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Kitsa Aug 16th, 2009 06:17 PM

I went to code my glucometer and happened to notice that my test strip canister has an expiration date of September...2005.

Oops.

I had some blood-glucose weirdness going on today but I hesitated to check because I didn't know if I could trust the results.

Colonel Flagg Aug 16th, 2009 10:13 PM

I think it's referring to completely different universes. Parallel universes, as I recall, are universes that result from the quantum mechanical observations made on subatomic particles. In the animation, these would be part of the 7th dimension, where all possible pathways collapse to a point. The 8th dimension, I think, could be represented by a surfeit of antimatter rather than of matter at the completion of the Big Bang; or even perhaps a different mode of "universe-initiation" not involving a Big Bang (perhaps a Gnab Gib?). In other words, a universe where the known physical constants and physical laws do not apply.

I know a good speculative fiction novel that explores this concept. The novel s fictional, but the physics applied within it is accurate, which makes it a very interesting read.

But what the hell do I know, I'm a chemist, for Christ's sake!

Colonel Flagg Aug 16th, 2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadao (Post 642227)


It's pretty easy to whip old racist into a frenzy.

Glenn Beck appeals to my inner conservative nutjob. :)

Tadao Aug 16th, 2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 642351)
I think it's referring to completely different universes. Parallel universes, as I recall, are universes that result from the quantum mechanical observations made on subatomic particles. In the animation, these would be part of the 7th dimension, where all possible pathways collapse to a point. The 8th dimension, I think, could be represented by a surfeit of antimatter rather than of matter at the completion of the Big Bang; or even perhaps a different mode of "universe-initiation" not involving a Big Bang (perhaps a Gnab Gib?). In other words, a universe where the known physical constants and physical laws do not apply.

I know a good speculative fiction novel that explores this concept. The novel s fictional, but the physics applied within it is accurate, which makes it a very interesting read.

But what the hell do I know, I'm a chemist, for Christ's sake!

SHIT'S INSANE!

Wiffles Aug 17th, 2009 06:34 PM

If there are multiple universes, the energy required to open a rift between universes must be pretty immense. I don't know if there will ever be a power source capable of such feats. Also, I love your avatar, Tadao ^^

Tadao Aug 17th, 2009 06:47 PM

Well, like the video shows, that rift is already there and we just can't see it. Just like the 2d only sees the 3d jump and not the road it traveled.

I just can't stay away from bunny avatars. Makes me seem more harmless.

Colonel Flagg Aug 17th, 2009 07:31 PM

Mr. Bun-bun be lickin' hims some Mr. Softee. :p

Colonel Flagg Aug 17th, 2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiffles (Post 642478)
If there are multiple universes, the energy required to open a rift between universes must be pretty immense.

I think part of the "string theory" is that these dimensions are curled up within nucleons, and form the basis for the strong nuclear force. It kind of rationalizes the existence of antiparticles, and the duality between antiparticles, and normal particles that move backward in time. In any event, the energy required to generate some of the short lived nucleons - omegas, kaons and the GOD particle (the Higgs Boson) - is indeed immense. Creating these particles can be thought of as moving normal matter through different dimensions ... maybe.

If in reading this you believe I've had too much to drink tonight, you may have a point. :\

EDIT: Where's Seth when you need him? :( I could use a good dose of theology right about now.

Dimnos Aug 17th, 2009 09:00 PM

Is this now the ask Mr. Wizard Flagg thread?

elx Aug 17th, 2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 642494)
"string theory"

:x

Colonel Flagg Aug 17th, 2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimnos (Post 642509)
Is this now the ask Mr. Wizard Flagg thread?

Not that I'm aware, Mr. Dimnos. :\

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 642511)
:x

Yes. Yes, I know. :(

On the bright side, this is just in from the folks at NASA - after 2 years of work. It's one of the more important discoveries they've made recently.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1...met/index.html

Tadao Aug 17th, 2009 10:15 PM

On that note, today I saw a show on how they are near completion on a planet seeking telescope. I was kinda shocked to find out that there was no actual proof of planets out side our solar system till a few years ago. Right now they can only tell if planets the size of Jupiter are near a sun. They also said that we should know in about 5 years if there are earth like planets in nearby solar systems. With all this space jizz flying around and the probability that there is an earth like planet, well IDK what then but it's pretty cool.

Colonel Flagg Aug 17th, 2009 10:29 PM

Yep. It was science fiction only about 10 years ago, and now there are about 350 confirmed planets around other stars, and about 40 known multiple planet systems. The research groups have also found some of these "plus-size" planets in habitable zones about their stars, which means that any large moons about these planets could have the potential to support life as we know it. SETI doesn't seem so far-fetched anymore.

I agree, pretty cool. :)

Dimnos Aug 17th, 2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg (Post 642519)
Not that I'm aware, Mr. Dimnos. :\

Damn. :(

I was kind of wondering about this same subject the other day. If we are so busy trying to find water on other planets and moons, why arent we trying to get a better look at comets? Are they not giant hunks of ice and dirt hurtling through space?

Zhukov Aug 17th, 2009 11:53 PM

Humanity cannot live on a comet, Dimnos.

Dimnos Aug 18th, 2009 12:10 AM

Microbials man. Microbials!

DevilWearsPrada Aug 18th, 2009 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiffles (Post 642478)
If there are multiple universes, the energy required to open a rift between universes must be pretty immense. I don't know if there will ever be a power source capable of such feats.

The only thing, in theory, that would be able to bridge two universes would be the sum of all energy in a single universe. Even if that was possible, you'd have to have the energy directed in the right way, which is, if the theory that states that there are an infinite number of universes that allow for every event that could possibly happen to happen is correct, impossible to not have happened/been happening/whatever. Then again, so is every event that could possibly happen :hypno

Anyways, you shouldn't count on it ever happening in THIS universe based on an infinite amount of reasons that could possibly drive someone insane

Colonel Flagg Aug 18th, 2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimnos (Post 642550)
Damn. :(

Not to worry, citizen. If I can provide some insight to a query, I will always try. However, on these boards there's only one individual worthy of being the "Go-To Answer Guy". And he has his own thread already.

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Originally Posted by Dimnos
I was kind of wondering about this same subject the other day. If we are so busy trying to find water on other planets and moons, why arent we trying to get a better look at comets? Are they not giant hunks of ice and dirt hurtling through space?

Yes, very little has been done in the arena of comet reconnaissance, or asteroid reconnaissance for that matter. In my opinion, this is where the immediate future of space exploration lies - looking for raw materials amongst the smaller denizens of our own solar system.

On a related note, the "Dawn" mission to the asteroid belt using ion propulsion technology will be arriving at Vesta within 2 years.

Dimnos Aug 19th, 2009 03:33 PM

I demand a comet molesting satellite / station.

Tadao Aug 20th, 2009 06:34 PM

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/

Colonel Flagg Aug 20th, 2009 10:01 PM

Does this individual work for USA Today?

Seriously, there's some fascinating stuff in there.

Tadao Aug 20th, 2009 10:12 PM

I've never been into statistics, but he keeps me browsing with interesting graphs.

Tadao Aug 25th, 2009 04:07 PM

I work with 10 pound weights (OH SO BUFF!) but I'm usually on muscle relaxers at the same time. Do you think the muscle relaxer helps diminish the muscle gain?

10,000 Volt Ghost Aug 25th, 2009 08:49 PM

I would think so.

Colonel Flagg Aug 25th, 2009 09:36 PM

Especially if the muscle relaxer is tequila.


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