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Supafly345 Oct 22nd, 2009 09:44 AM


Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 10:04 AM

:lol

My mom went out to dinner last night with an older neighbor of hers who is really, really into going out to restaurants.

She's very hard to please and has strict criteria...when she orders iced tea, they have to telepathically know to bring her a bowl of lemon wedges on the side, otherwise it's a "bad waitress". :\ They can't play the background music at more than a whisper because then people couldn't hear her talk. :| And they need to be all right with her holding the table for up to 4 hours if that's how long she wants to sit there. :shocked She goes out to lunch 5 times a week and dinner almost as often, so I'm sure all the area restaurant people know her by now.

Anyway, last night she managed to set her menu on fire on the table candle, then loudly complained that the music (a live musician at a grand piano) was too loud and needed to be turned down. When informed that the live musician wasn't going to play more quietly so she could be heard, she got mad and insisted that they be moved into a private dining area away from the piano.

I'm pretty glad I missed that one.

edit: She has an outdated "tip card" to calculate tip, and she follows it to a penny, literally. I have seen her count out dimes, nickels and pennies to leave $1.32 or whatever.

Zhukov Oct 22nd, 2009 10:23 AM

One thing I hate about dining with people from overseas is that they insist on leaving a tip. We don't tip in this country - I already paid for the meal why am I paying more?! I have to leave it for the waiter/ress? Their boss pays them! They have a wage!

Why?! Americans, stop invading us with your McDonalds and your culture of tipping! The restaurants are catching on and now they are starting to expect it. This is against what this country stands for.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 10:32 AM

It's just what Americans are used to. When my family's in America, we tip. When we're in Europe (especially if it's a small inn or something where the proprietor is also the server, where it's insulting) we generally follow the local rules. But here, servers expect a tip and have for a long time. It's built into their wage structure...I believe some actually receive less than minimum wage, and depend on tips to make a livable income.

Normally, in the States, I leave a 20% tip if the person has done a fairly good job. I've had some abysmal service and left some small tips accordingly, but I don't do it often. $1.32 would just be insulting to a waiter, and then you risk something happening to your food next time.

For the record, I hate McDonald's and haven't been to one in about 15 years. And that time it wasn't my idea.

Zhukov Oct 22nd, 2009 11:36 AM

Are you saying that you have to tip at McDonalds?

elx Oct 22nd, 2009 12:06 PM

waiters/waitresses are exempt from our minimum wage laws, most of them only get paid like $2/hour so the tips make up the majority of their salary. that's why we tip.

and i'm fairly certain that tips aren't allowed at fastfood chains.

Colonel Flagg Oct 22nd, 2009 12:10 PM

I always tip the restroom attendant at McDonalds for providing me with a freshly warmed moist towel. Very refreshing.

Zhukov Oct 22nd, 2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654467)
waiters/waitresses are exempt from our minimum wage laws, most of them only get paid like $2/hour so the tips make up the majority of their salary. that's why we tip.

This is insanity.

So if I go to the US to visit, which I will one day, will I be allowed to leave without tipping? How is it enforced? Now that I know that it is more of a communal wage rather than one based on a employee/employer structure, I would feel bad not leaving a huge tip anyway.

Anyone been to the type of restaurant that tells you to pay whatever you think the meal was worth? Apparantly they do very well from themselves because guilt is a strong emotion, and people love to feel good about themselves.

Dimnos Oct 22nd, 2009 12:28 PM

There is no enforcement. You dont HAVE to tip. You can get up and walk out with just paying your bill. As a tourist you probably wont have a problem with it. Regulars will get a nice side of spit with their next order though.

elx Oct 22nd, 2009 12:34 PM

the entire system is crap, a single cute waitress can make more in one night than all of her coworkers combined. it'd be nice if restaurants just paid waiters a normal rate and didn't allow tipping.

Dimnos Oct 22nd, 2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654472)
the entire system is crap, a single cute waitress can make more in one night than all of her coworkers combined. it'd be nice if restaurants just paid waiters a normal rate and didn't allow tipping.

True. They just need to do away with the gratuity system. If you are worried about quality of service hire some managers that actually pay attention to their wait staff.

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Boogie (Post 654315)
Guys, pub has posted in this thread 10,338 times.

And not a one worth reading. :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654472)
the entire system is crap, a single cute waitress can make more in one night than all of her coworkers combined. it'd be nice if restaurants just paid waiters a normal rate and didn't allow tipping.

Don't worry, Lass. I'll tip you. I'll tip you all night long. :(

Dr. Boogie Oct 22nd, 2009 05:27 PM

When you get up to 11,000 posts, you might just get your editing privileges back.

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 09:09 PM

Ha, do I also get a postcount reset? :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654515)


well that just doesn't make sense..what could possibly go wrong

Need more of this please. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654486)
i've noticed a theme. every single girl posted in this thread has dark hair/eyes. :(
whats with that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 654534)
<3

I thought that thread was creepy before I posted in it. :(

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhukov (Post 654454)
One thing I hate about dining with people from overseas is that they insist on leaving a tip. We don't tip in this country - I already paid for the meal why am I paying more?! I have to leave it for the waiter/ress? Their boss pays them! They have a wage!

In the US, they don't have a wage. The average is just over $3 an hour and all tips have to be reported and taxed. When I worked at a local restaurant, the person training me got a paycheck for negative 22 cents due to the taxes from her tips.

In other words, shut up

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 09:23 PM

Yeah, we'll shut up about thinking waiters are hard working employees that deserve a salary that conforms to minimum wage.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 09:24 PM

he just didn't know how it works here, it'd be hard to understand if you only saw it from outside the US.

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 654541)
Yeah, we'll shut up about thinking waiters are hard working employees that deserve a salary that conforms to minimum wage.

and while we're out changing the way the world works, let's all agree to kill the fags, stop being racist, and appreciate classical music

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsa (Post 654542)
he just didn't know how it works here, it'd be hard to understand if you only saw it from outside the US.

i don't log in to the internet to be reasonable.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 09:27 PM

The last McDonald's I went to was in Verona, Italy. It was completely unlike any McDonald's I knew. A server with white gloves tonged your salad into the styrofoam container and handed it to you. I've got a picture of it somewhere...when I find it I'll edit this and add it.

Aaarg Oct 22nd, 2009 09:35 PM

What do they call a quarter pounder in Italy?

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 09:35 PM

Today I put on underwear that was 8 sizes too big for me, and it caught on my thighs.

Uh oh.

:oao

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 09:36 PM

no idea, my dad always ordered us unpleasantly large amounts of Chicken mcnuggets :(

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chojin (Post 654543)
and while we're out changing the way the world works

That isn't how THE WORLD works. Just your part of it.

It is a pretty good part overall, though. :(

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 654551)
That isn't how THE WORLD works. Just your part of it.

It is a pretty good part overall, though. :(

Yes it is. America is part of the world. Ants being hill enthusiasts is also part of how the world works, you fgt.

The first thing they teach you in AA is to accept the things you cannot change. Then they teach you how to smoke to cope with your other addictions.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 10:16 PM

oh, fuck it, I'll just stick it here.


Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 10:17 PM

:pagebrak

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioneer (Post 654556)

This picture needs more Willie wearing sunglasses.

I am not sure if he should have his arms folded and a grim look on his face, or a grin and some cheerful little thumbs hitting the air.

Pub Lover Oct 23rd, 2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 654568)
Wow, that was a super gay song there Carnivore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 654578)
I don't know that history. :whooshovermyhead

He looks like the guy from Creed. When anyone mentioned the resemblance he would be irked. Not a lot of back-story really.

Tadao Oct 23rd, 2009 01:28 AM

I knew Chojin changed the video, but I wanted to help get him stirred up. I'm glad I don't look like Creed guy.

Chojin Oct 23rd, 2009 04:00 AM

actually the story was that being accused of loving creed threw him into fits of rage

Zhukov Oct 23rd, 2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chojin (Post 654539)
In the US, they don't have a wage. The average is just over $3 an hour and all tips have to be reported and taxed. When I worked at a local restaurant, the person training me got a paycheck for negative 22 cents due to the taxes from her tips.

In other words, shut up


Actually I was talking about why I should have to leave a tip for wait people in my country, where they receive a wage.

The minimum wage in Australia is $AU14.30, which would equal about 8.10 pounds and $US13.23.

Aaarg Oct 23rd, 2009 09:21 AM

Damn. I think minimum wage here is like $7.25US.

stevetothepast Oct 23rd, 2009 01:14 PM

min wage in canada is like CDN$8.50 I think?

Tadao Oct 23rd, 2009 01:31 PM

When I waited on tables, I made U.S. Minimum plus tips. I love California.

Fathom Zero Oct 23rd, 2009 04:14 PM

They make minimum wage here in Oklahoma.

Kitsa Oct 23rd, 2009 06:17 PM

I had a shitty afternoon. Among other things, a cranky elderly neighborhood lady was complaining about the fact that kids trick or treat. She didn't want to deal with it and besides, she wanted to keep the candy for herself. She was counting how many kids on the street might annoy her on Halloween, and she pointed at my stomach and said, "And that'll be another one."

If I were less strictly schooled in manners, I might have said something nasty.

Tadao Oct 23rd, 2009 06:35 PM

like "Don't worry, I'll teach mine to stay away from creepy old witches house."?

Kitsa Oct 23rd, 2009 06:39 PM

Strike one was when she told me that I shouldn't have wasted money burying my infant twins when they died last year, that I should have just had the hospital throw them away.

Strike two was when she saw my mom walking my dog and went over to ask if my mom knew how easy it was to kill a dog.

This was strike three, and even though I managed to hold my tongue because of the company I was in, I still have all these black bats of rage flapping before my eyes, you know?

She certainly does not have to worry about my bringing a kid to her house to trick or treat. She's the kind of person who would give out poisoned candy, if there is such a type.

Tadao Oct 23rd, 2009 06:45 PM

That neighborhood is gonna turn you into a killer.

Kitsa Oct 23rd, 2009 06:47 PM

It just might.

The thought that there are more people like that in the world angers and frightens me.

executioneer Oct 23rd, 2009 06:53 PM

bitch needs to get egged

Kitsa Oct 23rd, 2009 06:58 PM

with grenades

executioneer Oct 23rd, 2009 06:59 PM

in the mouth

Kitsa Oct 23rd, 2009 07:02 PM

I forgot to tell you about when she was delighted to find a nest of bunnies in her yard. She poisoned all of them.

She also regularly calls Animal Control if she hears anyone's dog barking.

Colonel Flagg Oct 23rd, 2009 09:22 PM

She needs a horseradish enema.

Kitsa Oct 23rd, 2009 09:44 PM

It's almost like those old bats in the movies, you know, like the one in the Wizard of Oz who takes Toto or the old bitch in Gremlins who wants to kill the dog. Before I moved to this neighborhood I had a hard time believing that that sort of person actually existed, but they do. There are a lot of mean, selfish people out there who get joy out of making others miserable.

elx Oct 23rd, 2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioneer (Post 654556)

THIS IS NOT A PICTURE OF ME, I APOLOGIZE

i thought this was a hotwheel with a little lego man in it :(

Babs Oct 23rd, 2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsa (Post 654681)
Strike one was when she told me that I shouldn't have wasted money burying my infant twins when they died last year, that I should have just had the hospital throw them away.

Strike two was when she saw my mom walking my dog and went over to ask if my mom knew how easy it was to kill a dog.

This was strike three, and even though I managed to hold my tongue because of the company I was in, I still have all these black bats of rage flapping before my eyes, you know?

She certainly does not have to worry about my bringing a kid to her house to trick or treat. She's the kind of person who would give out poisoned candy, if there is such a type.

What an old whorish bitch.

Is this old hag a remarkable old creature that can sit on the end of a broom stick and take off? Can she actually achieve flight?

Pub Lover Oct 24th, 2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chojin (Post 654586)
actually the story was that being accused of loving creed threw him into fits of rage

You're right. It was that long complicated story, not my long complicated story at all.

Pub Lover Oct 24th, 2009 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsa (Post 654717)
There are a lot of mean, selfish people out there who get joy out of making others miserable.

In here too. :(

Pub Lover Oct 24th, 2009 12:29 AM

:pagebrak

executioneer Oct 24th, 2009 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654725)
i thought this was a hotwheel with a little lego man in it :(

it does kind of look that way i guess :( i wish it'd been a more subtle color but what the hey it was a good deal!

Fathom Zero Oct 24th, 2009 01:40 AM


Chojin Oct 24th, 2009 03:20 AM

I know none of you read Art Shit, so prz to be reading this thread and leaving comments:

http://i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69703318

10,000 Volt Ghost Oct 24th, 2009 03:51 PM

So boring today. My saturday mornings consist of me being really busy at work. Saturday afternoons are really slow at work. Saturday nights are really busy at the bar, except by now I'm the customer.

Kitsa Oct 24th, 2009 03:57 PM

I put a wig on my mom's cat once and she got really pissed :(

I thought I was being considerate, making sure it had ear-holes and all.

LordSappington Oct 25th, 2009 12:21 AM

Is it bad when your doctor tells you to come hear your blood results in person? :<

elx Oct 25th, 2009 12:35 AM

nah babysappyton, they do that always, to everyone

Fathom Zero Oct 25th, 2009 12:37 AM

Why give results over the phone? That could potentially be unsafe.

LordSappington Oct 25th, 2009 12:41 AM

I'm just real nervous; I already got a letter yesterday saying they want me to come in for more blood-work, and now I get another one saying they want to talk to me about the LAST results....
I hate doctor stuff. :(

elx Oct 25th, 2009 01:39 AM

if it were something serious they would have warned you about it on the phone, don't worry

Zhukov Oct 25th, 2009 04:52 AM

I'm seriously thinking about taking all my vast savings of money and opening a book shop.

Fathom Zero Oct 25th, 2009 05:42 AM

As a hobby or legitimately?

Zhukov Oct 25th, 2009 06:16 AM

Legit. A small shop with used and specialist books and literature. Probably art, games and collectables as a side. It's a dream so far, I haven't seriously looked into what it's going to cost, although I have got a bit of money.

The area that I have been thinking of has one chain bookshop and that's about it.

Fathom Zero Oct 25th, 2009 06:20 AM

That would've been my first bit of advice. While I'm not a smart person by any means, I would assume that the most opportune place would be somewhere without many of them. Sounds cool, then.

Aaarg Oct 25th, 2009 08:36 AM

Well, you do have to be careful. Sometimes a town doesn't have a particular shop because there's no demand for it.

There's only one video game store here, and it's dead all the time (except when they host D&D sessions).

But then again, no matter how stupid the general population of a town is, there's always a market for books.

Aaarg Oct 25th, 2009 10:43 AM

DBLPST:
reaping the benefits of working in a grocery store
- the abundance of large bags of dog food being busted in transport prevents one from having to purchase dog food
- the cheap plastic on the eight-packs of gatorade cause the rings to break frequently resulting in 8 bottles of gatorade in the milk cooler, free to employees in the know
- finding a box of frozen food in the back of the freezer that was discontinued months ago--the food still in date--will provide many nights of TGIF chicken quesadillas (not the healthiest but the price is right)

captain516 Oct 26th, 2009 01:34 PM

Good luck, Zhukov.

Colonel Flagg Oct 26th, 2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSappington (Post 654825)
I'm just real nervous; I already got a letter yesterday saying they want me to come in for more blood-work, and now I get another one saying they want to talk to me about the LAST results....
I hate doctor stuff. :(

So what's what, Sapster? Is it serious or is elx right and you're worrying about nothing?

Inquiring minds want to know, dammit. >:

Dimnos Oct 26th, 2009 01:58 PM

He has the anemia and will need a marrow transplant. :tear

Colonel Flagg Oct 26th, 2009 02:11 PM

Just so long as it's not the dieabeetus. :tear :Ranny

RaNkeri Oct 26th, 2009 02:19 PM

:rolleyes

Chojin Oct 26th, 2009 03:07 PM

question - if i delete people from my friends list on facebook, does it tell them?

when i started, facebook went on a rampage adding everyone from my high school and i don't even know most of these fgts

Fathom Zero Oct 26th, 2009 03:08 PM

Man.

Toys is a good movie.

Kitsa Oct 26th, 2009 03:13 PM

chojin- I think you just don't show up on their friends list anymore. At least, that's what I hope, because I'm contemplating a massive facebook purge myself.

Fathom Zero Oct 26th, 2009 03:27 PM

They don't get an indicator, if that's what you're wondering. Same goes for Myspace.

LordSappington Oct 26th, 2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 655107)
So what's what, Sapster? Is it serious or is elx right and you're worrying about nothing?

Inquiring minds want to know, dammit. >:

I'm getting my brain looked at and stuff; I've been having massive memory loss lately, my eyes won't focus for hours at a time, disorientation, muscle spasms in my right arm, and other strange things. :(
Uhm, did 'memory loss' show up as an ad link for anyone else? :?

Kitsa Oct 26th, 2009 07:55 PM

nope, I keep getting Bowling for Soup.

Fathom Zero Oct 26th, 2009 08:06 PM

SIX FLAGS. MORE FLAGS, MORE FUCKING FUN.

Sam Oct 26th, 2009 09:03 PM

FUCKING HELL

elx Oct 26th, 2009 09:03 PM

welcome back samantha

Colonel Flagg Oct 26th, 2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSappington (Post 655192)
Uhm, did 'memory loss' show up as an ad link for anyone else? :?

Nope. G2G dating. (big surprise) :rolleyes

Guitar Woman Oct 27th, 2009 07:35 AM

Do you guys know any good remedies for restoring sleep schedules

My flow's been completely fucked for about a year, and since I started college I usually get to bed around 4 AM if I sleep at all.

This would be fine if sleep deprivation didn't fuck you up; my head feels empty most of the time and I have ridiculous luggage building up underneath my eyes

King Hadas Oct 27th, 2009 08:14 AM

Don't go to sleep, stay up until it's an appropriate time to go to bed (between 7-12). If that doesn't sound appealing then take a power nap.

When I have to get up early but stayed up too late I set my alarm clock a few hours before I want to get up. When it goes off I get up, set the alarm a half hour ahead and go back to bed. By the time I have to get up I'm wide awake.

Supafly345 Oct 27th, 2009 08:15 AM

Don't go to bed until the next night. I have to do this every so often, but it still depends on how stubborn your clock is.

Zhukov Oct 27th, 2009 09:34 AM

Yeah, if you find yourself going to bed at 4am, just don't go to bed. You'll be sufficiently tired by the time 11:30pm comes around. And for god sake don't take pills, they'll just fuck you up more.

Guitar Woman Oct 27th, 2009 10:57 AM

You guys think I haven't tried that shit :<

I do that at least once a week and tell myself, "Ok, this time I'm really gonna get back on track"

Then I wake up at 8, go to sleep at 10, and fuck up my schedule again the next day

MarioRPG Oct 27th, 2009 11:15 AM

How about doing your school things during the day. If you don't finish, fuck it.
Then going to bed.

Chojin Oct 27th, 2009 11:37 AM

i have the same problem, gw ;<

since i've been tracking my diet like a hawk, i noticed on my chart that i lose a full day every 2 weeks or so

Guitar Woman Oct 27th, 2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioRPG (Post 655269)
How about doing your school things during the day. If you don't finish, fuck it.
Then going to bed.

If passing my courses still didn't matter I'd have this attitude but we can't all be high school students forever

King Hadas Oct 27th, 2009 12:11 PM

Sleeping habits, you got to be consistent. Go to bed at the right time, wake up at the right time. What's the use in getting your hours straight one day only to fuck them up the next. You have to be like the samurai, always aware of his own death (bedtime).

Kitsa Oct 27th, 2009 02:56 PM

When I was a kid, my mom used to "clean up" my room by throwing anything that was out into a rubbermaid tub and putting the rubbermaid tub somewhere I couldn't get to it. It was a fast way to clean a room, yeah, but then I was wondering where the hell my clothes and homework and crayons and all that were. So years later (sometimes 20 years later) I'd find these bins and bam, it's like a fucking time capsule. That's why I have all my school papers and toys from when I was a kid.

Found another "time capsule" today, from when my parents moved states and threw all my stuff into boxes. It's been in sealed storage for 7 years. I went through it today...all the paperwork that went missing from college and work (so that's where my dental insurance card went), ancient toiletries, even a bagful of candy from my desk at work. It's a weird phenomenon around here but kind of fun.

Perhaps not coincidentally, I grew up feeling panicked that I couldn't stand guard over my stuff all the time.

MarioRPG Oct 27th, 2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman (Post 655272)
If passing my courses still didn't matter I'd have this attitude

That sucks man, but 'passing' has never been a problem for me. Now, if I were aiming for high 80s then I'd probably be in your shoes. What are you taking anyway / what year of your program?

Dr. Boogie Oct 27th, 2009 05:09 PM

If you do some kind of intense exercise during the day, you should be sufficiently tired by the time night rolls around.

Fathom Zero Oct 27th, 2009 05:29 PM

It's Guitar Woman. :lol

Dr. Boogie Oct 27th, 2009 06:08 PM

Then he should preen like a girl for 30 minutes a day instead of 15.

Kitsa Oct 27th, 2009 06:20 PM

sleep patterns can be pretty ephemeral. It could be that this is just a phase that will transition into something else later.

Dimnos Oct 27th, 2009 06:36 PM


Tadao Oct 27th, 2009 06:40 PM

Dude, meth is the answer you are looking for.

kgp4death Oct 27th, 2009 09:41 PM

Yes, I agree methane right from the asshole of a young cafe.


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