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Mar 23rd, 2003 11:05 AM
Cap'n Crunch I think it is going to be like the last war.
Mar 22nd, 2003 04:31 PM
VinceZeb Yep, being informed about the world around me is the pits. Like I said, be good sheeple and detach yourself from reality around you. We had 8 years of that under the adulter in chief, and look what that got us? Nowhere.
Mar 22nd, 2003 03:27 PM
AChimp
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I wish I could view the war in abstraction and detachment like you guys. Unfortunately, it's real to me and I have a lot invested in it emotionally and mentally. Must be nice to view it from the outside.
Are you like, waking up with the shakes or something? I guess it's to be expected that you'd be more attached since you've said you're a Gulf War vet.

The media coverage of this war so far has really been quite sickening, and that's what makes me not care. There's no objectiveness to it at all, and everything is complete speculation all the time and usually about useless facts.:

"We have just received reports that cruise missiles were fired at a rock in Northern Iraq. Let's ask our panel of 26 experts what they think for the next hour."

"Well Larry, in all likelihood, the rock was a government outpost and an important part of Saddam's regime. Of course, in my day, we would have blasted that rock for at least 3 days before moving in with a full battalion to ensure complete annihilation."

"Thank you, Irrelevant Retired Army Guy, let's move on to Backwoods Senator for her take on this turn of events."

"Without going into details that I am not allowed to divulge, we believe that it is possible an Iraqi leader *may* have thrown that rock thirty years ago, as a child. Our intelligence reports indicate that this rock held great sentimental value and this leader may have been out looking for it at the time the missile struck. We are still analyzing satellite photos before officially announcing our success at destroying this important symbol of one man's childhood."

"Thank you, Backwoods Senator. Irrelevant Current Army Guy, could you tell our viewers about the exact process that goes into the building, polishing, loading, targetting and firing of a Tomahawk cruise missile?"

"Certainly, Larry. The image that you see on the screen now is of factory workers scooping up explosives to be packed into the cruise missile.



Now, Larry, this substance is the stuff that actually makes the missile explode, so it is very dangerous; that's why we only have brown people doing this.



The missile is made of metal, and painted with enamel-based model paints, so there's no polishing involved, Larry. The brown people already have their hands full, Ha ha ha.



As you can see in this photo, Larry, the missile is loaded using a highly technical 'lifting' process. These soldiers have been highly trained in their lifting abilities and are professionals. You are seeing Privates Bart, Willard and Darryl as well as Corporal Darryl in this photo. They are all married, and Private Bart is expecting his third child this May. We wish his wife Nancy all the best with that.



This complicated diagram shows how we chose targets.



Here's where all the fun starts, people! This is your tax dollars at work. The missile has now been fully constructed and targetting and is now launched. Soon there will be a large explosion, like the one we have just witnessed in Northern Iraq concerning that rock."

"Thank you for that clear description, Irrelevant Current Army Guy. We have to break for five minutes of commercials now, but when we return we will be talking to Bill Nye the Science Guy about what exactly happens when a rock explodes and several environmentalists to discuss any impact this rock destruction will have. Next on CNN..."

Mar 22nd, 2003 02:44 PM
The Unseen Unlike usual i have completely agreed with jamesman on every single post.
Mar 22nd, 2003 12:21 PM
kellychaos I wish I could view the war in abstraction and detachment like you guys. Unfortunately, it's real to me and I have a lot invested in it emotionally and mentally. Must be nice to view it from the outside. :/
Mar 22nd, 2003 11:35 AM
AChimp I still don't care; except that it is pre-empting my favourite TV shows.
Mar 22nd, 2003 11:17 AM
CaptainBubba You wouldn't have so much contempt for him if you relieved yourself of the stress of caring about it though. See?

We would all be so much happier living in a world where all we care about are our own endeavors.

Despite this I still haven't quite taken that leap of ignorance yet. I just can't honestly say I don't care.
Mar 22nd, 2003 08:41 AM
FS My sister's boyfriend cares about the war. He cares a great deal. He cares so much, he doesn't want to miss a moment of it on TV and cheers and laughs like a retard every time there's a bombing.

I hate him so much.
Mar 22nd, 2003 02:54 AM
James That was the lamest attempt at a "No, YOU are!" comback I've ever seen.

I guess all those thoughts put into where the swastika would go on your jammies didn't leave you anything left to work with then it came to humor, or intelligence.
Mar 21st, 2003 08:52 PM
VinceZeb OHHHHHHHHHHHhh.... Go back to Fark! Man, you just showed me! I guess I should go back to a web site I just found out about 2 weeks ago to a message board I never visited! Big insult!

And I'm a love child of no one. Althought it may be possible that you are mine. Althought if I would have known how you would have came out, I would have flushed you in a rubber many moons ago.
Mar 21st, 2003 08:47 PM
CaptainBubba Still, you misunderstand. I said "Why should I bother myself with activities that give me no pleasure and don't prevent me from pursuing such pleasurable activites?"

If China intended to invade and do away with my freedom. Then absolutely, I would fight. But that is a personal issue of freedom. I classify that as my individual pursuit of happiness rather than a political issue.

I go on living because as rare as the ocassions may be, I do occasionally enjoy life. It is fun. And if oblivion is my alternative, why not continue living just for the purpose of existing?

I doubt that there will be any political event in my life so grand in scale that it will seriously challenge my ability to live a somewhat happy life, therefore I'm considering detaching myself from the burden of giving a damn.

The key thing to take in consideration when understanding this proposed stance on life is that it no longer applies when something will be detrimental to my own happiness.
Mar 21st, 2003 08:41 PM
VinceZeb I think your intelligence is proven by saying that I would like a utopia. If I was liberal, yes, but I'm not so I know it can not exist, since humans are flawed.

It's sad that you dont care about who controls your fate. Why dont you just leap off a building if that is the case? Why live?

For example, say we were taken over by China. Say we became nothing but slaves who pushed the Wheel of Pain all day. Would you fight back, or would you just go "Gee Whiz" and push the wheel?
Mar 21st, 2003 08:37 PM
CaptainBubba You're missing the point Vince. If you had really digested what I was suggesting you'd realize that I WON'T CARE who rules us. I won't care about ANYTHING. Your trivial pursuit of a non-existant utopia/distopia is just that. Trivial. Why should I bother myself with activities that give me no pleasure and don't prevent me from pursuing such pleasurable activites?
Mar 21st, 2003 08:30 PM
James Why would anyone want to replace me with you?

More importantly, why are you the lovechild of Ronnie and SolidSnakeAss? Go back to Fark.
Mar 21st, 2003 07:49 PM
VinceZeb Bubba, that is the wrong idea to have. If the founding fathers would have had that mentallity, we still would have been under the rule of England.

James, from his opinions alone, as given me the impression that he could be easily replaced in life. Just replace him with a still-living at home, over 25 years old, 400lbs virgin and no one would really care or see a difference.
Mar 21st, 2003 06:21 PM
James I cared when the WTC were attacked. America's not fooling me again.
Mar 21st, 2003 06:12 PM
CaptainBubba I'm actually very close to just wiping my mental slate clean of everything philisophcial, religious, and political. Why not? I'm usually in the minority, people hate me for that, I never gain anything of material worth besides my own self pride (which doesn't even get the fucking paper), and life is short, so why waste so much energy on things I WILL NEVER CHANGE?

I can't find a reason, so I think I'm actually going to join up with Jamesman pretty soon here. Just one more ridiculous event like this and I swear I'm going to. Really. I swear to god. :/

Ignorance is such matters is bliss.
Mar 21st, 2003 05:54 PM
Vibecrewangel
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What his opinion makes him is a prime example of the govt educated, self indulgent isolated sheeple. A perfect workerbee in a "1984" style enviorment. As long as he is fat, happy and blissfully unaware of the world around him, he can be easily ignored or mainpulated.
I like the term sheeple....most of my friends seem to be in that category. I actually had to hang up on my best friend on 9/11 when she said "Why do people keep calling me about this. It doesn't effect me. So some people died in NY. Who cares!" I had to hang up on her again on Wednesday when she said nearly the same thing about the war. And she wonders why I don't hang out with her much any more.

Interestingly enough......here is what I said before the war started (in the anti rave forum......) I mentioned the sheeple mentality....and the most of the ravers didn't get it.

It really comes down too this.....

If we choose peace, it will appear that we have backed down. We will appear weak in the face of those that consider us their enemy. Weakness is always exploited. Weakness is always attacked. 9/11 is an exapmle of that. Our complacency was our weakness. We felt so safe in our ivory tower. Indestructable. Untouchable. Unmoved by anything that didn't effect us directly. Why should we? We were America the Great. The rest of the world didn't matter. Until of course they came and kicked in our door.
Bush will not allow himself or our country to appear weak. It just isn't in his nature. So this option is very unlikely.
Mar 21st, 2003 04:23 PM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by Jamesman
Let me ask you this, then. Why DO you care about the war? What significance does it have for you? And "jumping on the faux-patriotic bandwagon" doesn't count.
I'm a Gulf War veteran who knows what sacrifice is about because I've been abroad to see those with a LOT less than I have. Besides, I personally know several people that are over in Iraq and/or Kuwait at this moment and I'd hate to think that if they died it would be for nothing and that people YOU would be a representative to their families about how America feels about them. THAT, my friend, is as real as it gets.
Mar 21st, 2003 04:03 PM
James So, you all don't care about the war either? Good.

Let me ask you this, then. Why DO you care about the war? What significance does it have for you? And "jumping on the faux-patriotic bandwagon" doesn't count.
Mar 21st, 2003 03:49 PM
Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Jamesman
Proto, I'd have to go with bastard. It's not my war. It's not my problem. So I'll just sit back, play my video games, and go on with life instead of popping a nut over a battle in Iraq.

Consider it MY way of protesting.
Protesting, my ass. You're a spoiled, pathetic, and immature fool. You, (and allow me to state that, yes, I do understand I recently posted that we needeed to be careful of who we accuse of this) are UNAMERICAN. Regardless of whether or not you agree with a war, or it's cause, your fat, loser ass is sitting home "playing video games" while other people your age are dying in the service of a country you apparently know nothing about.
Mar 21st, 2003 02:42 PM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by Bennett
this thread was much better when it went a day with only two responses. Shows exactly who doesn't care about this war.
Personally, I originally thought that it was so insulting that it didn't deserve a response.
Mar 21st, 2003 02:25 PM
Bennett this thread was much better when it went a day with only two responses. Shows exactly who doesn't care about this war.
Mar 21st, 2003 02:10 PM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by ItalianStereotype
blase
Thank you.
Mar 21st, 2003 01:59 PM
ItalianStereotype blase
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