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Jan 15th, 2008 10:20 PM
Kulturkampf No.

But reading the Bible from the perspective of a Philistine gentile 1400 BC might seem kind of unfair.
Jan 14th, 2008 12:35 AM
Jeanette X
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Jewish ethnocentrism have all been removed entirely and completely.
Do you honestly think that Jews keep their traditional laws just out of ethnocentrism?
Jan 13th, 2008 07:59 PM
Kulturkampf No no, I should have said the Ten Commandments.

Dietary laws, sacrificial rites, punishments that were meant for a group of Jewish tribes incurring persecution at every corner living in the roughest neighborhood on the Arab Street, Jewish ethnocentrism have all been removed entirely and completely.
Jan 11th, 2008 02:31 AM
Jeanette X
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Third, the OT was not overturned because Christ re-affirms it several times.
So you keep kosher then?
Jan 10th, 2008 07:24 PM
Kulturkampf First, I still drink a lot but I never fight or have casual sex.

Second, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I was a Christian even during that time of my life but merely a hypocrite.

Third, the OT was not overturned because Christ re-affirms it several times. If I need to source these you should just get a Bible and read it. It'd be good for your mind.
Jan 9th, 2008 10:26 AM
mburbank So, wait, you've turned your back on brawling, drunkeness and casual sex?

A.) Hard to believe

B.) If you have, how do we know your new found Christianity isn't just a fad like your drunken brawling that in six months time will yield to scientology, knitting or any other passtime that lodges in your shaved little head?
Jan 8th, 2008 06:39 PM
Kulturkampf Here is Sura 9:29 on a different site:

"[9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly." (source)

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177: Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


International Islamic University Of Malaysia
Jan 8th, 2008 02:08 AM
ScruU2wice
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"Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.""

And from the Haddiths, this one is great:

"
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.""


do you have any sources beside that same USC website that no one believed your first 9 posts? maybe a site that doesn't have translations in completely slanted rhetoric?
Jan 8th, 2008 12:38 AM
MattJack
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Humanity asked to leave the Garden of Eden, essentially, when it disobeyed God and this was previously known that was going to happen. The Garden of Eden is basically a position in Heaven that was present for humans and is more relevant along these lines. The serpent really did nothing other then set the stage for us disobeying God.

Christ was a Jew but He was not a zombie.

And do you deny that humans have evil desires inside of them?
I dunno man, asking and being punished for disobeying seems kinda different to a simple boy like me. Further, if God knew this shit was coming then howcome he just didn't skip the whole tree/snake thing? Why not just not put humans in the Garden of Eden in the first place?

Christ rose from the dead after being crucified, so that nigga's a zombie.

I personally don't think I have evil desires inside of me.

I don't really want to debate anymore. I'm just trying to show you that Christianity is just as silly as Islam.
Jan 7th, 2008 11:28 PM
Ninjavenom If christ overthrew the laws of the old testament, wouldn't that render the ten commandments void?
Jan 7th, 2008 11:00 PM
Kulturkampf Well, first, I am not a hypocrite anymore, Max.

And second:

Humanity asked to leave the Garden of Eden, essentially, when it disobeyed God and this was previously known that was going to happen. The Garden of Eden is basically a position in Heaven that was present for humans and is more relevant along these lines. The serpent really did nothing other then set the stage for us disobeying God.

Christ was a Jew but He was not a zombie.

And do you deny that humans have evil desires inside of them?
Jan 7th, 2008 04:08 PM
MattJack
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My religion does not encourage violence nor does it encourage polygamy nor did my Savior marry a 9 year old girl (after engaging her at age six on a suggestion).
So instead you believe that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force in your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense.

I think I saw that on a shirt a 13 year old was wearing at the parish fair or somethin, but it applies.
Jan 7th, 2008 11:27 AM
mburbank Who cares what your religion encourages? It actively discourages everything you do and yet you go merrily along not just doing it, but advocating for it. You are one man argument for the insignificance of what religion encourages.
Jan 7th, 2008 09:57 AM
Kulturkampf My religion does not encourage violence nor does it encourage polygamy nor did my Savior marry a 9 year old girl (after engaging her at age six on a suggestion).

Christ healed the ear of the man who was taking Him to His Crucifixion.

Mohammed orders the death of all who do not pay a special tax to Muslims for being allowed to live:

"Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.""

And from the Haddiths, this one is great:

"
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.""


Dec 28th, 2007 07:57 PM
Sethomas yeah what the hell? We have not been receiving nearly as many death threats in this forum as we used to.

From: ArrowX

Oct 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM YOUR DONE! I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD SETH!


Well, I guess sometimes you have to lower your standards.
Dec 28th, 2007 12:14 AM
ZAKO the GREAT seriously,
this thread is HOT!
Dec 26th, 2007 10:10 PM
ScruU2wice yeah what the hell? We have not been receiving nearly as many death threats in this forum as we used to.

time to bring your A game triad brothers.
Dec 21st, 2007 01:39 PM
AChimp I'm pleased to see that my Triad brothers have returned after all these years.
Dec 20th, 2007 08:29 PM
sspadowsky My bullshit religion is better than your bullshit religion.
Dec 20th, 2007 12:32 PM
AlliSabbah
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Only a few splinter groups still do that.

Well thats the only part I agree with so only those types of Mormons.

Although my wife always slaps me when I mention converting for some strange reason.
Dec 20th, 2007 12:08 PM
Jeanette X
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Why dont we all just become Mormon. If you take all the religion out of it they have a pretty good idea.


Multiple wives for everyone YAY!!!!
Only a few splinter groups still do that.
Dec 20th, 2007 09:01 AM
AlliSabbah Why dont we all just become Mormon. If you take all the religion out of it they have a pretty good idea.


Multiple wives for everyone YAY!!!!
Dec 20th, 2007 04:21 AM
Triad-Brother Choi While 9 seems young it is possible for it to be passed the very clear sign of womanhood.

Example from my personal being my grandmother being 13 when married and pregnant soon after. Is this bad? Maybe. Maybe modern concept of childhood is silly to my grandmother. Social norms differ wildly. Maybe religion is more personal. Maybe religion is just for you and no one needs to interfere if you do not break their silly rules. So silly rules for everyone. Good luck to all my friends.
Dec 19th, 2007 01:42 PM
mburbank This just occurred to me.

In the interests of full disclosure you should all know that my wife was nine and a half when we got married.

In hindsight, I see how it could appear that this biased my contribution to this thread.
Dec 19th, 2007 01:29 PM
AlliSabbah If you dont just make some up or change something in the bible to say it. Im counting on you for entertainment KK. Do not let me down.
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