon's symbiote/Venom orgin as well, since Secret Wars would cost about a billion fucking dollars to make?

Just saying...get ready to jack your co-worker in the face in a stupidity-induced fury.
Mar 16th, 2007 10:54 PM
JohhnyDamage I can see him being dumb. He's very much a hillbilly.
Mar 15th, 2007 09:41 PM
Zomboid Well then he's dumb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Wars#Other_Media
Mar 15th, 2007 09:29 PM
JohhnyDamage Not what he said. Robby, J. Jonah's son brought back the symbiotic suit with him from a space mission. He told me that's how it happens. I dared to question/correct him so he'd sound less retarded.
Mar 15th, 2007 06:36 PM
Zomboid Pretty sure secret wars did happen on that cartoon.
Mar 14th, 2007 10:22 PM
JohhnyDamage
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It's more about the characters themselves and the writers who make their stories. Hulk is marvel's main super strong guy. He gets beaten from time to time, but he's almost always more or less the strongest well known character. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets, and that's how it's always been.
That's a good point, but we can all agree it would be a fight on bad ass levels.

Nothing like a good comic debate. God knows no one I work with reads comics. One guy that does says "Wolverine is unstoppable. He could wipe the Marvel Universe pretty much." All of his comic EXP is from Saturday cartoon, video games, and the Spiderman/X Men movies. So he tries telling me Spiderman first got the symbiotic suit from a space shuttle (The cartoon says that he said. And he denies Secret Wars actually happened, because it wasn't on the cartoon.)

Sorry about that one post, had a bad day lol.
Mar 14th, 2007 03:25 PM
Zomboid It's a side of me that my friends will never see :O
Mar 14th, 2007 01:36 PM
Protoclown NERRRRRRRD FIIIIIIGHT!!!!!
Mar 14th, 2007 08:42 AM
Zomboid It's more about the characters themselves and the writers who make their stories. Hulk is marvel's main super strong guy. He gets beaten from time to time, but he's almost always more or less the strongest well known character. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets, and that's how it's always been.

A while ago, I took a look in the marvel ultimate alliance forum on gamefaqs for help in a part of the game and there was a thread there about superman vs thor. THAT was a long debate.

PS- Superman > Thor
Mar 14th, 2007 04:22 AM
Spectre X Thor is powerful, I never said that he wasn't. Asgardians, however, are still in general on the lower end of the power scale on average. The Eternals are much, much more powerful in general than the Asgardians.

And the Eternals aren't gods. They're genetically engineered superbeings who can manipulate matter at the atomic level and posess immortality and incredible endurance, strength and durability.

Thor gets his power from his heritage, true, but so does Superman, and he's not a god. Also, while he gets his powers from his heritage, Thor is much, much more powerful than the average Asgardian god. Balder isn't even close to being as strong as him, for instance. Balder isn't even as strong as the Thing, who's fairly strong for Marvel standards but not one of the major contenders, once again. Namor gets his power from his heritage, and he's not a god, and Namor has been known to actuelly regularly beat up the Hulk. There's also Gladiator, a Strontian, who is able to beat a full-powered Juggernaut with laughable ease, a feat Thor has never managed to pull off.

Thor is not stronger than the Hulk in general. The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.

Hell, Thor had his ass beaten by Beta Ray Bill, who was just a cyborg supersoldier. Being a god doesn't mean very much in Marvel comics.
Mar 11th, 2007 09:41 PM
JohhnyDamage
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For the love of fucking god, being a "god" means nothing in terms of power or ability, okay? It just means that you are from a race of gods, such as the Asgardians or Olympians. Most Asgardians are actually on the lower end of the superpowered scale, while still being gods.
All I'm saying is in the "What If? Hulk Went Berserk" Hulk hits his limit and is filled with a blind rage. He beats the Thing and kills him, kills Human Torch, then crushes Iron Man. He then starts squeezing Thor in a bear hug. Thor overpowers him physically (without using his hammer) and then kills him by snapping his neck. If Thor can not only manage to overpower the Hulk but then be able to kill him, well, that's good enough for me. God I love that fish.

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For the love of fucking god, being a "god" means nothing in terms of power or ability, okay?
http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_%28Thor_Odinson%29 That shows his superpowers, and benefits being a God does do for him after all.

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Asgardians are actually on the lower end of the superpowered scale
Each race is different and intelligent, but the most powerful race is that of the Gods. Taking that off of the Marvel website. http://marvel.com/universe/Asgardians

Not trying to start a fight, I'm just defending my claim.
Mar 11th, 2007 04:26 PM
Emu Oh good, a theme character.
Mar 11th, 2007 04:02 PM
LOBSTER The only good human is a dead human.
Mar 11th, 2007 03:17 PM
Zomboid Thanks. I was about to post something along those lines but you saved me the trouble.

In the marvel universe, there's pretty much never anyone stronger than hulk. It's the same as Superman in DC. There's always times when there's someone who's supposed to be just as powerful if not more so, but then they get beaten because they're classic characters who were built up to be the strongest.
Mar 10th, 2007 07:58 PM
Spectre X
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Spider Man is back in the black suit, if I remember right.




Nope, Thor could kill him. On an alternate world, Hulk was berserk and Thor snapped his neck. Thor is stronger, is a God, and has that god damn hammer. According to Marvel Universe at least.
For the love of fucking god, being a "god" means nothing in terms of power or ability, okay? It just means that you are from a race of gods, such as the Asgardians or Olympians. Most Asgardians are actually on the lower end of the superpowered scale, while still being gods.
Mar 9th, 2007 11:56 PM
Girl Drink Drunk Where were YOU when Captain America died?
Mar 9th, 2007 07:52 PM
JohhnyDamage
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they should have peter parker in the captain america suit cuz he assfucked his own disguise.
Spider Man is back in the black suit, if I remember right.


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Hulk would fuck thor up even on a happy day :O
Nope, Thor could kill him. On an alternate world, Hulk was berserk and Thor snapped his neck. Thor is stronger, is a God, and has that god damn hammer. According to Marvel Universe at least.
Mar 9th, 2007 06:17 PM
Zomboid Hulk would fuck thor up even on a happy day :O
Mar 9th, 2007 06:07 PM
VolCanon they should have peter parker in the captain america suit cuz he assfucked his own disguise.
Mar 9th, 2007 05:57 PM
JohhnyDamage
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Thor's return will probably be the climax of World War Hulk. Probably a new human will pick the hammer and defeating the Hulk will probably be his baptism by fire.
Jesus Blanco, you excited me. I'll pray to a God that happens.
Mar 9th, 2007 05:49 PM
Protoclown Yeah, the return of Thor is really the only one I can think of right now that I'm looking forward to. Hopefully they won't lame it up like his "return" in Civil War.
Mar 9th, 2007 04:48 PM
El Blanco Thor's return will probably be the climax of World War Hulk. Probably a new human will pick the hammer and defeating the Hulk will probably be his baptism by fire.
Mar 9th, 2007 04:44 PM
JohhnyDamage
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Frank Castle sucks.
Yes. Yes he does.

Also think of the long shot odds that the government would say "Yes Mr. Punisher, you can wear the Captain America uniform." Since it's still property of the US Government. (Like when Captain America was stripped of the title and it was given to US Agent.)

Omega Flight can have US Agent. I don't know why I hate him so much. Maybe it was the whole Cap America thing way back when.

Proto, anyone you want to see come back to the Marvel U? I'm hoping for Thor come back this summer and fight the Hulk. Got to love the classic match-ups.
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