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Colonel Flagg Jun 19th, 2009 10:38 PM

Science!
 
Taking Tadao's implicit advice ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634471)
I understand inertial propulsion, i'm slightly insulted that you assumed I had never previously learned of it. It's not all that fascinating to me either, but that's just because i'm more interested in the universe than physics itself.

With all due respect, you say you are not interested in physics, only in the universe, but to really understand and study the universe, you first will need to master basic and advanced physics. Classical Mechanics, Electromagnetism, Quantum Mechanics all are precursor courses to Astrophysics. I know that you want what you want, but in order to study effectively you need the foundation first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634471)
also, i do still believe that every action has a reaction and every cause has an effect - so i'd be more than happy to debate that last bit with you.:)

My expertise is in Chemical Physics (spectroscopy, lasers and quantum phenomena), and classical mechanics was a basic weakness of mine in college. However, I'm game, if you are willing to keep an open mind. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioneer (Post 634480)
i think getting space elevators to work and making ion propulsion more efficient are more practical goals to work for :(

I concur. :posh

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioneer (Post 634497)
yeah a space elevator is a elevator to space, its cheaper than launching shuttles all the time (or should be!) + if we get efficient space travel we can like mine the asteroids or soem sh*t plus then people can vacation on mars or something idk

More than this, we could begin to construct substantive solar arrays in space, then beam the total collected energy back to earth in the form of microwaves. It would take a great deal of additional infrastructure, but the returns are obvious – NO MORE FOSSIL FUELS EVER!

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioneer (Post 634520)
inertial drive, why not invent a perpetual motion device while you're at it D:

For all its established existence and ancient aphorisms (objects at rest tend to remain at rest blah blah blah) inertia is not well-understood at the quantum level. Some feel that the subatomic soup that everything moves through (a.k.a. virtual particles, made popular by R.P. Feynmann) gives rise to inertia. If true, then it may also be true that this soup can be somehow rearranged to make motion not only less difficult, but preferred. This is, I believe, the inherent basis for the idea of “inertial propulsion” (and it's not perpetual motion!)

Any other ideas?

Dixie Jun 19th, 2009 10:53 PM

I got a weird bump on my knee, it's kind of shaped like florida.
what is it?
do i need to see a doctor?

elx Jun 19th, 2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 634569)
Taking Tadao's implicit advice ...
With all due respect, you say you are not interested in physics, only in the universe, but to really understand and study the universe, you first will need to master basic and advanced physics. Classical Mechanics, Electromagnetism, Quantum Mechanics all are precursor courses to Astrophysics. I know that you want what you want, but in order to study effectively you need the foundation first.

well sir, I did not say or intend to imply that I was not interested in physics, because I am very much so. I am going to become an astronomer, not an astrophysicist, but I'm used to saying 'astrophysicist' instead of 'astronomer' because people tend to confuse astronomy with astrology. much like if I said I wanted to become a 'cosmologist' people would automatically assume I meant a 'cosmetologist'. (although in most situations they are interchangeable so I guess I didn't really need to clarify!)

what I did say was that I was not interested in physics itself, in other words, physics alone does not fascinate me. I'm not looking forward to having to study exclusively in a physics undergraduate program. I like it when it's being applied to the universe, when it's helping me to learn and (somewhat) understand it. I like spending my nights outside with a telescope, or creating sky charts, not inside reading the general theory of relativity. what I love is astronomy, which is in essence, the science of everything - not just physics.

Dixie Jun 19th, 2009 11:05 PM

DON'T IGNORE ME
I'M TRYING TO FUCK UP YOUR THREAD

elx Jun 19th, 2009 11:07 PM

I believe this means you have breast cancer, if you'd like i'd be more than happy to help you with your self-examination.

Dixie Jun 19th, 2009 11:09 PM

THIS ISN'T OVER

ps-you're too young for me, no talk of your hands and my tits you little pervert

Tadao Jun 19th, 2009 11:12 PM

:wank

Dixie Jun 19th, 2009 11:13 PM

i should have known

Esuohlim Jun 20th, 2009 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634572)
I am going to become an astronomer, not an astrophysicist, but I'm used to saying 'astrophysicist' instead of 'astronomer' because people tend to confuse astronomy with astrology.

This sentence is awful.

HELLO NERD THREAD HERE'S A GREAT SPACE JOKE ABOUT SPACE :rolleyes

WHAT DID THE SARCASTIC ARCTURUS SAY WHEN THREATENED BY SPICA?

"OH MAN, I'M SHAKING IN MY BOÖTES" :rolleyes

Evil Robot Jun 20th, 2009 12:11 AM

This thread sucks, lets make fun of it.

Dimnos Jun 20th, 2009 01:47 AM


Esuohlim Jun 20th, 2009 01:54 AM

DID ANYONE KNOW THAT PULTO IS NOT A PLANET ANYMORE? :eeek

kahljorn Jun 20th, 2009 02:51 AM

i read an article a while ago about how they were building a space elevator using a cable made out of buckys ;\

i also think that its great and would definitely save on the time, energy and convenience of getting into outerspace. It's probably one of the most important things in order for us to become space-faring.

Misdemonar Jun 20th, 2009 03:40 AM

MAN

Misdemonar Jun 20th, 2009 03:41 AM

WHAT THREAD IS THIS

DevilWearsPrada Jun 20th, 2009 04:39 AM

serious homo magazines?

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 06:08 AM

Hey, I started this thread! >: OF COURSE IT SUCKS!!

elx - I'm trying to take you seriously, but you're making it quite difficult. Do you really think I would confuse Astronomy with Astrology? :rolleyes

I'm pointing out to you that you will need to learn and understand basic physics if you want to make any headway into Astrophysics. If you are just interested in observational astronomy, then all you really need is a telescope and a healthy imagination.

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore Is God (Post 634571)
I got a weird bump on my knee, it's kind of shaped like florida.
what is it?

A blood blister - next time before you knee someone where it counts, make sure they're not wearing a cup. :x

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore Is God (Post 634571)
do i need to see a doctor?

Dr. Pepper, maybe. :)

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahljorn (Post 634616)
i read an article a while ago about how they were building a space elevator using a cable made out of buckys ;\

Yes, currently this is the only material that MIGHT work. I believe this is still in the research phase, and that development is decades away. :(

DevilWearsPrada Jun 20th, 2009 06:27 AM

Semisrspost, but isn't a structure that high doomed to collapse due to varying pressure of each layer of the atmosphere, plus the added rotation of the earth and obvious factors such as cosmic debris and small meteors?

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 06:49 AM

The elevator would be in a geostationary orbit - no movement with respect to the earth's rotation. The other points you make are valid, which is why redundency needs to be designed into the construction.

The elevator at the bottom would be in effect a smallish cable in appearance, while at the top (the part in orbit) it would be roughly the size of a small building. Not only does it need to support the mass of whatever it's bringing up into orbit, but also the mass of the cable itself, which is monstrous.

Spider silk would probably work, if we could find a spider that BIG :arachnophobia

executioneer Jun 20th, 2009 08:16 AM

they just need to use those goats that have been genetically modified to produce high quantities of spider-silk protein in their milk :heebie-jeebies

Dixie Jun 20th, 2009 08:18 AM

where are these goats and where can i get one or seven?

elx Jun 20th, 2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 634621)
elx - I'm trying to take you seriously, but you're making it quite difficult. Do you really think I would confuse Astronomy with Astrology? :rolleyes

why would you assume that I thought that? I didn't tell you what I wanted to be, I told someone else and you commented on it. Even if you had asked, I didn't know you had any background in physics until you created this thread. All I said was just used to telling people that - as in, it's a habit.

Quote:

I'm pointing out to you that you will need to learn and understand basic physics if you want to make any headway into Astrophysics. If you are just interested in observational astronomy, then all you really need is a telescope and a healthy imagination.
Quote:

I'm not looking forward to having to study exclusively in a physics undergraduate program. I like it when it's being applied to the universe, when it's helping me to learn and (somewhat) understand it.
I have plans to major in a physics undergraduate program, as I said already..

Flagg- I believe that our communication skills are just not meshing well, this isn't going to work for me anymore. :(

Dixie Jun 20th, 2009 11:52 AM

elx, if my birthday is August 7th and my sun sign is leo what is my rising sign?
i get confused easy with the lunar/star sign things.
Also depending on the outcome of my signs, what signs should i avoid in my life. I already figured out virgos are bad for me, any others?

elx Jun 20th, 2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore Is God (Post 634642)
elx, if my birthday is August 7th and my sun sign is leo what is my rising sign?
i get confused easy with the lunar/star sign things.
Also depending on the outcome of my signs, what signs should i avoid in my life. I already figured out virgos are bad for me, any others?

I didn't mean it like that, I know everyone here is intelligent, it was just a habit.

I suppose I'm just not very eloquent lately, should resort back to drawings or lurking. :(

Womti Jun 20th, 2009 12:05 PM

this thread deserves a magnifying glass held over it.

Dixie Jun 20th, 2009 12:08 PM

HA!
TRICK QUESTION!
MY BIRTHDAY IS ACTUALLY THE 6TH!
BWBAAAHAHAHAH

Womti Jun 20th, 2009 12:19 PM


Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634360)
short version? i'm going to be an astrophysicist extraordinaire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634360)
I have plans to major in a physics undergraduate program, as I said already...

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634471)
[Inertial Propulsion is] not all that fascinating to me either, but that's just because i'm more interested in the universe than physics itself.

I find the above statements contradictory taken together. Sort of like "jumbo shrimp".

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634471)
i do still believe that every action has a reaction and every cause has an effect - so i'd be more than happy to debate that last bit with you. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634640)
I believe that our communication skills are just not meshing well, this isn't going to work for me anymore. :(

Which 'elx' do I believe? :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634640)
I didn't tell you what I wanted to be, I told someone else and you commented on it. Even if you had asked, I didn't know you had any background in physics until you created this thread.

Hate to break it to you, but this statement was originally in the "chat" thread, and if you said it to one, you've by default said it to all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 634640)
Someone make Flagg acknowledge me.

I did, and look what it got me. :\

:ignore

Dixie Jun 20th, 2009 12:29 PM

ohsnap
it's on

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherlock Homeless (Post 634647)
this thread deserves a magnifying glass held over it.

I guess that's my fault. If there's a way to fix it, let me know and I'll try. :confused

Womti Jun 20th, 2009 12:33 PM

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

elx Jun 20th, 2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 634652)
stuff

I already addressed everything you just said in my previous posts. :(

Esuohlim Jun 20th, 2009 01:10 PM

I CONSIDERED MAJORING IN ASTROPHYSICS BUT THEN I DIDN'T AND IN RETROSPECT I SHOULD HAVE :( (IT'S MORE INTENRETSTING THAN EINGIENREERING >: >:)

SPACE

Esuohlim Jun 20th, 2009 01:11 PM

IS THIS THREAD STILL ABOUT SCIENCE

Esuohlim Jun 20th, 2009 03:06 PM


Esuohlim Jun 20th, 2009 03:08 PM


Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esuohlim (Post 634663)
IS THIS THREAD STILL ABOUT SCIENCE

IF YOU WANT IT TO BE, MILHOUSE!

What kind of engineering? There are so many flavors from which to choose!

Tadao Jun 20th, 2009 04:53 PM

It's healthy to talk about science.

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 05:33 PM

It is scientific to talk about health.

Evil Robot Jun 20th, 2009 05:36 PM

ELX

Evil Robot Jun 20th, 2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

I am going to become an astronomer, not an astrophysicist
Oh that sounds lucrative, I'm sure you will have a fun hobby while you work in grocery stores for the rest of your life.

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 09:27 PM

Anyone contract any infectious diseases that we can talk about?

Colonel Flagg Jun 20th, 2009 09:27 PM

I've had a headache nearly all day - probably an inoperable brain tumor.

Tadao Jun 20th, 2009 09:35 PM

I'm detoxing. :(

kahljorn Jun 20th, 2009 09:50 PM

a pretentious thread about a man verbally berating a 16 year old girl? How deliciously absurd!

elx Jun 20th, 2009 10:10 PM

hardly, we weren't even arguing:(

kahljorn Jun 20th, 2009 10:11 PM

Maybe.

MattJack Jun 20th, 2009 11:26 PM

This thread is some Nerdy Harry shi*

+5 to Nerdy Harry shi*

MattJack Jun 21st, 2009 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esuohlim (Post 634671)


Dimnos Jun 21st, 2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahljorn (Post 634724)
a pretentious thread about a man verbally berating a 16 year old girl? How deliciously absurd!

I said it first :rolleyes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimnos (Post 633982)
A pretentious thread about a man verbally berating a woman? How deliciously absurd!


Dixie Jun 21st, 2009 02:00 PM

i threw up a little today
IT'S NOT A FUCKING TUMOR AND I'M NOT FUCKING PREGNANT

Zomboid Jun 21st, 2009 02:20 PM

Some of you really need to learn what a comma splice is and why it's a good idea to avoid them.

kahljorn Jun 21st, 2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

I said it first :rolleyes:
YOU WIN!!! Your prize? this post!

kahljorn Jun 21st, 2009 03:31 PM

i had the shits today because i ate at dennys last night. I hate eating out. Stupid 25 dollar shit machine. my girlfriend puked ;\

Tadao Jun 21st, 2009 04:00 PM

Col. Flagg, hows do you and your bretheren feel about Michael Creighton?

Colonel Flagg Jun 24th, 2009 10:16 PM

Do you mean the Jurassic Park guy, Michael Crichton? He died of cancer, is that what you mean? Or are you asking my opinion on whether or not it's possible to clone dinosaurs from fossilized DNA?

Sorry I'm late to this particular party, but I've been on vacation - very healthy, at least for me! :)

EDIT: Is it possible you're talking about the novel "State of Fear" where he tries to debunk global warming as "pseudo science" ? If so, then I'd have to respectfully disagree with his point of view. And I'd be more than happy to debate this point at length when I get back from the beach! Is it hot out here, or is it just me? :)

Tadao Jun 24th, 2009 10:29 PM

:lol, I mean all of him. Where he pretends to know about science and presents it in a way that the average reader blieves it as truth.

Tadao Jun 28th, 2009 05:56 PM

Both Science and Health!

Two living things can die at the exact same time, even if you divide the numbers by infinity right? The is not an impossible, just an improbable. I'm just talking about earth, throw in the universe and the odds are actually pretty good.

maybe

Colonel Flagg Jun 28th, 2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 635697)
Two living things can die at the exact same time, even if you divide the numbers by infinity right?

Throw in Billy Mays, and that becomes rather spooky. :hypno

kahljorn Jun 30th, 2009 06:38 AM

Quote:

Two living things can die at the exact same time, even if you divide the numbers by infinity right? The is not an impossible, just an improbable. I'm just talking about earth, throw in the universe and the odds are actually pretty good.
Only if you presume that time exists in the first place :O and is also concrete...

Supafly345 Jul 4th, 2009 09:30 PM

What is the quotient of death and infinity btw. Assuming that time is a constant of course.

Colonel Flagg Jul 4th, 2009 09:45 PM

Death/Infinity = Truth

Fathom Zero Jul 5th, 2009 02:31 PM

He (Crichton) has an afterward in some of his books where he states that his point was not to change the reader's point of view, but for them to question it. Like, if your convictions were swayed somehow by what was in this book, then you should probably do more research before believing something wholeheartedly. That you shouldn't just automatically believe the guy with the loudest bullhorn.

That said, State of Fear ain't my favorite. I like his more-social commentaries, like Disclosure, (my favorite book), and Airframe.

Colonel Flagg Jul 21st, 2009 03:53 AM

Sorry for bumping this old chestnut, but I thought this was pretty good.

(I would. :()



EDIT: 10K beat me to this nearly a year ago. Sorry for the repost and the bump :tear

Tadao Jul 21st, 2009 02:37 PM

Scientific and healthy for the mind.

http://www.moillusions.com/

Tadao Jul 21st, 2009 02:43 PM



The explanation of the image should go something like this: “Vestibular Correction keeps the image on your visual cortex steady even though your eyes are moving around wildly. But the vestibular correction system has its limits. What you see below is an animated GIF image which flips every five seconds. First look at the upside down image. Both faces look normal, but when they flip you will see how weird one of the faces really is. We have no trouble recognizing the person, but since we recognize facial features with a whole other part of the brain, the vestibular thing got garbled in part”.

The Leader Jul 21st, 2009 03:40 PM

Well, I've learned something today.

Tadao Jul 21st, 2009 03:43 PM


Colonel Flagg Jul 21st, 2009 08:43 PM

THAT!

WAS!

AWESOME!

:lol

10,000 Volt Ghost Jul 25th, 2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 638432)
Sorry for bumping this old chestnut, but I thought this was pretty good.

(I would. :()



EDIT: 10K beat me to this nearly a year ago. Sorry for the repost and the bump :tear

Edit: I forgot about that.



and that moonwalking bear is awesome.



Also has anyone tried spinal decompression therapy? I was considering it.

Colonel Flagg Aug 3rd, 2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10,000 Volt Ghost (Post 639012)
Also has anyone tried spinal decompression therapy? I was considering it.

No, but right now it would do me pretty damned well, I'm thinkin' ...

I ran into this on the "Nerd Network" ....

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009AIPC.1103..317S

It's a fascinating idea, if it's not just a bunch of hooey. All I've seen are a few abstracts on the subject, though Dr. Solomon has written a book (don't they all?) that claims to provide details on the theory.

Embarrassingly, all I can think of when reading the technical parts is "Paging Dr. Weir - Dr. Weir to the Gravity Drive" :eek

Aimless Aug 4th, 2009 12:19 AM

I do jack all because I have a tear in my spine that's pushing on the nerve... ahhh sciatica, makes me walk like an old lady and scream like i have turrets.

Tadao Aug 4th, 2009 04:37 AM

Wimp

Aimless Aug 4th, 2009 04:50 AM

it's troo.

Colonel Flagg Aug 4th, 2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 640088)
Wimp

BTW, how's your back doing these days?

Tadao Aug 4th, 2009 11:25 AM

Pretty good, so long as the Enbrel keeps coming in, but the fatigue is always gay. Hate being tired for no reason.

I'm in a study here in LA and I should go in for my 2 year xrays really soon. They send the xrays to me on CD. When that happens I'll post them side by side.

Colonel Flagg Aug 4th, 2009 12:46 PM

Ain't technology grand! Good luck with this (I really mean it, too!)

Tadao Aug 4th, 2009 12:48 PM

Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Have you seen the first set? And thanks for the well wishes.

The Leader Aug 4th, 2009 12:50 PM

I don't want you to be sick anymore, Tadao. :(

Colonel Flagg Aug 4th, 2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 640124)
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Have you seen the first set? And thanks for the well wishes.

Nope - where did you post it? (I probably can't see 'em from work anyway) :firewallsucks

Dimnos Aug 4th, 2009 01:01 PM

When do they give you the cyborg spine?

Tadao Aug 4th, 2009 01:05 PM

I may not have posted them here yet. They are in one of my photobuckets. I'll dig it up.

If they give me a cyborg spine I'll have to work for a living and I am enjoying my early retirement. I have one of the most secure jobs in the U.S. right now. :(

Colonel Flagg Aug 4th, 2009 01:19 PM


10,000 Volt Ghost Aug 4th, 2009 02:09 PM

I would take the cyborg spine myself but I have a long way to go before retirement. Hope the f/u goes well. :)

Tadao Aug 4th, 2009 03:15 PM

Ok, so I am adding xrays with red marking were the bone growth is, cause if you don't know what you're looking for, then you won't know what you are looking at.




Those two long lines on the hips... there is supposed to be a clear line there, but my bones connected there. So I'm kinda like the cheap action figure that you can't really pose in too many positions. At least it will be harder for my murderer to scatter my bones.

executioneer Aug 4th, 2009 03:36 PM

your bones are real jerks

Tadao Aug 4th, 2009 03:39 PM

It can always be worse. :D

Dimnos Aug 4th, 2009 04:53 PM

At least it doesnt look like this...


Colonel Flagg Aug 4th, 2009 08:40 PM

Damn, T. That looks pretty whack. :( I hope the test protocol gives you some good mojo.

@Dimnos - I know some individuals who resemble that x-ray. :lol

Tadao Aug 16th, 2009 05:55 AM


MetalMilitia Aug 16th, 2009 11:17 AM

You yanks have been pissing me off no end recently with your "Look a Nazi England's NHS!" bullshit. Trying to make out like England is some hell-hole because we all pay a small amount each month to make sure people that need care get it.

Having the audacity to suggest that Stephen Hawking would be dead if he used the NHS - which he did and does and has said he'd be dead if not for the NHS.

Fuck off America you twat. If you want to picket town halls with misspelt signs propagating right-wing propaganda that's fine but leave us out of it.

Tadao Aug 16th, 2009 11:21 AM

Lol, silly Brit, you only pay attention to loud noises.

MetalMilitia Aug 16th, 2009 12:03 PM

Hate to break it to you but the loud noises are the only ones that make it to the rest of the world. That's why we think you're a bunch of insane god-botherers. :p

Tadao Aug 16th, 2009 01:06 PM

It's really sad that the republican tactic of drama and scene making by a very small group of people is so dam effective.

executioneer Aug 16th, 2009 01:13 PM

i blame twitter for this

Colonel Flagg Aug 16th, 2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMilitia (Post 642205)
Hate to break it to you but the loud noises are the only ones that make it to the rest of the world. That's why we think you're a bunch of insane god-botherers. :p

Unfortunately, you're right. You and your brethren across the pond just have to have faith that those loud noises you hear are really just a bunch of whiny losers. You can't yell louder than they can, so those of us that understnad the issues and the problems, and have already formulated an opinion of what is needed to fix the situation can only sit around and let the blowhards have their fun.

Go ahead. You try arguing with Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh.

Tadao Aug 16th, 2009 01:56 PM



It's pretty easy to whip old racist into a frenzy.

Tadao Aug 16th, 2009 03:41 PM

Video explanation of the 10 dimensions. I'm a little confused on the 8th, are the just talking about parallel universes?

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php


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