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Nov 19th, 2003 01:23 AM
camacazio I prefer socialism.
Nov 19th, 2003 01:05 AM
Anonymous Whatever you say, comrad.
Nov 18th, 2003 10:07 PM
Zhukov Seth, you have to remember that "marxist" doesn't just mean following marx; it is a way to seperate the "marxists" from the maoists, stalinists etc... who all consider themselves communist.


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Regardless, they are from Mars. Hence the name.
They found a hammer and sickle on mars. Or was it the moon...? Oh well, it doesn't matter. Despite your best efforts to hijack this thread, Boogie, it is staying communised.
Nov 18th, 2003 09:26 PM
Bizarro Vince
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That reminds me, someone should make a character named Bizarro Vince, and everything he says should make sense and be perfectly reasonable and eloquent.
Your wish is granted, my son.
Nov 18th, 2003 04:23 PM
The One and Only...
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Originally Posted by mburbank
I don't know here you learned ecology, but decomposers are a totally seperate class. I called Humans Top Predators, a term that refers to predacious animals (which Omnivores can be) which have no natural enemies that prey on them.
I thought you were referring to the food pyramid, where detrivores are at the top.

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Now you're talking about just American species protction laws as opposed to the inherent value of biodiversity? Sorry I missed that switch. The fact that you haven't heard of 'endangered' strains of staple crops is only becuase you're uneducated on the subject. Most varieties of cultivated plants in human history are more than endangered, they are in fact extinct, although potentially and with a lot of effort we could breed backwards to similar (though not the same) strains. Corporate farming relies heavily on singke strains as they are far easier to bulk produce.
I knew that. But how many of these endangered plants could we eat in a crisis? Hence, I pointed wheats, etc.

I guess they are useful in putting oxygen back into the world.
Nov 18th, 2003 11:07 AM
Cosmo Electrolux I just read that link that Jeanette posted...the quotes from this coulter woman...my God, I really didnt think anyone could be that brutally stupid. I was wrong. She has to be the product of inbreeding..or bad potty training.
Nov 18th, 2003 10:52 AM
mburbank I don't know here you learned ecology, but decomposers are a totally seperate class. I called Humans Top Predators, a term that refers to predacious animals (which Omnivores can be) which have no natural enemies that prey on them.

Now you're talking about just American species protction laws as opposed to the inherent value of biodiversity? Sorry I missed that switch. The fact that you haven't heard of 'endangered' strains of staple crops is only becuase you're uneducated on the subject. Most varieties of cultivated plants in human history are more than endangered, they are in fact extinct, although potentially and with a lot of effort we could breed backwards to similar (though not the same) strains. Corporate farming relies heavily on singke strains as they are far easier to bulk produce.
Nov 18th, 2003 12:31 AM
Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Sethomas
A modern communist has historical blah blah blah blah...
Regardless, they are from Mars. Hence the name.
Nov 17th, 2003 11:48 PM
Zhukov
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Zhukov, Marxians and Marxists are not the same thing, but you can think whatever you want.
Tell us then. I'm all ears.
Nov 17th, 2003 11:47 PM
Sethomas A modern communist has historical models to follow loosely. Marx only outlined the crises that necessitated rebellion and called for revolt, he admittedly never proposed what a communist state would be like. So the label "communist" stretches farther beyond what "Marxism" entails.
Nov 17th, 2003 09:55 PM
Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Protoclown
What about Martians? Where do they fit into all this?
They're the original Marxians. Why do you think we call it "the Red Planet"?
Nov 17th, 2003 05:30 PM
kellychaos They're next after the Syrians!
Nov 17th, 2003 04:44 PM
Protoclown What about Martians? Where do they fit into all this?
Nov 17th, 2003 04:19 PM
The One and Only...
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Originally Posted by mburbank
Once is Enough, that was me who posted the biodiversity argument you're thinking of. You were deliberately being a jerk last time it came up becuase in some way you think it's funny as opposed to just making the times you actually believe something less credible. I told you then it isn't about tigers it's about single strains of wheat or rice or potatoes, or giant ecosystems. It's never about top predators, which is why if the Human Race vanished from the face of the arth tomorrow it would make almost no dfifference to the biosphere, but if most of te species of beetle out there were gone, it would make the possibiulity of complete ecologic collapse much greater.

I know you already understand this. Stop being a dufus, or learn to be funny when you are.
First of all, humans are not at the top of the food chain. Those would be decomposers. I'm not exactly sure whether omnivores are second-level or third-level consumers, but we are not the top.

Second, what on earth did endangered species laws have to do with different strands of producers? I have never heard of an endangered wheats or rices or potatoes.

Zhukov, Marxians and Marxists are not the same thing, but you can think whatever you want.
Nov 17th, 2003 09:57 AM
Zhukov There is no political difference between "marxian" and "marxist" you stooge

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If you've read Marx, you should understand why it's a misnomer to call a modern communist a Marxist. I could use some entertainment, so everyone let one of the right-wing drones throw out his best guess as to why.
Of the top of my head "I am not a marxist" pops up, is this what you were thinking of?

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confustigated
Has this replaced something?
Nov 17th, 2003 09:35 AM
mburbank Once is Enough, that was me who posted the biodiversity argument you're thinking of. You were deliberately being a jerk last time it came up becuase in some way you think it's funny as opposed to just making the times you actually believe something less credible. I told you then it isn't about tigers it's about single strains of wheat or rice or potatoes, or giant ecosystems. It's never about top predators, which is why if the Human Race vanished from the face of the arth tomorrow it would make almost no dfifference to the biosphere, but if most of te species of beetle out there were gone, it would make the possibiulity of complete ecologic collapse much greater.

I know you already understand this. Stop being a dufus, or learn to be funny when you are.
Nov 16th, 2003 09:34 PM
The One and Only... Because most are misguided teens who think that socialism and communism are the same thing, and that both go hand-in-hand with the green left-wing?

Or, is it because most are Marxian rather than Marxist?

Maybe Engels was the real brains behind the Communist Manifesto? Damn Engelians.
Nov 16th, 2003 09:13 PM
Sethomas If you've read Marx, you should understand why it's a misnomer to call a modern communist a Marxist. I could use some entertainment, so everyone let one of the right-wing drones throw out his best guess as to why.
Nov 16th, 2003 08:52 PM
The One and Only...
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Originally Posted by Jeanette X
"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01
What's so unusual aboot that, eh? Take out God, and it makes perfect sense. The only thing that stops people from doing what they want to the earth in my mind is property rights, whether public or private.

Oh yeah, about biodiversity. Someone posted one example and said that one reason it's good is because if one disease kills a certain breed of animal, others will still be around. What's so great about that? It's not as if we are going to eat tigers or bald eagles if all the cattle die out. Sounds like we would be a lot better off of we just genetically-altered domestic breeds of animals in order to minimize such an effect.

And hey, if all the animals do die out, we'll have to become vegetarian. Isn't that a step toward healthier bodies?
















(snicker)
Nov 16th, 2003 08:39 PM
The One and Only... So Zhukov, what is your opinion of the Marxians? I'm guessing your a Marxist, and there is a difference.
Nov 16th, 2003 12:26 PM
Miss Modular Garry Trudeau sends up Frau Coulter.
Nov 15th, 2003 10:20 AM
Zhukov He says he has read 'Das Kapital' too, you know. He's a liar. He is just lying, all the time.
Nov 15th, 2003 10:13 AM
mburbank Seriously? You read the book? 'Cause it only just came out. You must have rushed straight to the library in your little feety pj's. I mean, I can't believe you'd have purchased it, it's still in hardback and I know you wouldn't want your hard earned internship dollars going to David Korn. OH! Wait! I know! You have a lconviently liberal roomate and or co-worker who lent you the book. And you really, really, really, really read it, all the way through. And you can back that shit up. Did you shout 'BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!" before you strated reading so you could rea d a superhard book like that?


Kelly, 'soldier in your pocket' was one of the fiunnier things I've read her, but man, when Vinth came back with that image of your mom, YOUR MOM, man, MASTURBATING him, and more than that, letting us know his penis is BIG, woah. There was no way to see a shot like that coming. He blindsided you. I mean, your MOM. MASTURBATING him. Man. Yowtch. Jump back, is all I cn say. 'Cause it was Your MOM. YOUR MOM. Doing the masturbating. Burn.
Nov 15th, 2003 03:08 AM
Sethomas Terrorists are defined as sand****** towelheads. Duh.
Nov 14th, 2003 09:09 PM
Buffalo Tom
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Terrorist are people who commit terrorist acts. A terrorist act against the U.S. is an undeclared attack with no seen provication by a group or individual that is acting in the interest of a nation or of a particular group.
No, no. I want a definition of terrorism, irrespective of your national origin, political ideology, and religious upbringing. The objective, clinical definition of terrorism that you use to judge which countries or groups use terrorism. I'm seriously interested in knowing what that definition is.
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