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Jun 15th, 2010 10:27 PM
MLE demonoid.com
Jun 15th, 2010 03:24 PM
The Leader
Jun 15th, 2010 03:13 PM
Fathom Zero I take that back, they don't have any at the moment.
Jun 15th, 2010 02:44 PM
The Leader Buy them for me.
Jun 15th, 2010 02:43 PM
Fathom Zero They sell them, too.
Jun 15th, 2010 02:40 PM
The Leader But can you read french?
Jun 15th, 2010 02:11 PM
Tadao Heavy Metal just cut up his graphic novels, right? I would rather just order those.
Jun 15th, 2010 01:59 PM
Fathom Zero Yes yes yes yes. Good stuff. Good stuff you can back order, no less. :D
Jun 15th, 2010 01:54 PM
wizbenny SOME of the best ones, absolutely. Moebius is a master storyteller with his illustrations.
Jun 15th, 2010 12:36 PM
The Leader OH MY GOD YES

The best ones. :>
Jun 15th, 2010 12:19 PM
MLE
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The translated version tends to appear in Heavy Metal from time to time.
Didn't Moebius draw some of the Heavy Metal comics?
Jun 15th, 2010 08:01 AM
wizbenny That's our business model as well. But to be honest, if we get the readership of other top guys, it might be interesting to see which makes more money... the online or offline components.

Of course, a good business platform doesn't rule out the cumulative "profits." That's why we'll be doing both... and we're in discussions for print versions (translated) in China, Japan, France and other countries.

All or nothing mentalities are silly IMHO.
Jun 15th, 2010 06:20 AM
Pentegarn Might be something to that.

Webcomics like OOTS and Erfworld post a hundred or so pages, then compile those into a trade paperback to sell. It is a solid business model.
Jun 15th, 2010 01:32 AM
captain516 Personally, I think a print/web combo is the way to go. I know that marvel promoted Secret Invasion online. Don't know if it worked or not, but it's a step in the right direction.
Jun 10th, 2010 10:46 AM
wizbenny Oh believe me, I'm not for abandoning, nor do I wish, the print comic market. But when I do a print version of my webcomic (which I think looks better than most comics out these days) even if its a top seller, the best I can expect is to sell 10,000. Batman and other TOP selling books sell 100k if they're lucky from the big two. It's depressing.

To put this into perspective, back when I worked at Marvel, a book selling under 30,000 units was cancelled. Now, that number is 5,000. The top-selling books at Marvel back then sold in excess of 500,000 copies consistently. Those were the numbers for the mid-to-late 90's

Just 5 years prior to that, a top-selling book sold over a MILLION copies and any book selling less than 100,000 units was canned.

Now, think about this... the price on the covers has gone UP over the years, but the margins on the books have gone DOWN. Print/pulp industries have only gotten more expensive. The costs of shipping have gone up. Now there's only one distributor, so they take more money and charge more now for their advertising in Previews. Yet the numbers have gone DOWN.

Then you add into this the fact that the core audience of comics are now engaged in OTHER activities... you have a real problem. A kid has to plunk down $50 for a new PS3 game they can play for a hundred hours or more OR they can buy a dozen comics that (frankly) are depressing and the entertainment value is over with in 30 minutes to an hour (if they're an exceptionally slow reader). Which are they going to choose? Seriously.

The core audience USED to be teens/tweens. This is an audience that doesn't HAVE disposable income. It's not like when I was growing up and I actually had a job at age 14. Heck these kids don't even do paper routes or mow lawns. And even if they do, they're STILL not going to spend money on a comic.

UNLESS (and here we get to the heart of it) they're already INTO that property from some other source... like, say, a free Webcomic.

Webcomics have a long way to go, but the readership of an average Webcomic outnumbers that of their print counterparts incredibly. My webcomic just launched last week and I've already had over 10,000 readers! That's more than most comics. Some comics (like Dreamland Chronicles) have over 10 MILLION MONTHLY READERS!!! That's 10 times the number of readers than comics had at their height!

And with iPad and other apps, these things are becoming items that can be carried.

Fundamentally something radical is going to have to occur to change things in the comic pulp industry if it's going to be saved.

I'm rooting for it, but I dispair that it may be a lost cause.
Jun 10th, 2010 04:34 AM
timrpgland I don't seem to check out web comics much but maybe someday I'll get into them. Most of my computer time is spent either gaming or working on projects. Other than that I have to get away. I like the fact that you can still go into a comic book store and pick up the issues in your hand. Let's try to still support that industry. Newspapers can fuck off... but not comics.

I still like DC and Marvel although I have to get both in select doses. I've avoided the last few special events pretty much other than the crossovers.

As long as you follow the right series/issues both of them, Marvel and DC, still produce some good stuff.
Jun 8th, 2010 02:46 PM
Fathom Zero Olivier Ledroit is a wizard. Everything he does looks freaking brilliant.
Jun 8th, 2010 02:30 PM
wizbenny Thanks for the link! I usually don't go for the dark stuff, but actually the premise sounds very interesting. I did watch that anime anthology/collection Dante's Inferno and it reminds me somewhat of that, which I did enjoy.
Jun 8th, 2010 11:36 AM
Fathom Zero I like this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_Chevalier_Vampire

The translated version tends to appear in Heavy Metal from time to time.
Jun 8th, 2010 11:24 AM
wizbenny Marvel lost me - which is sad since I practically devoured any Marvel title growing up and into my early adult years. Civil Wars were the death knell for me.

DC grabbed me for awhile with the Identity Crisis stuff and kept me until we ended up with Carebear colored power rings and all this "Dark Reign" nonsense.

Anymore, I find myself reading things by the independent guys. A lot of webcomics-turned-print like Looking For Group and PVPonline have consistently good ongoing storylines that are amusing and solid without being angsty.

Also the Eliopolis books are fun reads with my kids.
Mar 23rd, 2010 08:38 PM
Ant10708 we need more comic disscussion on these boards.

comics are too damn expensive for me to keep up with
Mar 21st, 2010 02:06 AM
timrpgland Batman & Robin has picked up pretty nicely lately. Morrison is giving us less of his "inner dialogue". Issues 8,9 and 10 are all quite solid. Streets of Gotham, on the other hand, needs to refocus.
Dec 24th, 2009 10:59 AM
BatmanJohnson
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Chew has been alot of fun for the first story arc.
I love Chew! other than the one lackluster issue. Can't wait to pick up #7 today.
Dec 23rd, 2009 11:41 PM
Ant10708 Chew has been alot of fun for the first story arc.
Dec 23rd, 2009 12:08 AM
MrSmiley381 Deadpool is always great. I love the guy.

Savage Dragon has potential to be one of the best superhero comic series out there, but Erik Larsen is usually too busy with other projects, so poor old Dragon suffers.
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