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Aug 12th, 2003 10:30 AM

kellychaos

He may have advocated it as a way to sell his ideas but what he was was an elitist, nationalistic, totalitarian dictator. That is NOT socialism. I'm not even going to argue the point with someone who can't see THAT simple difference so stop before you start. I can already feel the hot air of your self-stroking rhetoric.

Aug 11th, 2003 06:22 PM

Zero Signal

NSDAP = die National Sozialisten Deutsches Arbeitspartei = Nazi

woo. we learned that in first year German. jeez

Aug 11th, 2003 06:11 PM

I swear Vince's retorts are rapidly falling apart into just randomly generated words.

Perhaps he is science's first attempt at producing the emotion "impotent rage" in artificial intelligence, but the fact that his system has been active for over 48 hours straight has caused his program to become corrupted. God have mercy on us all.

Aug 11th, 2003 05:28 PM

The_Rorschach

Hitler advocated National Socialism buddy, and so do many of the people who see him as something of a modern day messiah.

Aug 11th, 2003 02:59 PM

kellychaos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat

I thought Hitler started the national socialist party? But I dig what your saying, I think thats definitely what Mussolini did.

It started out as the German Worker's Party. Here's a pretty good link that shows the evolution of the party:

LINK

Aug 11th, 2003 02:49 PM

Big Papa Goat

I thought Hitler started the national socialist party? But I dig what your saying, I think thats definitely what Mussolini did.

Aug 11th, 2003 02:29 PM

kellychaos

The Worker's Party, which Hitler was a part of, was socialist but that doesn't necessarily mean that Hitler himself was. Sometimes leaders will jump into whatever party is on the rise to gain clout and then jump ship after they've established their familiarity. Ya dig?

Aug 11th, 2003 01:27 PM

Big Papa Goat

Quote:

The common good comes before the private good.

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.

lib·er·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.

Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States

Where does it say something about the common good?
And the Nazi party may have said that they care more about the common good than the private good, but there actions speak louder than words. Clearly by 'common' good they meant the good of the german race, at the expense of the world, and even within the german people, Nazi policies tended to be favorable towards wealthy businessmen.
I don't want to start another Patriot Act argument, but isn't it sacrificing the rights of individuals in favor of the security of soceity?

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Aug 11th, 2003 11:22 AM

Zero Signal

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

Nice try.

The last time I checked, setting one's self on fire wasn't a central tenant of believing in the teachings of Buddha.

So now you are a Buddhist.

Aug 11th, 2003 11:15 AM

VinceZeb

Nice try.

The last time I checked, setting one's self on fire wasn't a central tenant of believing in the teachings of Buddha.

Aug 11th, 2003 10:52 AM

Vince, one of the most fascinating things about the nazis is that a surprisingly low percentage of them set themselves on fire. Unless I'm mistaken, you have never set yourself on fire either. Gee, what are you... a NAZI!?!?!??

Aug 11th, 2003 09:20 AM

VinceZeb

Quote:

Oh ya, and name me a liberal philosophy that veers towards totalitarianism Rorshac.
P.S- Hitler, Soviet Union and Mao= Revolutionary, not liberal.

Those items are... not liberal?

The common good comes before the private good.
-- Nazi slogan

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.
-- Hillary Clinton

Hmmm.....

Aug 11th, 2003 06:37 AM

Zero Signal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat

If it is within a particular jurisdiction, then sure, it is applicable.

Aug 11th, 2003 12:41 AM

Big Papa Goat

Quote:

He has a Constitutional right now only to possess an opinion, but to share it. Would you infringe upon his personal rights simply because you find them undesirable? If so, I would much appreciate you creating a seperate thread so we can discuss the tendancy of liberal philosophy to veer towards totalitarianism.

About the Constitutional Rights thing... isn't this the internet, and isn't the internet a global communications medium? And therefore, aren't the laws of the United States void here? Its not like you can go to England and demand to buy a gun because back in America it was a constitutional right.

Oh ya, and name me a liberal philosophy that veers towards totalitarianism Rorshac.
P.S- Hitler, Soviet Union and Mao= Revolutionary, not liberal.
P.P.S- Please, don't start arguing about gun control, it was just an example.

Aug 9th, 2003 07:38 AM

FartinMowler

[quote]I "would like to believe" that you "would like to believe", but from what you said above you have no intention of ever believing anything about God. [quote]

Well that sure didn't make me want to join..I believe I will go have a cup of coffee and read the comics

Aug 9th, 2003 07:19 AM

FartinMowler

Aug 9th, 2003 06:26 AM

Zero Signal

I thought you had it correct. :/

"Even if you had ten tongues, you should hold them all."

Aug 9th, 2003 01:19 AM

The_Rorschach

Hey, well, its been two and half semesters since my last Latin coarse. "Lingo Warez" doesn't translate well, so I had to improvise. I suppose I could have said 'many tongued' instead, but I chose ten since that is the number of well known languages out there.

Screw you if you don't like it hippy!

Aug 8th, 2003 11:38 PM

Zero Signal

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

Si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

If I had ten tongues, I would be in pornos.

Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum

Aug 8th, 2003 11:05 PM

The_Rorschach

Si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

Aug 8th, 2003 07:42 PM

Zero Signal

Quote:

Originally Posted by FartinMowler

I would like to believe but I have had too many terrible things happen to me in my life and it wasn't god that helped me and he isn't getting the credit thank you.

That is some of the saddest bullshit I have heard, and something that so many people say. Do you even hear what you are saying? You had some bad things happen you and when you didn't get a handout from God (when you neither believed in Him nor asked Him for help), you blame Him for it. That is just fantastic.

I "would like to believe" that you "would like to believe", but from what you said above you have no intention of ever believing anything about God. Save your breath next time and just keep your mouth shut before you say something this ignorant again.

Aug 8th, 2003 06:09 PM

Sethomas

'Cuz God's existence depends on making us feel good, and stuff.

Aug 8th, 2003 06:06 PM

FartinMowler

I can relate to Sspadowski..

Quote:

I still haven't decided if I believe there is any higher power. There's something wonderfully ironic about the idea that this is all just random chance, and people still try to find proof of a grand designer. If there's some omnipotent force out there that put this all together, I bet it's far different than the human concept of "God." And, if it does exist, it's obviously got a pretty twisted sense of humor.

And even The_Rorschach can surprise...

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I'm guilty of many things, worse than that. The best I can manage is to correct myself, and illuminate a better way for others whom might be interested.

Surely you are not suggesting I cannot grow as a person?

Compassion doesn't come easily to everyone, but I'm working on it.

I would like to believe but I have had too many terrible things happen to me in my life and it wasn't god that helped me and he isn't getting the credit thank you.

Aug 8th, 2003 05:54 PM

Sethomas

Submerge your head in water. Inhale.

Aug 8th, 2003 05:45 PM

Spectre X

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre X

Bruce Campbell is God.

and I'll add a second '

' to that seeing as you still won't understand.

There, I have three now, happy?

FOUR!

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