Go Back   I-Mockery Forum > I-Mockery Discussion Forums > Philosophy, Politics, and News > Warren Buffet talks dividend voodoo
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Thread: Warren Buffet talks dividend voodoo Reply to Thread
Title:
Message
Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.


Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
Jun 1st, 2003 04:19 AM
Zhukov
Quote:
I do not like people who mooch off the government, which in turn means they are mooching off my hard work.

The biggest "moochers" off of your hard work are not those on welfare:

http://www.newyouth.com/archives/wor...k_reminder.asp

Samuel Lynbrook

August 15, 2001

Recently, I recieved a raise in pay, a grand fifty cents which brought my hourly wage up from $6.00 to $6.25. Working in a photo lab in a Florida Eckerds, (a drug store chain owned by JC Pennies) what do you expect? Of course, this is where being a Marxist always gets you in trouble. I expect the capitalist class which leeches off of humanity to be overthrown.

I have always been aware that I was and still am being grossly exploited by the capitalists, but never before had I done the math! (Of course the following numbers are approximations in many cases, such as hourly wages of co-workers and so on.) Opening a binder in the back of the photo lab labled "finance" I found many statistics dealing with the profit and expenses of the lab. Namely the Gross profit.

Gross profit for April: $16,200.00, and a few lines down the word "usage" with $4500.00 written to the left of it. I am assuming that is the cost for that month to keep the lab running; (the cost of chemicals for the machines, paper for printing photos, etc.). At that time I made $6.00 an hour, and worked 20 hours a week, as did two other employees. The manager of the lab makes $17.50 and works 50 hours a week.

If you do the math Eckerds pays out $5,000 a month in wages to the photo workers; $500 for myself and two other employees and $3,500 to the manager, leaving them with a nice profit of $6700 a month, which is just one lab of well over one thousdand locations.

Now, if you were to add up the total hours worked by all employees (including the manager) and divide the Gross profit, minus the cost of running the lab, you will find the amount of wealth produced by a worker in an hour. In this case the formula looks like this: $16,200.00 - $4500.00 = 11,700.00/440 = $26.60. The wealth we create every hour is worth $26.00, yet I was being paid $6.00. Every hour I was being robbed of $20.60. Just a friendly reminder of why those capitalists have such nice fancy cars and houses.

Samuel Lynbrook,
August 2001
May 31st, 2003 08:34 PM
Miss Modular AChimp made me
May 31st, 2003 08:20 PM
AChimp
Quote:
or are a child/teenager and you STILL have yet to get on your own and do for yourself, you are lazy and a parasite.
Children and teenagers are parasites for living with their parents?

I'd say that all children and teenagers are better off living at home. Of all the people here, I thought that Vinth would be the one to stand up for family values.
May 31st, 2003 03:18 PM
Sethomas Ah, so now there are stipulations and exceptions.

Dipshit.
May 31st, 2003 02:18 PM
VinceZeb You all beneath me when it comes to this argument. If you don't make 70,000 a year, it doesnt mean you are dirty or stupid. How much money you make has nothing to do with this. If you are someone who works hard and is self-reliant and makes 23,000 a year, well good for you.

I do not like people who mooch off the government, which in turn means they are mooching off my hard work. If you are not struck with tragedy, physical or mental disabilities, have no desire to make a ton of money, or are a child/teenager and you STILL have yet to get on your own and do for yourself, you are lazy and a parasite.
May 31st, 2003 12:00 PM
AChimp $70,000 per year already puts you close to the upper middle-class, in which case you are extremely well off. So says Corporate America and their army of marketers.
May 31st, 2003 08:17 AM
Zhukov Glad I read this thread. I don't want to slot into any niche here, but...

"You would have been a good fit in the heyday of the Communist control of Russia."


Nice job of sliping this one in.
I am guessing you are refering to Stalinist Russia. If you are, what does your sentence mean?


"you are a socialist.... You, therefore, are an idiot..."

"I know one thing I am not, which is a socialist fool such as you."

".....elitist assholes like yourself."

"I'm sorry that I'm not a big liberal idiot like you"

Can you be a Socialist Liberal? Can you be an Elite Socialist Liberal? I know you can't be an Elitist Socialist. I am Socialist, what is Liberal? What makes me an idiot for being Socialist? DO you know what Socialism is yet?


"Idiot"
"Fool"
"Asshole"
"Idiot"


"That is why he has to insult and degrade me. It's the standard liberal tactic."


"Blow your class warfare crap out of your ass, Kelly. Your just another ignorant liberal tool, no matter how much you want to deny it."

Why don't you blow your "Libertarian" crap out of your arse?

I am not a smart person, and I don't really know what 'Liberal' is but I will make a guess and state that they probably don't support the armed revolution over Capitalism. If they do, however, support the Class War, hooray for the Liberals.

I'm sure you would 'love' to respond to my questions, but you are probably too tired. However if you want to " do the violence ", then step outside - I hear you punch like a girl.


Fuck you, cocksmoker.
May 31st, 2003 07:18 AM
kilmie polanski
Quote:
just how hard it is to reach even that $70,000.00 mark. You may even find it hard to get a job. Who knows, the day may come when $70,000.00 seems like a hell of a lot of money to you. I know you like to be cocky, but don't be sure it won't happen. Pride goeth before the fall.
Exactly...hey vincey, if one earns less than $70, 000, he/she doesn't automatically fall into that category of "slackers, and whores, and bums *oh my*"; a person can be competent enough, like max, to support any financial burden that comes his/her way. I know where you're comin from vince,as my whole family is composed of right wing hawks; you're voicing the opinion of your grand old party. good boy. And i'm not saying i disagree with you wholly, but you're not being very realistic.

Mostly, i just see you as a pompous hot tempered asshole, worthy of your Stan avatar. i just want to nail you in a coffin.
May 23rd, 2003 12:02 PM
mburbank Vinth, $70,000 is more than my family's income, and unlike you, I think of myself as middle class. I do this by looking at people who actually live in poverty and seeing how much easier my life is than theirs. Far from being bitter about those better off than I as you constantly insist, I'm very grateful to be as well off as I am. My children aren't hungry, my family has health benefits through my job. We own our own home and a car. We've worked very hard to achieve these things. I don't know why people who are poor fill you with rage, even junkies, drunkards, those with lots of children and illegal imigrants. The money they get from my paycheck is a small thing I think of as part of being an American Citizen. Sure, beyond my vote I have no choice if I intend to obey the law, but money to social security, welfare, WIC, etc. just doesn't upset me the way it does you, because even if it's abused (you know, the way the Pentagon abuses it's budget sometimes) some of that money goes to feed hungry kids, and I think that's okay. It doesn't fill me with loathing and rage. I don't know why it does that to you. I would suggest somke form of political advocacy. Or donate money to Politicians who share your views, or time.

I'm not sure what your major is, but you may be very surpirsed when you get out of... wherever it is you go... just how hard it is to reach even that $70,000.00 mark. You may even find it hard to get a job. Who knows, the day may come when $70,000.00 seems like a hell of a lot of money to you. I know you like to be cocky, but don't be sure it won't happen. Pride goeth before the fall.
May 23rd, 2003 11:37 AM
VinceZeb Kelly, moron, learn what the govt considers rich! 70,000 a year to the govt is considered rich. Do you believe that is a "rich" person? It is obvious you are not known for your intelligence.

Blow your class warfare crap out of your ass, Kelly. Your just another ignorant liberal tool, no matter how much you want to deny it.
May 23rd, 2003 11:23 AM
kellychaos
Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceZeb
I don't fight just for multimillionaires. I fight for everyone who is overburden with the task of taking care of people that refuse to do anything for themselves. They didn't ask to take care of them, why should they?
The claim of "trickle down" economics is that the rich, when given a tax break, will reinvest/reinvigorate the economy to provide for the unemployed and/or disenfranchised. By that logic, wouldn't the money be going, indirectly, to those same people, Vinth?

Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceZeb
There is a BIG difference between the mentally and physically handicapped that CANNOT do one single thing that is productive and people who can that flat-out refuse to. The govt is an inefficient machine. The govt should not bend to only my whim, but the govt should not screw over the people who make the country go. That is WRONG. It is IMMORAL.
So all this money saved in the tax cut is going to go to those people who ARE willing to put in their 40+ hours in the form of profit sharing checks and NOT to the leaders of corporate America. Yeah ... lots of luck there!

Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceZeb
People like me will go out and do the violence to protect the elitist assholes like yourself.
So your found your submariner letter, Vinth?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Here I am the minority that can hold his own.
Did I miss a key day on the board? When did THAT start happening?
May 23rd, 2003 09:57 AM
mburbank Am I predictable?

"You are going to say Vinth as some funny geek in-joke."

Wrong. It's not an 'in-joke' by any strecth of the imagination. I made it up to annoy you, which it does, and becuase you put me in mind of Daffy Duck. Since I've haven't shared tht with anyone until now, it wasn't an in-joke before, and since I've now publicly stated my reason and inlcuded you, it can't be an in-joke anymore. Unless you had some personal deffinition of 'in-joke', or simply meant something else by saying it.

"You are going to make some baseless assumption and avoid the question."


The assumption I just made about you using the wrong words is hardly baseless, in that you do it quite frequently. Unless you had some private deffinition of 'baseless' or simply meant something else by saying it.

"You will insult me against attacking my points 5 to 1."

While I admit I am also insulting you, I adressed both of your first two points and by doing so adress your third. It's called multi-tasking. As to the ratio you propose, I haven't really counted, but I'd say the insult/attacking of points split is closer to fifty-fifty.

In this last post for instance, while doing none of the things you predicted, I 'attacked' all three of you points.

Unless you had some private deffinition of 'predictable' or simply meant something else by saying it.
May 23rd, 2003 09:11 AM
VinceZeb Max, you are just as predictable as me.

You are going to say Vinth as some funny geek in-joke.

You are going to make some baseless assumption and avoid the question.

You will insult me against attacking my points 5 to 1.
May 23rd, 2003 09:09 AM
mburbank Alll that means is you're llazy and can't try very hard and we already knew that.

It wasn't exactly a major effort on his part, you are exceedingly predictable.
May 22nd, 2003 09:29 PM
VinceZeb If you sit around and predict what I say, then you are more pathetic than I could ever even try to be.
May 22nd, 2003 06:54 PM
mburbank OMG, someone needs to write an Eliza style computer program that simulates Vinth!
May 22nd, 2003 01:20 PM
Bennett
Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Bennett, are you going to give anything intelligent to the conversation or just say something idiotic?

I must remind you of the people that beat you up at school, Bennett. Except I am more intelligent than you as well as physically stronger.
number 3.

number 5.

how intelligent are you that if I were to spend any amount of time on it, I could map out a complete and total guide that would effectively predict any of your future posts on this message board?

own that.
May 22nd, 2003 12:55 PM
mburbank Well, as usual, you're making me do your leg work for you, but I'll see what I can do.
May 22nd, 2003 12:53 PM
VinceZeb I don't want a place where they hate you. I want a place where it is neutral.
May 22nd, 2003 12:46 PM
mburbank Alright, Vinth. I'm not the message board net geek you are, so it's not something I know all that much about. But I'll look into it.

I could suggest Brawlhall. They hate me there. It might give you a leg up.
May 22nd, 2003 12:44 PM
VinceZeb I'll allow you to pick it. Anyplace I would pick you would label as biased. So you pick it and the rules as well. I am that confident that your ideas are that idiotic.
May 22nd, 2003 12:41 PM
VinceZeb Bennett, are you going to give anything intelligent to the conversation or just say something idiotic?

*geek laugh* BWAHAHAHAH BWAHAHAHAH BWAHAHHAHA!!!! I'm so funny! Vincevolution! Man I'm so clever! I hope the people on the anime boards will think this is funny! BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!


I must remind you of the people that beat you up at school, Bennett. Except I am more intelligent than you as well as physically stronger.
May 22nd, 2003 12:40 PM
mburbank I don't hate you at all, Vinth. Quite the contrary.

"People like me will go out and do the violence to"

People LIKE you, but not you, right? People like you in every way excpet for a 'condition of hives'. Simple as that. Are you talking about your top secret, ultra private weapons incident again? Where you defended your family with a weapon, family being defined by you as 'anybody'?

Are you challenging me, Vinth? Where did you have in mind? In what Arena are you offering to 'make me your bitch'? Might it be one where the regulars can think of debate without immediately employing sexual dominance as a metaphor? Or is that what you meant by 'straight' down the line? Pick place, Nancy, and I'll think about it. Unless that's as scary as being asked to post your submarine letter after you offered to do it. Simple as that.
May 22nd, 2003 12:34 PM
Bennett new creases in the Vincevolution...
May 22nd, 2003 12:22 PM
VinceZeb Max,

First off, I never said I was a full libertarian. Second off, you are the last person to say what a libertarian believes/does not believe. I know one thing I am not, which is a socialist fool such as you.

You know what is considered rich in this freaking country? About 70,000 dollars. That is what our country considers to be "rich". Do you think that is rich, people? Probably not. I don't fight just for multimillionaires. I fight for everyone who is overburden with the task of taking care of people that refuse to do anything for themselves. They didn't ask to take care of them, why should they?

There is a BIG difference between the mentally and physically handicapped that CANNOT do one single thing that is productive and people who can that flat-out refuse to. The govt is an inefficient machine. The govt should not bend to only my whim, but the govt should not screw over the people who make the country go. That is WRONG. It is IMMORAL.

I want my country to be safe. Iraq has been a threat and would continue to be. Any other country that is a threat gets the same shit done to them. I'm sorry that I'm not a big liberal idiot like you Max that thinks we can all hold hands and sing songs to solve our problem. People like me will go out and do the violence to protect the elitist assholes like yourself.

Can't you just face the fact that the only reason you have a shred of credibility in our entire argument is because you are on this fucking message board? Any other place that is straight down the line I would make you my punching bag. You are a fucking tool, Max. I could debate you ANYWHERE that is impartial to either side and make you look like a pompous ass, which in all honesty wouldn't take much effort. That is why you don't like me. I interfere with this big comfort zone you have here. Here, you are vast and wise and oh so intelligent. Everywhere else you are an old fart who thinks like a 20 year old girl who read Zinn and thinks she is the most politically advanced mind in the world.

You can give me hell here but you can't prove me wrong. And you hate that. Here I am the minority that can hold his own. Everywhere else max... well.....


[center:42a76f8614]You. Are. My. Bitch.[/center:42a76f8614]
This thread has more than 25 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

   


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:08 PM.


© 2008 I-Mockery.com
Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.