I believe the original inquiry was "Does Obamacare have Death Panels?"
Correct? and we found out it does through my diligent research. Your Welcome. |
most people don't consider an unsourced opinion article to be convincing proof. especially not for something like "death panel" which was originally a criticism of something different and apparently has no real definition. i bet a lot of people make fun of you when you try to communicate your opinion entirely through copypasting alarmist blogs with varying levels of boldness and font size. is that because everyone is stupid but you? or maybe there's a simpler reason.
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I have a serious question, are you for all of these things, the death panels, corporations running the government, etc? I'm wondering because while you post almost nothing but all of these decidedly negative viewpoints, one of your suggestions to me via pm was to get a job. You've also mentioned how you have a corporate job so I am just wondering if you support these corporations and their manipulations? I get a decidedly negative feeling from your posts but the fact that you claim to not follow the masses while suggesting people support the corporations, which I think are ruining the world, causes some confusion. |
OH OH! MEW IS ABOUT TO POUND HIS FIST INTO A WALL.
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Are Obama death panels real? Yes. |
You also can't show us where you got the information from.
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Dont you know? His ass.
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Research new Health Technology Assessment and Peter Orszag. You will find it there. |
Why? Why can't you just post another link and why can't you answer my last serious question about your support of corporate dominance of society?
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I couldn't find anything to the contrary. I'm sorry to say it but bubble head Sarah Palin was actually right. Wow. |
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When I re-read your posts you come off as a hypocrit. You blame the government for even more horrible things then most people already do and then go along your merry way telling people to "get a job." You're the perfect puppet of the shadow government. You are fully aware of their operations but what do you do to stop them? Nothing. You make a little blog online and post on some forums and that is the extent of your anti-government/corporate activity.
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I would suggest you open your mind to what's really going on under the surface. Good luck. |
He writes using a internet connection and computer purchased with corporate blood money.
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i find this coolinator offensive as his method of argument is one far better suited to a machine, and for a living human to initiate it is incredibly inefficient.
here's just a basic idea of automated processes look for a forum that a cursory search includes the word 'obama', but doesn't include the word 'obamacare'. this is a fair enough bet that it's both a politically minded forum, and one in need of further education. look for a post with a title about health care, it doesn't matter how old it is. and open up with a reply about death panels. something generic about the government, hope and change, something about a birth certificate. it's not really important as long as it's nonspecific to whatever the conversation may have originally been. every 2-5 replies quote the 2-3 most recent and reply with an opinion editorial or conspiracy theorists blog. you can have a large list but really just one per forum is fine. have a few other preset lines like, 'people always insult me instead of addressing my factual facts' and various phrasings of asserted victory. by adjusting the posts based on the volume of replies and certain keywords i believe it could be relatively convincing. this could free up countless hours to expound your important ideas via other mediums. i don't particularly like the kind of work that increases the level of human suffering, but i'm sure you could find someone willing to develop this system for you. |
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that's like asking HOW COME ONLY CANCER PATIENTS CAN GET CHEMOTHERAPY? most of the things you listed have alternatives or are things you do as a last resort anyway. Also, pay for your own shit? Jesus, if i go into a hospitol and tey say, "SORRY CANT SAVE YOUR LEg CAUSE YOUR INSURANCE CANT COVER IT" i might just go, "OH HEY PUT IT ON My tAB" since they can't legally refuse treatment. Again, the COMMITEE doesn't decide whether people live or die it just makes decides if they are going to pay for it or not. Which isn't really so bad because the alternative is that people have to pay for everything. Furthermore although the state might not cover it, other insurance companies probably will and it should be easier to get coverage from them with this bill. Oh yea and I recall seeing something about medicaid and social services receiving cuts? Well, now that there will be nationwide medical coverage many programs which were designed to help people with medical costs will no longer be needed. |
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Also, Coolinator, how is a Death Panel committing genocide against the American people? |
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Firstly, no, the "Death Panels" will not be killing people. By your own statement, they will be refusing care which may lead to death. Killing by proxy at a MASSIVE stretch.
Secondly, to be genocide it would mean that the "Death Panels" aim is the complete and purposeful elimination of this national group. I hope you aren't mad enough to suggest that Obama's aim in creating "Death Panels" is the elimination of the entirety of the US people. Thirdly, the "DEATH PANELS" (I will never feel comfortable saying that) will be run by US citizens, so for it to be genocide they would have to be eliminating themselves. Eliminating themselves as a national group by refusing themselves treatment for life threatening illnesses. Do you have ANY idea how insane you are? Stop saying it's genocide. If you read it somewhere then perhaps whomever said it isn't as smart as you once thought, and if you made it up yourself, try to think things through next time before you say them and defend them doggedly. |
I have to agree with Kahl. The difference between the people who ration out care under Obamacare vs the ones at insurance companies is irrelevant. Hell if anything the fact it will be rationed out by the government means they will be less worried about making the company a profit. Which means your probably more likely to get covered. You see Medicare/Medicaid already exist and already have government employees who determine whether or not you get covered. Guess what. They cover people who are never going to get better. People who will never get well enough to hold down a job. People who will never be "contributing members of society". Are they left to their fate denied medical aid and coverage? No. Simply no. I still say to call it a "death panel" is a grotesque misconception.
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I doubt they are going to kill everyone with the rationing but we are going to see a lot of deaths nonetheless. Quote:
Remember, Oligarchy: They ration your care They reduce your standard of living They pass laws you have to follow ........This is for you....not them or their employees. |
No, it's not. Zhukov isn't American.
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