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Apr 20th, 2003 10:32 AM
Protoclown That was cute, Ronnie.

Oh, but just so you know? I'm pretty sure they have weapons of mass destruction.
Apr 20th, 2003 06:52 AM
Ronnie Raygun I don't see any need to invade Israel.
Apr 19th, 2003 10:02 PM
AChimp Why don't we just invade the whole Middle East?
Apr 19th, 2003 09:40 PM
Abcdxxxx Syria has implicated themselves by forming a partnership with Iraq. The rulership there are Baathist. They make hostile acts of war on Israel daily. They are a holding Lebanon hostage. They allowed civillian armies to cross the border and fight for Iraq. They are harboring war criminals. Syria DOES have ties to AlQaeda and every other Middle Eastern terror group. The Tadmor jail in the Palmyran desert is a human rights nightmare. There is already a movement for liberal political reform there that should be supported.


I'm not sure anyone could make nearly as convincing of an argument to go into Iran at this time....
Apr 19th, 2003 11:48 AM
Protoclown And...that...that France! They didn't support us! And they've said some not-so-nice things about us! Let's go get them next!
Apr 19th, 2003 11:47 AM
Ronnie Raygun Right now I wouldn't say that we should go into Syria like we did Iraq......However, if it can be proven that they helped Saddam's regime and are holding his WMD and protecting members of the regime that escaped Iraq then I think we should.

I think Iran might fall on it's own.
Apr 19th, 2003 11:43 AM
Protoclown So you think we should?

Say! Isn't Iran somewhere abouts in that wacky "Middle East" area too?

Why don't we just nuke them all and turn it into a giant theme park?
Apr 19th, 2003 11:17 AM
Ronnie Raygun ....and?

If Iraq took 20 days.....Syria would take.....what?

10?
Apr 19th, 2003 10:20 AM
Protoclown But wait a minute, Ronnie. Sure, you say that our troops will be home soon...but Syria is right there and our troops are already over there, you know...
Apr 19th, 2003 10:15 AM
mburbank Way to get the point of the thread like a good conservative.




I'm working on getting Ronnie's style down.
Apr 19th, 2003 08:59 AM
Ronnie Raygun "The Iraqis ALWAYS had the right to protest Americans under Saddam."

AND!!???

Aren't you forgetting something.

THEY WERE ALSO PROTESTING SADDAM!!!

DID THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT!!??!!

Really, can you blame them for protesting......

I can't. I'm glad they have the right and the will to stand of and fight for their way of life.

Soon they will have a say in how their govt' is operated.

Soon our troops will be home.
Apr 18th, 2003 07:04 PM
KevinTheOmnivore What about that flag with Rocky Balboa on it??? Who the hell was watching Rocky IV in Iraq...?
Apr 18th, 2003 07:01 PM
Abcdxxxx
Re: AChimp's Reply

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Simard
Ever wonder where liberated Iraqis get those U.S. flags they sometimes wave?

Secret supply, meant for burning at mass rallies. Saddam kept them near his Cubans.

Now it's thos portraits of the Bush girls I find a real mystery.
Apr 18th, 2003 06:53 PM
AChimp The praise heaped upon me in this thread calls for the new pickle hat emoticon.

Apr 18th, 2003 06:09 PM
Zebra 3
AChimp's Reply

Quote:
Originally Posted by AChimp
The Iraqis ALWAYS had the right to protest Americans under Saddam.
- Nasty reminder, but so very true. Ever wonder where liberated Iraqis get those U.S. flags they sometimes wave?
Apr 18th, 2003 06:01 PM
Abcdxxxx I agree, it's ignorance, but I also think it's easy to apply an outraged reaction to articles like these due to the same ignorance.

Chalabi's crew pulled down the big Saddam statue, but there were certainly others celebrating, and yanking down posters. Hard to tell if anyone sitting in Iraq can distinguish Chalabi's group from their own. Chances are yes they can. Then again, Iraq is a place where people are used to controlled chaos. This time it's a little less controlled.... but standing in the street firing off a shot gun into the air for no reason, or maybe lots of reasons, is just something that comes natural for a lot of them. To sit here and analyze it before the dust has settled is a little too much like taking the attitude that we've all gone to the Bronx zoo and actually got to see an animal for a change.
Apr 18th, 2003 05:43 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx
I'm glad we brought the Sunni's and Shiites together as one voice in harmony and all that .... but it would be nice if articles such as this one could diferentiate between the two for the few of us who still care. If it was a Sunni cleric, or Sunni led dissent ... then that's really not much of a news story at all.
Sure it is. The argument being made by many is that NOBODY, not even those closest to Saddam, REALLY could've liked the man or supported him if other options were available. They "all" love America, and they're "all" grateful to us.

Whp pulled down the statue? Were they "IRAQIS!", or were they Ahmad Chalabi's people? See, I don't think the media is creating these generalizations intentionally, I think they truly are based on ignorance, and in that case might be slightly excusable (least of all devious).
Apr 18th, 2003 05:36 PM
Abcdxxxx
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinTheHerbivore
The Iraqi people (SURPRISE SURPRISE!) are complex, diverse, and opinionated. They CAN be happy to see Saddam gone, AND be critical of the measures that have been/will be taken!!!
Well you wouldn't know it from that article. There were protests. Who protested? Iraqis. What kind of Iraqis? Angry ones! Who are the angry Iraqis? The ones who don't like the US now!

I'm glad we brought the Sunni's and Shiites together as one voice in harmony and all that .... but it would be nice if articles such as this one could diferentiate between the two for the few of us who still care. If it was a Sunni cleric, or Sunni led dissent ... then that's really not much of a news story at all.
Apr 18th, 2003 05:03 PM
The_Rorschach
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I'll still have to agree with Vince here, unfortunately.
FASCIST!
Apr 18th, 2003 04:32 PM
mburbank Wait a minute, wait a minute, that's not even POSSIBLE!
Apr 18th, 2003 04:19 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
Quote:
Originally Posted by AChimp
The Iraqis ALWAYS had the right to protest Americans under Saddam.
I see your point here Chimp, but I think I'll still have to agree with Vince here, unfortunately.

I think Vince's point was interchangable. Take out the anti-U.S. sentiment, throw in anti-Ba'athist sentiment, and would this have happened even two weeks ago in Iraq???

It's just a bit ironic. The protests do however prove a point I've been trying to make, and one that folks like Vince have been too thick-headed to understand. The Iraqi people (SURPRISE SURPRISE!) are complex, diverse, and opinionated. They CAN be happy to see Saddam gone, AND be critical of the measures that have been/will be taken!!!
Apr 18th, 2003 11:22 AM
kellychaos Achimp always has a way of briefly stating what it takes my dumb ass a whole paragraph to communicate. If it wasn't for that olympic hockey thing ...
Apr 18th, 2003 11:01 AM
mburbank Chimp!

Excellent point, sir!
Apr 18th, 2003 11:00 AM
FS But this one guy wrote a BOOK about how he was wrong to be against the war!?

@#%$

Someone tell me what to think, please.
Apr 18th, 2003 10:59 AM
AChimp The Iraqis ALWAYS had the right to protest Americans under Saddam.
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