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Nov 11th, 2003 05:26 PM
Command Prompt So what are you saying Spooky?

that we find out in Revolutions, the Oracle gave her shell up in Reloaded to save Trinity when she died in the matrix?

Thats deep. Or maybe its because the actor who played the oracle passed away before they were finished filming and they needed a quick way to cover it up.

This shell jumping has me more confused than I was when watching mission impossible 2.
Nov 11th, 2003 03:38 PM
Protoclown Don't bother playing the game, Spooky. It sucks, and they don't explain the Oracle being different any more in there than they did in the movie.
Nov 11th, 2003 08:14 AM
Spooky It pissed me off because now I want to play that retarded fuckinggame so I know what happened to the Oracle to make her change "shells".

Other things (possible spoilers):

On the note of Oracles new body, I also was reminded of that when Neo was assimilated. Earlier, she claims "I may be different, but bits and pieces are still there", and it points to that when Smith says "Cookies need to be made with Love", and later says whatever the hell he says to Neo in the final battle where he goes "What did I just say?"

However, I went and saw it again, and knowing what happens, you can see alot of foreshadowing.

One last thing, when Trinity and crew are chasing the Train Man, who looks like a creepy homeless Jesus, the subway has a large poster of "Tastee Wheat" which is a fake product referenced in the first movie by that little perverted kid with the tommyguns.
Nov 11th, 2003 02:39 AM
Comrade Rocket I saw it. Action was good, Huge Battle in Zion was good. Kinda pissed me off by just giving me more questions, but it was better than the last one.

But during the Neo vs Smith fight, the only thing I could think was...

NEXT TIME ON MATRIX BALL Z!!!!!!!

I even thought at one time Neo was going to start doing a Kamahamaya Wave.

And the ending pissed me off, cuz a friend told me that the Matrix gets Formated and a new one is built but its all lord of the rings style...but you know.
Nov 10th, 2003 05:23 AM
the_dudefather i love that spegetti-os mix, the only problem is i OD after about three mouthfulls.

deleeceous
Nov 10th, 2003 05:05 AM
Skulhedface It means you do too many drugs and you need to knock it off, lest you start seeing pills floating in your Spaghetti-O's.
Nov 10th, 2003 03:09 AM
Command Prompt Cool, I'm watching Reloaded right now, and I just noticed that the candy the Oracle offers Neo, is a red pill when she unwraps it.

Wonder what the hell THAT's supposed to mean :/
Nov 10th, 2003 02:47 AM
Schimid

I didn't laugh that much, I wanted to see what it would look like.
Nov 10th, 2003 02:41 AM
Command Prompt
Nov 10th, 2003 01:12 AM
Mockery http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/031109matrix.htm
Nov 9th, 2003 07:38 PM
CaptainBubba Saw it. It sucked.

THE END.
Nov 9th, 2003 12:57 PM
HickMan Matrix Revolutions was disappointing, but it wasn't bad. It definetly didn't live up to my expectations. No agents. I would rather have agents fight in the movie then see three jillion Smiths do nothing.
Nov 9th, 2003 10:43 AM
Rongi Oh I can see it plainly

Anyone who thinks Keanu Reeves is jesus is stupid.
Nov 9th, 2003 02:56 AM
Alxcipher
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"it was rather clever."

Erm...No, it wasn't.
Well, that's certainly god-damn conclusive. You've made a believer out of me.
I can't believe anyone takes these movies' cod-philosophy seriously. I have seen deeper meaning in 'Ernest goes poopoos'
I saw the Philosophy as cogent and well done. I'm not sure how'd you construe it as stupid.
Nov 8th, 2003 10:45 PM
Emu Everything was great except the Trinity getting killed part and the Smith vs. Neo part. I say the Trinity dying part was bad not because I like her, but because she talked a whoooole lot for someone with an iron rod through her lung. And the Smith vs. Neo thing was just retarded on many levels.
Nov 8th, 2003 08:50 PM
Ihach well i just got back from seeing and man did it suck, im really dissapointed. the battle for zion was cool, but man was the neo vs. smith thing retarded, i fully agree with the whole real life DBZ comment. so all in all, this series just got worse with each movie
Nov 8th, 2003 03:59 PM
Spectre X Just back from seeing it. Holy shit. Awesomeness abound.
Nov 8th, 2003 10:50 AM
Protoclown The ending of Matrix Reloaded was CHEESY AS SHIT. Of course, that's pretty much the whole reason WHY I like it, it makes me laugh.

The trilogy as a whole is nowhere near as strong as it could have been, it didn't live up to its potential that was hinted at in the first movie. A lot of the philosophical stuff was never explored, just brought up and then never touched again. So you have a lot of dead ends there. I think the Wachowskis tried to be vague on some things so you could form your own interpretations, but I think a viewing of all three movies closer together would be required to really find any hidden meaning in any of it.

I certainly enjoyed the trilogy, it was GREAT eye-candy. The acting for the most part was shit, Hugo Weaving was the best of the bunch. But I love the old Star Wars movies too and the acting was pretty much crap there too. Sadly, the movies don't have NEARLY as much depth as they seem to think they have, but that doesn't bother me but so much.

I like the movies, but as for the trilogy as a whole, it doesn't rank up there anywhere near the old Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, etc...
Nov 8th, 2003 05:34 AM
Dole
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"it was rather clever."

Erm...No, it wasn't.
Well, that's certainly god-damn conclusive. You've made a believer out of me.
I can't believe anyone takes these movies' cod-philosophy seriously. I have seen deeper meaning in 'Ernest goes poopoos'
Nov 7th, 2003 11:28 PM
Immortal Goat
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How Neo sacfiriced himself to destroy all the smiths were cool, cept... Smith copied himself to many normal pluged-in people of the matrix right? Couldn't the matrix can goto one of the fetal pods and electrocute that?
I see your point, but I think I may have the answer. Here goes...

The machines couldn't electrocute any of the bodies in the tubes because they weren't linked in the same way. The body fields are not directly linked to the center of the city, otherwise known as the "source". Neo, however, was linked, not only to the Matrix, but linked through the actual "CPU", so to speak. Since he was a direct link, they were able to manipulate him in ways that were not possible out in the fields.
Nov 7th, 2003 07:28 PM
Alxcipher
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Originally Posted by Dole
"it was rather clever."

Erm...No, it wasn't.
Well, that's certainly god-damn conclusive. You've made a believer out of me.
Nov 7th, 2003 03:03 PM
Anonymous Yeah, I caught it. Of course, the movie didn't go anywhere with that angle. I guess the brothers Wachowsky just wanted Agent Smith to look like a big digital version of Oedipus. Lousy mother fucker.


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I wanted to see more of the archetech merovingian and persephone.
I agree. Frankly, I wanted to see more of Persephone, too, and I'm not talking screentime, baby!

Not that her boobs didn't steal the show enough when she was on camera, but still.

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I heard somewhere that in the matrix game, apparently when neo kissed persephone, they traded information or something... i dunno can anyone spoil the game pls?
My pleasure. Neo doesn't appear at all in the video game. You do get to see both Ghost and Niobe kiss Persephone, but only to rehash that scene in the bathroom, where one has to prove their love for the other, and not to exchange information.

Also, to further spoil the game for you, the game was god awful and tiresome.
Nov 7th, 2003 02:40 PM
Sam SPOILER MAYBE



DID ANYONE CATCH HOW AGENT SMITH CALLED THE ORACLE MOM???
Nov 7th, 2003 12:55 PM
Buffalo Tom How long will it be before we see 'The Matrix Musical Revue' on Broadway or on some stage in London's West End? My votes are for Robert Goulet as Morpheus and Sebastian Bach as Neo. Tyne Daly could play the Oracle, or that decrepit council member who yapped at Neo about destiny and shit while they were in the bowels of Zion.
Nov 7th, 2003 11:44 AM
Tropical Spoilers*!!!!!!

The thing i'm most interested about is how machines and humans co-exist. Do they live together as friends, or do they mark up seperate boundaries promising never to cross each others land or mess with their business.

How Neo sacfiriced himself to destroy all the smiths were cool, cept... Smith copied himself to many normal pluged-in people of the matrix right? Couldn't the matrix can goto one of the fetal pods and electrocute that?

Nice touch on all the sentinals flying together to form a face.

Lot's of nostalgic memories of the first movie.
Ie. Battles with smith were similar, neo getting up from the ground with dust in his hair.
The deja-vu cat, and other little bits i can't remember now.

I loved the movie, glad they didn't explain it with the matrix in matrix theory. I still don't understand why smith gets neo powers by posessing the oracle. All she does is see the future right??? Not fly around... and describing Smith as a parrallel of Neo is kinda silly... i dunno... it's still beautiful. Yea my friend talked about how it's borderline DBZ. I'm dissapointed, many actors got like so little show time. I wanted to see more of the archetech merovingian and persephone.

I heard somewhere that in the matrix game, apparently when neo kissed persephone, they traded information or something... i dunno can anyone spoil the game pls?

Peace
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