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| Dec 3rd, 2004 06:50 PM | |||
| Emu |
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 06:21 PM | |||
| ziggytrix |
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 04:18 PM | |||
| Helm |
I don't care to entertain the notion of me being 'better' than anybody. What sort of abstract scale of betterness would one use to measure himself up to other people? That's bullshit. And since this is the philosophy board (or maybe because I'm generally tired of this) I will not reply in kind to the random insults. I'll explain myslef. I think Command Prompt is sincerily kinda stupid if he is posting there really basic and naive notions of his as if they're philosophical theorems of the highest degree, so should I not tell you that you're not AMAZINGLY BRILLIANT? It's not an insult, it's recognizing a fact. And that other person with the ass climber sig, you're like 14 (or at least you look 14? I don't know) and you've never even read one thing about all these difficult stuff you're discussing here so I thought it best to tell you to stop posting because you're not only embarassing yourself, you're also not helping the thread. I'm not telling you to stop posting on the internet, go right ahead and pump your post count until your anus starts to dribble a brown-reddish liquid. But this thread doesn't stand to gain a lot from your input, just saying. |
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 02:18 PM | |||
| derrida |
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God: LIFE IS NOT YOURS TO TAKE "pig-fuckers": Well, you heard the man: suicide and abortion are bad. But alas! I am psychologically unable to confront the prospect that innocents are indirectly killed as a direct result of my government's actions so it sure is lucky that I came equipped with this useful moral calculator! Equivocation has never been so much fun! |
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 09:40 AM | |||
| Preechr |
Free will is the ability to defy God's will. The apple and the tree of life were symbolic of mankind's self-determination, because the ability to defy God is the only thing that makes our existance anything other than some sort of dietal diversion. I don't personally believe the sum of our lives is unnecessary or whimsical, but the final result is predetermined even if the path to that point is mostly left up to us. If we sometimes make decisions in line with those that God would have made for us, it's only concidental because our decisions are only ever self-serving. The ultimate goal of free will in that it's the defiance of God is the murder of God by man, and all our actions as a species lead to that eventual conclusion. By incessantly supplanting nature with constructs of our own we are serving that goal, and most of our technological progress is leading to the eventual replacement of God's designs on every level we have so far been able to perceive with those of our own making. The nature of civilization itself is that which was found in nature, altered to benefit man specifically. Nature is treated by us as an enemy of civilization. This is argued with the idea that our ability to create technology was given to us to improve the world as it was created, but that implies imperfection in God's intentions which doesn't seem to square well with belief in a perfect creator. None of this is to say we will achieve our goal. I suppose that in our efforts to destroy God we'll have to eventually find some way to perceive her, proving her existence finally, which might lead to some ultimate plot twist in our story. This is also mostly only concerning the actions of men as a group, not our individual choices, but there's a relationship there that's more than casually linked. |
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 07:55 AM | |||
| Anonymous | I'm more than willing to admit that Helm's better than most of the people in this thread. | ||
| Dec 3rd, 2004 01:08 AM | |||
| Perndog | Doesn't it suck when you're forced to admit to yourself (though never to the rest of the world) that someone's better than you? | ||
| Dec 3rd, 2004 12:39 AM | |||
| Seven Force |
No, i'm not going to let the hairy assed geek stop me from posting. I am gonna wait till tomorrow though. I'm tired. |
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 12:35 AM | |||
| Command Prompt |
I bet Helm thinks that because he's hideous looking, he's somehow been granted superior intellect, as some kind of genetic counter-balance. Unfortunatley, fat guys use the same concept to try and convince people that they're well-hung The plausability of both is laughable at best 
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| Dec 3rd, 2004 12:06 AM | |||
| Perndog | No! | ||
| Dec 2nd, 2004 11:52 PM | |||
| Helm | Yes. | ||
| Dec 2nd, 2004 11:49 PM | |||
| Seven Force |
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But, if that's true, then why try to win over souls to God? If they're predestined to go to hell, it's a waste of effort. If they belong to God, eventually someone else will win them over. Which is what I was, strangely enough, thinking about recently. The Bible (or God) wants us to save lost souls. Frankly, I think it's enough that I believe in Him, and am willing to follow his word, but I don't want to bug people about it, and condemn things in the world. Sure, they might be wrong, but who am I to point it out and judge? I am sooo going to hell for saying that. Anyway, I haven't been in the faith nor read the Bible in a long amount of time. Where does it say he knows what we will do? All I heard was that he has a record book of the stuff we've done (which if you don't believe in Jesus, ultimately doesn't matter). It seems that he might know some things, but not everything. I don't know, maybe I should stop talking now... :/ |
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| Dec 2nd, 2004 11:09 PM | |||
| Emu |
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| Dec 2nd, 2004 11:08 PM | |||
| Immortal Goat | However, free will IS an illusion if you believe in the typical Christian beliefs. God knows everything. What you did. What you are doing. And what you WILL do. This means that everything is predestined, and free will does not exist. If god has a "divine plan", we have no real choices, just an illusion of choice. | ||
| Dec 2nd, 2004 10:55 PM | |||
| Seven Force | Free will is obviously not an illusion. | ||
| Dec 2nd, 2004 10:32 PM | |||
| Helm | No. The illusion of free will is uh, an illusion. You're stupid. | ||
| Dec 2nd, 2004 10:12 PM | |||
| Command Prompt | Because if we didn't we wouldn't be able to question anything, we'd just accept it. | ||
| Dec 2nd, 2004 09:51 PM | |||
| Brandon |
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| Dec 2nd, 2004 09:47 PM | |||
| Command Prompt |
Really? I pulled that out of first year philosophy and its full of errors. Anyhow, heres more to chew on: How can God be alive or dead? Isn't mortality existant only in the plane of the human race? "God" represents different things to different people, but the common theme for what God is, is a being that clearly exists on a different level. Would "God" not represent a being that is not subject to the restrictions of the common man? He couldn't possibly be "dead" or "alive" in any terms that we could understand. If we could, then he wouldn't be "God" However, the fact that we question his existance, doubt other's beliefs and different cultures interperet spirituality differently shows us that we all have free will, and we are free to take from it what we will Maybe this concept is imparitive to the existance of God, and as long as we run with it he is not Dead. |
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| Dec 2nd, 2004 09:21 AM | |||
| ziggytrix |
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| Dec 1st, 2004 10:07 PM | |||
| Seven Force |
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| Dec 1st, 2004 06:17 PM | |||
| Perndog |
I don't know about that. The Old Testament God invented death. But the New Testament God invented hell. |
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| Dec 1st, 2004 04:07 PM | |||
| kellychaos | :Sigh For the last time! Old Testament God is mean and New Testament God is nice. | ||
| Dec 1st, 2004 03:04 PM | |||
| Spectre X |
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Gets just a tiny little blurb in the news, and that's it. You bunch of pansies. |
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| Dec 1st, 2004 02:33 PM | |||
| Anonymous | Me too. Let's see who gets it. | ||
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