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May 2nd, 2003 05:52 PM
Cap'n Crunch
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Originally Posted by soundtest
I'm a little bitter that they released the SP and aren't offering some sort of trade-in option,
They did release a trade-in option. It was at Gamestop when the SP first came out. You traded in your GBA and you paid 40 bucks. I think there was a free game they gave you. So, if you would have caught it earlier, you could have traded it in. I am waiting for the GBA to GC attachment, because I am not really an on the go person.
May 2nd, 2003 12:54 PM
MrAdventure I've only had two issues with my GBA:

1. The screen has absolutely no scratch resistance.

2. Speaker placement.

Fuck it, however, as I'm enough of a homebody to warrant picking up the GBA-GC Player when it hits.

As for the major console wars, I lost interest when SEGA gave up. Reminds me of that commercial comparing game libraries between the SNES and the Genesis, with the brick walls at the end. The war had class back then, now it's whack, yo.
May 2nd, 2003 12:51 PM
soundtest The GBA's lighting does suck. It's not as bad with newer games, but as the SP becomes standard, I wouldn't be surprised if future titles aren't designed with the original GBA's inferiority in mind.

I'm a little bitter that they released the SP and aren't offering some sort of trade-in option, but the real reason I think the whole thing is so shady is their timing: Nintendo announced the GBA SP the first week of January or something. I'd be a lot more pissed if I was one of those people who bought/received the GBA for Christmas and then found out a week later that the model that should've been released in the first place would be out shortly, and Nintendo kept hush hush about it just to milk the holiday season.

But all in all I don't think Nintendo's business practices are fucking the consumer up the ass more than any other corporation.
May 2nd, 2003 12:47 PM
whoreable gamecube costs 150 and comes with games.

And honesty I dont even think nintendo knew how to light the screen like they did on th sp. The sp basically copies the afterburner kit which came out ealier. I think they would have used this method before had they knew how to use it. They could have done a lit version like the game gear...but those screens use a lot more power.
May 2nd, 2003 12:39 PM
James It's obvious I'm not going to get either of you to understand. But I'll try one more time, and then we can move on.

The situation with the GBA/GBA SP bothers me because I feel I was mistreated as a loyal customer of Nintendo's. I bought the GBA around the time of it's release. And the fact that they're releasing a new system so soon that improves on a problem that should never have existed in the first place displeases me. If you want to consider that a hissyfit, then so be it. But it's my right as a consumer to decide what I like and don't like. It is my right to have a hissyfit. I paid $70 for a GBA, and I can't justify playing and addition $100 for what I feel is their mistake, and not mine.

As for lighting. My room has those bulbs that are supposed to last for like 20 years. That also means they're not as bright as normal ones. Maybe that attributes to the glare. Then again, maybe it's the fact that I own Super Mario Advance and Circle of the Moon (which is well-known to be hard as fuck to see). I'm sure other games have been made with this in mind. In fact, I know it has. But still, there are next to no games on the GBA I would want. And when it comes to spending $40, I'd rather buy something else than a GBA game that I may or may not be interested in.

On top of that, I don't have a job at the moment. I don't HAVE $100 to spend.

Tim. I said that I am sure there are game I'd like for GC. I'd very much be interested on Metroid, Zelda, and others. But there's not enough games for me to justify buying the system. That doesn't mean I don't like the titles before I even played them. That doesn't mean I have bad taste. It means I don't want to spend $200 on a system just for a number of games I can count on one hand.

End of story.
May 2nd, 2003 12:36 PM
whoreable Haha.

If the gba lighting is really a big deal to you get a light for it. But that obivously isnt the problem. You just hate nintendo pure and simple. Personally I hate them all equally, they are all trying to fuck the consumer. If you think sony or microsoft are any better than nintendo you are a fool.
May 2nd, 2003 12:25 PM
Mockery
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Originally Posted by Jamesman
Tell you what. If you go out and buy a GBA and GBA SP right now, then what you say will mean something, k?.
I would, but right now all my time is currently tied up with writing a complaint to the people at Lucky Charms for recently adding a wider variety of Marshmallows to their cereal then when I used to buy it. Greedy bastards just fucked up and now they want more of my money!

Boy oh boy, I'm gonna get those evil people!
May 2nd, 2003 12:18 PM
timrpgland
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Tim, please read what I wrote
Did you say something important that I missed? I read what you wrote.

Sure the GBA can be a pain in the ass to see in certain situations but if you have a lamp you should be able to see it fine as long as you angle it so the glare doesn't kill you. I have it nice at work since the lighting here is excellent but at home I just use a lamp.

If that is your big complaint, then yippy..... Uber-Whiner
May 2nd, 2003 12:10 PM
James
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Originally Posted by Mockery
And your writing a letter to Nintendo just screams "I'm Cheap. Give me a freebie."
Tell you what. If you go out and buy a GBA and GBA SP right now, then what you say will mean something, k?

Tim, please read what I wrote. And if you can see your GBA fine, good for you. But my room doesn't have lighting equal to daylight. And I really don't want to go sit on my porch to play Super Mario World.
May 2nd, 2003 12:09 PM
Mockery
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Originally Posted by timrpgland
If you judge games and consoles before playing, then your opinion is simply useless.
But he doesn't do that... the Gameboy Advance is strictly for SNES re-releases, remember? Fuck that portable little electro-turd, who needs it
May 2nd, 2003 12:05 PM
timrpgland Jamesman, I'm just saying that if you play Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, or Eternal Darkness and didn't think they were the shit, then there is something wrong with your taste. It's good gaming, not Nintendo "fanboyism." If you judge games and consoles before playing, then your opinion is simply useless.

The GBA has a bunch of games (I mean a bunch) to offer and loads of great titles so if you can't find games you like there, that's sad. I can see my GBA just fine.
May 2nd, 2003 11:55 AM
Mockery
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Originally Posted by Jamesman
So just because I don't like GC or GBA games, I have bad taste? That just screams "fanboy."
And your writing a letter to Nintendo just screams "I'm Cheap. Give me a freebie."
May 2nd, 2003 11:45 AM
James So just because I don't like GC or GBA games, I have bad taste? That just screams "fanboy."

To say it again: There are some games that I'm sure I would enjoy. But there's not enough for the GC that would justify me buying one. And until I end up with a GBA SP, I'm not interested in any GBA games no matter how awesome they may be. I can't see my GBA, and I don't want to spend another $100 on a new GBA so soon.
May 2nd, 2003 10:48 AM
timrpgland I'd just like to know what kind of games you actually do like, Jamesman? If almost no GC or GBA games appeal to you, that isn't saying you have very good taste in games. Maybe you don't look for the good ones or make up your mind that they suck ahead of time. Not a good way to really evaluate the situation.
May 2nd, 2003 03:26 AM
James They'll at least try to satisfy a consumer, especially one who has given them so much business for well over 10 years.

I'm not saying they'll be, "You're right! From now on, we'll get rid of all these add-ons, and just go back to making games you can play in full without them!." But if they're at least halfway decent, and they value their customers (as any business should, if they want to stay IN business), they'll do something.

People these days fail to realize how much power there is in voicing your opinion. Instead, you guys just sit on your ass, and take whatever someone like Nintendo shoves up your ass.

Maybe if YOU write a letter, you'll get something in return too.
May 2nd, 2003 02:51 AM
Zomboid And I'm sure they'll straighten up and fly right after reading your dissapproving letter!
May 2nd, 2003 12:41 AM
James
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Originally Posted by Mockery
You know, if Nintendo doesn't give me a GBA SP in exchange for my original Gameboy, I'll never buy a Nintendo product again.
See, I know this is supposed to be a joke. But that funny part is nowhere to be found.

If that's what you wanna do, fine. But I still insist on writing a letter to Nintendo regarding my distaste for their practices. And if they want me to remain a consumer, I expect them to show SOME concern for the fact that I am no satisfied.
May 1st, 2003 11:54 PM
whoreable I swear to god if sony doesnt give me the small psone in exchange for my playstation I am gonna murder some bitches
May 1st, 2003 11:43 PM
Mockery -If Nintendo doesn't give me a GBA SP in exchange for my original, I'll never buy a Nintendo product again.

:hissyfit

You know, if Nintendo doesn't give me a GBA SP in exchange for my original Gameboy, I'll never buy a Nintendo product again.
May 1st, 2003 11:11 PM
James
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Originally Posted by whoreable
Dont you think that was a bit insensitive Mockery?
Nah, it's alright. I don't mind if Rog needs to reflect his own emotional problems onto me to make it seem like he's NOT the one throwing a hissy-fit.
May 1st, 2003 10:53 PM
Rongi The only thing about trading in an old GBA for a GBA SP is that nintendo would probably lose some big money on the deal, so I don't think it's going to happen
May 1st, 2003 10:53 PM
whoreable Dont you think that was a bit insensitive Mockery?
May 1st, 2003 10:50 PM
Mockery translation:

Bottom line:

May 1st, 2003 10:38 PM
James Bottom line:

-Next to no GC or GBA games appeal to me.
-I think all the addons for the GBA and GC are pointless pieces of crap, and a cheap way to try and squeeze some extra cash out of consumers.
-If Nintendo doesn't give me a GBA SP in exchange for my original, I'll never buy a Nintendo product again.
-I'm very happy with my PS2, and the games for it, which is more than I can say for the other systems.
-That's really all that matters.
May 1st, 2003 06:56 PM
Rongi Skulhedface, I used to think you where a moron, and now, it is confirmed that you are indeed, a complete and utter idiot .
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