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| Apr 3rd, 2003 04:15 PM | |||||||||
| mburbank |
BUMP Becuase Vince is such an air headed pussy, he can't reconcile these two statements! "Where in anything did I say that I, VinceZeb, want to destroy everything that has ever existed about Islam? Oh wait, I didn't!" and "Unless we wipe out every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind, this is a war we will never win." which is why he ran away like a huge diaper baby and has now returned pretending this never happened, only to paint himself into new corners. |
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| Apr 2nd, 2003 02:09 PM | |||||||||
| The_Rorschach |
We really are the good guys. I mean you must have heard what Lynch* went through as a POW of the Iraqi's. That violates the Geneva Convention in so many ways, its clear that the Iraqi army should be regarded with any honour whatsoever. *---- In reference to: NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of Defense No. 187-03 (703)697-5131(media) IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 1, 2003 (703)428-0711(public/industry) MISSING SOLDIER RESCUED The Department of Defense announced today that Pfc. Jessica D. Lynch, 19, of Palestine, W.Va., was recovered and returned to U.S. control as the result of a successful rescue mission. Lynch had been listed as listed as Duty Status Whereabouts Unknown following an ambush of her convoy by enemy forces on March 23. Lynch is assigned to the 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas. |
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| Apr 2nd, 2003 12:33 PM | |||||||||
| Protoclown |
I think you're losing sight of the big picture here, GASux. I mean, Ronnie knows that it's going to be over soon because obviously GOD is on our side, since we are the good guys and they are the bad guys. And Allah doesn't really exist (or at best is a twisted misinterpretation of THE REAL GOD), so obviously they are all going to be struck by lightning or some such as soon as we enter the city. |
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| Apr 2nd, 2003 12:30 AM | |||||||||
| GAsux |
Yeah Ronnie is full of poo poo. This thing will get worse before it gets better. You've got to be a fool to think that Baghdad will be easy. This is hardly over. In fact, in the eyes of the people fighting this war, it really hasn't even begun. Umm Qasar, Basra, and Nasiriyah we're AAA ball compared to what Baghdad will be. |
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| Apr 1st, 2003 12:05 PM | |||||||||
| mburbank |
Naldo, as always I'm grateful for your knowledge of the future. And VINCE! I'm eager to see what your answer to my multiple choice quiz! ALMOST as eager as I am to see you post your Submarine Letter, or the name of your medical condition. |
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| Apr 1st, 2003 11:13 AM | |||||||||
| GAsux |
Yes.... "This "conflict" is almost over." Spoken like a true outsider. Is that what Bill O'Rielly said? |
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| Apr 1st, 2003 09:18 AM | |||||||||
| Ronnie Raygun | This "conflict" is almost over. | ||||||||
| Apr 1st, 2003 01:10 AM | |||||||||
| Protoclown |
I already pointed this out in fewer words in my own response to Vince. But I'm glad you did too, sometimes he needs to hear the same thing two or three times and it still doesn't even sink in. |
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| Apr 1st, 2003 12:42 AM | |||||||||
| Baalzamon |
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Ok, lets break it down into parts, and you will see that these statements do not in fact contradict each other, if look at it logically. The second statement gives a means for acheiving victory. simple enough. The first statement enforces that these means are something that vincezeb does not want to see happen. everyone agree? To be fair to vincezeb, the second statement only stated a means, not a desire to see those means carried out. So he never did actually say that he wanted all traces of islam destroyed, he only said that that is the only way to win the war. So, vincezeb beleives: a) the war can only be won by wiping out "every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind" b) that we should not "wipe out every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind" even thought that would bring victory. a + b = ??????????????? ........... vincezeb beleives that: c) we should not win the war ??????????????? And vince, please show me how I have in anyway been unfair in adressing those two statements. Taken by themselves out of context as they are, they provide the same conclusion I have just laid out, that you do not want the war on terror to be won. I am fully aware that this is impossible, given your established views. As much as I disagree with your established views: I will assume it was an honest mistake. Please simply admit that a mistake was made and will let it go at that, as I hope others will as well. I may be an ignorant liberal communist anarchist pinko(did I forget anything), but that doesnt mean I cant be fair. |
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| Mar 31st, 2003 11:53 PM | |||||||||
| AChimp |
I'd have to go with B as well. Eliminating the conditions that breed terrorism is the only way to go. But didn't Jean Chretien say that after 9/11? Oh yeah, he did. Too bad no one listened. |
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| Mar 31st, 2003 11:11 PM | |||||||||
| Anonymous | B | ||||||||
| Mar 31st, 2003 05:26 PM | |||||||||
| mburbank |
BUMP! Becuase I'm dying to know what's going on with Vince. Is it: A.) Bipolar Mood swings. B.) Blackouts. C.) A poor understanding of the meaning of words. D.) Insanity. E.) Someone has hacked his account and he didn't notice. F.) He was typing so fast whole sentences came out that weren't what he meant and he shouldn't be held accountable for him, like the second time he almost died. One of these must be account for the complete incompatability of these two statements: "Where in anything did I say that I, VinceZeb, want to destroy everything that has ever existed about Islam? Oh wait, I didn't!" and "Unless we wipe out every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind, this is a war we will never win." I'm voting for C or F. |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 10:15 PM | |||||||||
| Protoclown | Yeah!! Or "unless we wipe out every trace of Christianity in the existance of mankind, this is a war we will never win." | ||||||||
| Mar 30th, 2003 09:15 PM | |||||||||
| ItalianStereotype | no, its always something like "destroy the imperialist pigdogs" | ||||||||
| Mar 30th, 2003 08:46 PM | |||||||||
| Jeanette X | Whenever I have read statements by terrorists, they have always listed very specific political reasons for their actions. It was never anything as simple as "Destroy the infidels!" | ||||||||
| Mar 30th, 2003 04:29 PM | |||||||||
| Protoclown |
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"Unless we wipe out every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind, this is a war we will never win." - VinceZeb "Unless we wipe out every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind, this is a war we will never win." - VinceZeb Oh, I'm sorry Vince, did you not mean that we SHOULD wipe out every trace of Islam in the existence of mankind? You were just saying that if we DON'T we won't win the war? But now that you're saying that you NEVER said we should wipe out all the Muslims, it can be inferred that you do not want us to win this war, since that, as you have previously stated (not five posts ago for your no-short-term-memory addled brain) the ONLY way to win is to wipe out all traces of Islam in existence. Jesus, man! What the fuck ARE you? Anti-American or something?? Quote:
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| Mar 30th, 2003 04:05 PM | |||||||||
| theapportioner |
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2) the continuation of this option will encourage other societies that are currently irritating to the American govt. to adopt this symbiosis, too. Saddam has done it. Who else? Iran, North Korea? The list could very well go on. Continued military intervention will only lead to our hands getting more and more tied down. To use an example in biology, the development of antibiotic resistant germs due to the overusage of penicillin, etc. 4) seems to be the most difficult, but ultimately the best -- it will lead to a solution that does not involve wiping out billions of people. I don't have a good answer, but I can tell you that military intervention ain't helping things. |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 03:56 PM | |||||||||
| punkgrrrlie10 |
War on terrorism is about as useful as the war on drugs. First off, alot of emphasis seems to be placed on Islam. Yes we have Muslim terrorists but don't rule out our own homegrown terrorists who still love to place bombs in federal buildings. Terrorism is something that can't be stomped out. It's impossible. There will always be some crazy bastard with a moral complex trying to kill anyone who doesn't agree w/their cause (hmmmm analogies anyone?) |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 03:49 PM | |||||||||
| VinceZeb |
Good liberals put words in people's mouths. You two are real good liberals. Where in anything did I say that I, VinceZeb, want to destroy everything that has ever existed about Islam? Oh wait, I didn't! 1) Last time I checked, I didn't see Jews strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up in public places, like what just happened. I don't see jews flying planes into buildings. I don't see jews brutally opressing anyone because of religion. I see the jews tolerating Arafag and the rest of his corhorts because they want peace. They could have wiped out the Gaza Strip and West bank in a new york minute if they wanted to. If you are trying to use moral equivelency into something you know I did not mean in the first place, then I strongly suggest reading up more on your arguments before you make assumptions. 2) Now proto, since you are an idiot I have to dumb it down for you. Now, how to explain this to a netgeek with a superority complex..... hmm.... ok. Well, I never said that I wanted to kill all the muslims, first off. Where in there did I say it? I said that is the only way we would truly complete the war on terror that we are fighting now. Killing off ALL muslims would make us just as evil as they are. Now, where have you seen me avocating SS style tactics with all muslims? Wait, that's right, NOWHERE! And how would I identify them? Hmmm, lets see. Now, Proto, since you secretly worship at the alter of the P.C. god "tolerance", I will explain how. Background checks on Muslims from terrorist states that we as the U.S. have identifed. When someone gets extreme in their anti-American retoric and starts to talk about the new Muslim theorcracy and killing Americans, they are surveyed and watched. Terrorist threats that we recieved are treated as 100% accurate and must be dealt with. I truly believe you don't get the ramifications of your ideas. What are you going to do, Proto? Sit there and let the guy next to you talk about going into glorious Jihad and talk about the crusaders and the zionist destroying the world and that Allah has commanded him to kill, then sit there yourself and do nothing until your throat is slit? Do you not really understand what is going on in the world? THEY HATE YOU, Proto! Muslim fundimentalists would put a bullet in you just as fast as me if they get the chance. They are the ultimate in "multiculturalism": They do not care about race, height, weight, eye color, hair length, your favorite band, your type of computer, anything of that. If you ain't muslim, you ain't livin. I don't know how much plainer I can get. I do not want to kill all muslims whatosever. But the ones who want to kill me, well, I could care less what happens to them or how they die. |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 02:27 PM | |||||||||
| Protoclown |
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HOW exactly would that make us any "better" than them, Vince? And if you DON'T want to kill all the Muslims like you just fucking SAID you did, how exactly would we identify the specific Muslims who "want to go to heaven for fighting in the Jihad". Do you have a magical crystal ball or mind-reading device that will help you identify them without fault? P.S. you're a sick fuck P.P.S. fatty |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 02:04 PM | |||||||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 02:01 PM | |||||||||
| FS |
Vince, Terrorism is not a country. It is a concept, and if you bite it it'll just bite back. You can't wipe out terrorism because you can't control people's minds. Attacking the circumstances that create it, rather than manipulating them, will only serve to increase terrorism. There is one way to defeat terrorism - occupying the entire world and enforcing a complete police state with no civil rights whatsoever. That world would be safe. |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 01:45 PM | |||||||||
| VinceZeb |
The war on terrorism is not bullshit. It is a real war. But we should call it what it is: The war against fundamentlist Islamics that will carry out attacks on Western civilization. Unless we wipe out every trace of Islam in the existance of mankind, this is a war we will never win. The only way we will contain this to make sure that these people that want to go to heaven for fighting in Jihad are destroyed. And I don't mean by beating up a country or two. I mean, when you capture one, you make him drink pigs blood and slit his thorat. We have to make it known that "imposing Allah's will" has no place in free nations. Do what you want in your backwards country. Don't fuck with us, and when you do, your bloodline wont exist on the planet. Like I said before, they don't care about YOU, unless you are non-Muslim. Then you convert or die. People need to wake up and realize this. Heads in the sand will only make them easier to cut off without reistance. |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 01:44 PM | |||||||||
| FS |
Terrorism can rarely be fought, and even if it's possible, using secret operatives or small amounts of soldiers is much more effective than a bombardment. The only way to effectively fight it would be to prevent the circumstances that breed it, and even that's not always possible. |
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| Mar 30th, 2003 01:34 PM | |||||||||
| Protoclown |
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HOW can the "war on terror" EVER end?? It's a bullshit concept in the first place, and there is NO WAY IN HELL to ever bring something like that to an end. We don't know who is a terrorist until they commit an act of terror. And since so many of them commit these acts of terrorism in suicidal missions, HOW can you retaliate against them? Okay, you can go after the group they're affiliated with, IF they were even affiliated with a terrorist group in the first place. But then how do you find the groups these terrorists are affiliated with? How do you root them out? And even when you do, how do you avoid creating more embittered psycopaths whose rage toward us drives them to commit acts of terrorism themselves? You can't fight a "war" against an opponent you can't locate or even IDENTIFY. You can't accept a surrender, or sign a treaty, or agree to a cease fire with them. |
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