I didn't use an ad hominem, idiot. An ad hominem isn't an insult, it's when you use somebody's bad character to act as though their argument must therefore be false. it would be like if I said, "he says the moon landing is real, but he's an asshole and a jerk and also insane. So therefore his argument must be bad."
I didn't say knowing what a false dichotomy would make you feel like an idiot. I just thought you might feel like an idiot when you realized your two choices weren't completely extensive. and actually i didn't even really think you would feel like an idiot. Quote:
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Guys the authorities on this subject have spoken and if you're willign to take the word of a few nutjobs on t he internet then your name must be kahljorna nd your and idiot and that's all there is to it.
Quite frankly as a layman you only have two choices and that's to believe nutjobs on the internet or to believe the authorities in the field who have a 100% consensus as to what happened and if you want to do the first one then you're an idiot and your opinion doesn't matter. |
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I dunno its a hairy subject. Scientists could provide some evidence but they can't really be an authority. And just because somebody is an authority doesn't make what they say right. it just makes it part of the consensus. An authority is somebody who has a degree which is relevant to the suggested claim (in this case, its anthropological, not scientific) and who states the consensus. Otherwise they are not an authority. Being an authority is basically just being an authority on consensus. Quote:
No, science, can never say whether something is "true." Although maybe it can EVENTUALLY because some people think it's cumulative and we can reach a point where we know everything about the universe with certainty. There's differing opinions. Quote:
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You may have some valid points on this subject Kahl but you argue them like such a fucking toss-piece it's very difficult to agree with any of them and ultimately I think you're just trying to piss people off - so why bother? |
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Anyway, if you read my post closely you'll notice I never said that things can't be true. Quote:
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the moon isn't even real they blew up the moon when they tried to land on it and had to replace it w/ a piece of foam rubber
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and that statemnt is supported by 27 different foam rubber experts.
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also try looking up, "Equivocation." so which "ad hominem" is it you were talking about, anyway. Personally I think what you said makes no sense if you take it to mean an insult, since the event which you were referring to as an ad hominem was when I tried to sound "Smart" which must mean when I was using the word false dichotomy? There was no insult there except maybe, "Blow your mind." Or was it the crap about how space scientists aren't qualified experts on if the moon landing happened? Either way, they weren't insults or "ad hominems." The only ad homineyish things I even posted didn't even look like they were trying to sound smart. but i guess im pedantic. I think your usage of ad hominem was kind of ad homineyish like ive done something wrong and my argument is worth ignoring because it's just showoffey. |
I think a lot of what nietzsche says makes sense :(
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It was kind of a lampoon. Pretty high-brow stuff I know, though I thought the rest of the post would've given you a clue. But thanks for clearing that up. This is quite a fascinating and important exchange which merits every point being covered. |
Oh well next time you're putting on an act maybe you could dedicate yourself fully and actually try to encompass the character you are trying to portray fully. Like in this instance you could've actually tried to be intelligent.
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if you were going to see brilliance it should PROBABLY be in the actual arguments but maybe you can only focus on the irrelevant things because you are the king of irrelevancy. and man I didn't expect you to argue with my so long its something else. |
when i was in my teens i would frequently believe that my whole existence up to that point was a fabrication and that all my memories were false, does that count as a conspiracy theory or is that just mental illness :(
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Jesus Christ, what the fuck am I doing with my life?
This is the most pointless discussion I've ever had the misfortune to become entangled in. Kahl, I'm just going to block you, okay? And I'd like you to do the same thing to me, okay? Hopefully that way we'll never find a situation where such a vast quantity of utterly pointless bollocks can accumulate again. Sound good? Wait, I'll never hear the answer so I'll just assume a yes. |
lol its just being skeptical :(
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:lol i actually got blocked
man that's like getting the infinite last word in I GUESS METAL MILITIA WINNNSSS |
So how about the one where Anti-virus software companies are actually making viruses so they won't run out of a job?
I was reminded of it after seeing that story about the reporter in Brazil accused of orchestrating crimes so he could film them for his show. |
He basicaly gave you a big "talk to the hand" Kal.
As for conspiracy theories I actually believe in *WTC 7 Collapse *JFK Assasination, Was Oswald a patsy or the real asassin? Grassy Knoll sniper? *Project Jennifer, Did the Submarine k-129 broke in half or was it fully recovered with the nuke warheads? *Did the nazis really make a moonbase? ok the last one was made up As for theories about Lizard people or Illuminati. Theres simply not enough evidence wether they exist and is only mostly speculation. |
The WTC7 thing really bugs me.
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I don't really believe any conspiracy theories, but I reeeeally enjoy the nazi occult stuff. Even if it's all bullshit, it's cool to read about.
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Well Himmler was really serious about the occult stuff. They had secret occult rituals deep beneath his lair called Castle Wolfenstein. ^^
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