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Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:29 AM

that was misleading. fifty reps PER ARM with 25 lbs, 100 total; only ten eps per arm with 50s,

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 695380)
Your signature makes me not want to read any of that.

WHAT YOU BASTARD I WILL ACTUALLY JOIN GW ON THIS ONE

Sam Aug 19th, 2010 01:39 AM

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY DRAWRING GODDAMN YOU

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:52 AM

THE WINGS NEED TIO BE FINISHED, I WILL NOT LET YOU DOWN


BECAUSE MY GF JUST LET ME DOWN AND DOESN'T WANT ME TO DRIVE DOWN AND SEE HER TOMORROW EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP AND I'M FUCKING STREEEEESSED OUT ANYWAY SO I NEED TO SEE HER BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S NO WAY I CAN TELL HER THAT SO WHEN SHE TEXTS ME WITH "lol, actually my grandma just got out of the hospital early, tomorrows not a good time" I JUST TEXT BACK WITH "awright" AND THEN WHEN SHE TEXTAS BACK WITH "sorry :(" I'M ALL LIKE "lol sall good, don't worry about it" BECAUSE I DON'T WANT HER TO KNOW THAT I'M A TOTAL PUSSY INSIDE BUT SHE KNOWS ALREADY BUT SHE'S POLITE ENOUGH TO PRETEND THAT omg i'm watching an informercial for Www.armink.com, fake tattoos

this is a hilarious oh my fucking god this could be an snl skit

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:54 AM

so yeah, i suddenly have the whole fucking day to finish it tomorrow

Tadao Aug 19th, 2010 12:16 PM

Go over to GW's house and listen to my chemical romance you homobuttfaglovehole

Chojin Aug 19th, 2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Grislygus (Post 695669)
Hokay, as the the guy who already claimed popeye status, and the only guy on these forums other than chojin who can do 100 rep hammer curls with 25 lbers and 20 reps with 50 lbs, i continue to lay claim



ECCENTRIC CONCENTRIC

myofibrillar hypertrophy refers to muscle density (or actual strength; notice it matches up under the 'strength' result), and sarcoplasmic hypertrophy refers to muscle size. 20+ reps is generally only good for depleting muscle glycogen, which (unless you're carb cycling) does nothing but make you weaker and burn the shit out of you with lactic acid.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328670
btw i don't agree with everything in this article so if anyone actually reads it (doubtful) and wants clarification on anything, let me know

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:28 PM

so once I double the reps on the fifties I'm good. does the overkill factor also apply to sets? I usually do five

Chojin Aug 19th, 2010 01:36 PM

If you're doing 10 reps with the 50s, i'd increase weight, not reps. I only go over 10 reps on anything if I'm closing out a last set and want to be sure that I can increase weight the next time. Also, I'd use an 8-10 rep set in moderation (switch between 3-5 rep sets and 8-10 rep sets every month or so) or for exercises for which you are prone to injury (for example I've hurt my lower back 3 times now doing squats, so I no longer do 3-5 rep sets of those; an 8-10 rep set of squats forces me to use a lower weight to achieve the same level of muscle fatigue).

I've never seen a credible routine go over 5 sets, and most routines will have you doing 3 sets (with some exercises only needing 1 set, such as the deadlift). Lactic acid buildup is cumulative with either high reps or high sets and is the factor attributable to 'feeling the burn'. Neither a burning sensation nor soreness the day afterward is an indicator of a successful workout, so aiming for lactic acid generation through a high-set routine isn't really doing anything for you that a 3-5 set routine wouldn't.

Also it would be advisable to quit being a faggot and do compound exercises, preferably with a barbell (with certain exceptions where unrestricted ROM recruits more muscle fibers or prevents injury). I don't think you stated what it is you're doing with dumbbells, but I'm going to go ahead and assume you're doing nothing but curls, which is essentially the same as doing nothing at all. If you're just chasing a 'sick pump', pushups are a superior exercise and don't require any equipment.

Fathom Zero Aug 19th, 2010 01:54 PM

why would I want to lactate?

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:57 PM

yeah, just saw your site mentioning the 5x5 as being ideal... as far as what I'm doing, I only mentioned hammer curls. i generally do militaries, squats, regular curls, hammer curls, leg lifts, and pushups... so yeah, no compound lifting. That generally happens to people when they don't have a whole lot of free time to lift weights religiously

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 01:59 PM

'course, I can't get preachy, since i just lift weights because I can

Chojin Aug 19th, 2010 02:03 PM

you mention press, squats, and pushups which are all compound. idk what you're implying by "don't have a whole lot of free time to lift weights religiously", since compound movements cut down on your time in the weight room by working lots of muscles simultaneously (you can easily do an effective workout with 3 compound lifts).

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Originally Posted by Grislygus (Post 695717)
'course, I can't get preachy, since i just lift weights because I can

this is the among the best reasons to lift. the worst is if you're doing it for some bitch or futurebitch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fathom Zero (Post 695715)
why would I want to lactate?

milk is a great source of protein, and you can save a bundle if you produce it yourself.

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 02:08 PM

hell, the only goal I have is to figure out a way to get my sixpack back without giving up beer, liquor, red meat, and carbs. other than that, I just don't care


probably the reason that goal hasn't been achieved

Chojin Aug 19th, 2010 02:12 PM

six-pack abs are about bodyfat levels, and bodyfat levels (esp. at lower bounds) are determined entirely by diet.

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 02:13 PM

squats and pushups are compound lifts?! I thought that compound lifts involved routines like women do in excercise programs at the gym

i need to hit wikipedia, i think

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 02:16 PM

six pack is body fat. okay, so I AM buying an elliptical trainer, since it's the only cardio I enjoy... so if i make a point of actually taking it seriously, the crunches will pay off?

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 02:20 PM

for the first time in two years

Fathom Zero Aug 19th, 2010 02:45 PM

go die in a fire

Kitsa Aug 19th, 2010 05:39 PM

I had a garage sale today. Numerous interesting things happened. I sold a ballgown to a transvestite on a moped.

Tadao Aug 19th, 2010 05:48 PM

Hahhaha, we had a garage sale 2 weeks ago in L.A. Either nothing interesting happened or I'm desensitized to the strange and weird.

Kitsa Aug 19th, 2010 05:55 PM

There was this one family that had roughly 40 million kids, all badly behaved, who spread out and were into everything. I thought they were going to destroy every single thing I had for sale. In the end, they stole a bunch of small stuff, but several of the kids were visibly sick and coughing uncovered all over everything, so I didn't want it back.

We also had a woman who handed us fake million-dollar bills telling us that we were probably liars and would go to hell.

Tadao Aug 19th, 2010 06:08 PM

Chances are she got the second part right.

Chojin Aug 19th, 2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grislygus (Post 695723)
six pack is body fat. okay, so I AM buying an elliptical trainer, since it's the only cardio I enjoy... so if i make a point of actually taking it seriously, the crunches will pay off?

i had a reply all typed out and accidentally deleted it, so here's the short version:

Between the combination of exertion and the increase to metabolic rate you'll get from doing cardio frequently (as in at least every other day), you can expect to maybe burn off 500 Calories every day that you do moderate cardio for an hour. Your machine or fitness websites will tell you you're burning much more than that, but that's bullshit. For reference, a side of fries is between 500-800 Calories. Alcoholic beverages can hit 500 Calories VERY quickly because alcohol is only 2 Calories-per-gram less fattening than pure, liquified lard. A small bottle of sake has about 900 Calories. Exercise will also make you hungrier later in the day (though it blunts hunger while you're performing it).

What I'm getting at is that you will 'burn fat' much quicker and more reliably by just changing the way you eat. Switch to diet sodas. Stop drinking alcohol or limit it. When you eat fast food, stop getting combos and just order the entree by itself. For reasons I will never understand, it seems like everyone that wants to lose weight thinks the best way to go about it is to waste a lot of time and kill themselves on a treadmill. It is much more efficient to just change your diet and will also condition you better for keeping the weight off in the future.

Grislygus Aug 19th, 2010 08:24 PM

yeah, I remember your advice on multiplying the proof by 1.7 when figuring on the calories in a shot of whiskey... i don't drink sodas or eat fast food, but i REALLY don't want to give up drinking or eating red meat


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