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| Mar 6th, 2004 06:29 PM | |||
| Helm |
Practicality should not be the determining factor of morality, since morality determines action, not the other way around. Comes first Hm... Whether said action is 'practical' or not should not be a determining factor. In that utilitarianism suggests the opposite (well, generally speaking. it does consider practicality a decisive factor nonetheless), Nietszcgsdhe found much to be disgusted at, understandably. Utilitarianism has right what proves beneficial for the majority. Utilitarianism thinks the best what is best for the most. And we have nietscxdgfdhwe who stresses how the difficult stuff in life (pain, uncomfortableness) are very important in making life something worth living. Pain is sort of a failsafe for any philosophy or knowledge, in testing. Sort of a no pain no gain thing. Nietscdghne's own morality is based on moral abstraction. His 'virtues' are detached from circumstance and do not fail to apply if they're too difficult or too painful or whatever. In that I completely agree with him since I consider awareness and undertsanding to be more important that wellbeing. In the other hand, a society fails to achieve the basic educational foundation so as to be aware if it's not at least generally content, materially... but I doubt nitesfsdgfhche cared at all for how his morality were to be applied massively. |
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| Mar 5th, 2004 10:27 PM | |||
| The_Rorschach | Oooh oooh oooh! I'm going to get an Einstein quote from home before I respond to this one. I actually know the answer for once! | ||
| Mar 5th, 2004 08:19 PM | |||
| theapportioner |
I kinda got sidetracked with a ton of work at lab, but I'm almost finished. Might as well get something started. What, IYO, is Nietszche's rationale for criticizing utilitarianism as a moral theory? How is it different from classical morality? Thoughts? |
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| Mar 5th, 2004 06:59 PM | |||
| Helm |
Through The Sumer fields I ride My Beacon of Silver Light A fertile Crescent The Bearer of Plague Under iron rule (of) Patriarchs of christ I refuse their poison Crucifix Will Fall For Centuries they?ll Crawl Parched with the search for wisdom Drowned in their holy lies The Dusk of theology Never dawns to man Bread of the cult of the dead Wine of the cult of the dead In the court prepared Crescentian... Tear down the sun from heavens Set Ablaze Our Mercury Hearts A Satanic Millenium The Era of... Rend their robes Asunder Bombard the temples Leave Not stone upon stone Like A Scythe We Will Reap!!! And rejoice Crescentian Night |
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| Mar 3rd, 2004 06:54 PM | |||
| The_Rorschach | Yeah but Helm, Niezche works were all written originally in German. I mean, not everyone can be a Louis Silverstien. | ||
| Mar 3rd, 2004 10:14 AM | |||
| Zhukov |
I was planning to read it, and pretend I knew what I was doing. Couldn't be stuffed though. The last couple of posts in this thread are a real hoot. |
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| Mar 3rd, 2004 07:41 AM | |||
| Helm |
I read the whole thing again. 
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| Mar 2nd, 2004 09:29 PM | |||
| Triad-Brother Choi |
I take the silence from everyone as a sign that you've all done as much reading as I have for this. Namely none. Which is a shame as I certainly launched myself at the text at first with much verve & interest. Your Triad Friend, Choi. |
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| Feb 11th, 2004 05:48 AM | |||
| Helm | Right. | ||
| Feb 10th, 2004 08:13 PM | |||
| theapportioner | An extension's fine. Maybe like the end of February? | ||
| Feb 9th, 2004 01:21 PM | |||
| Triad-Brother Choi |
I am in the middle, & quite perplexed. An extension would be most auspicious. Thank You. |
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| Feb 9th, 2004 01:05 PM | |||
| Helm | Give it another 30 days then? I haven't finished rereading either. | ||
| Feb 7th, 2004 10:15 PM | |||
| theapportioner | I haven't even started reading it yet!! | ||
| Feb 7th, 2004 05:30 AM | |||
| Helm | Nietchgrhgjkege being the total art fag that he is, finishes off Beyond good and Evil with a poem of his. And it sucks. And we're not discussing it. Ever. | ||
| Feb 6th, 2004 03:45 PM | |||
| Triad-Brother Choi |
Song? I fear I may be the butt of a joke, but I'm unclear as to what 'song' you refer. :/ |
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| Feb 4th, 2004 11:43 PM | |||
| Helm | Triad: yes, that is the text. Save for the silly song at the end. We're not discussing the song. We're definately not discussing the song. | ||
| Feb 1st, 2004 04:28 PM | |||
| Perndog | Any debatable statement with a definite subject ("Revolt...") is interpreted as a statement of opinion ("I think revolt...") so we use definite subjects to save space and add clarity. The first thing an English professor will tell you to do is to drop the words "I think" from your essays. You should be taking that class in a few years now. | ||
| Feb 1st, 2004 03:35 PM | |||
| Brandon |
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| Feb 1st, 2004 03:15 PM | |||
| Triad-Brother Choi |
Nice wordplay.  But if you actually understood what Brandon is trying to tell you, you'd realise that Camus has a very specific audience in mind for his writing, & that in this case "I think revolt..." & "Revolt..." are the same. 
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| Feb 1st, 2004 03:07 PM | |||
| The One and Only... | I've read some Camus, and he seems to affirm that revolt has an objective meaning from the way he writes. He does not say that "I think revolt...", he says "Revolt...". Get what I'm saying? | ||
| Feb 1st, 2004 03:04 PM | |||
| Brandon |
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The intentions of his writings are to: A) find a way out of nihilism and despair B) affirm human life in the here and now C) deal with the Absurd without resorting to spirituality or attempting to "transcend" it |
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| Feb 1st, 2004 02:52 PM | |||
| The One and Only... | Then why does he critique other people's values? | ||
| Feb 1st, 2004 02:47 PM | |||
| Brandon |
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Oh, and you can read Beyond Good and Evil for free online here. |
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| Feb 1st, 2004 11:58 AM | |||
| Triad-Brother Choi |
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| Feb 1st, 2004 10:23 AM | |||
| The One and Only... |
A question for Camus: If there are no values, what is the value in revolt? |
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