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Supafly345 Oct 22nd, 2009 08:44 AM


Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 09:04 AM

:lol

My mom went out to dinner last night with an older neighbor of hers who is really, really into going out to restaurants.

She's very hard to please and has strict criteria...when she orders iced tea, they have to telepathically know to bring her a bowl of lemon wedges on the side, otherwise it's a "bad waitress". :\ They can't play the background music at more than a whisper because then people couldn't hear her talk. :| And they need to be all right with her holding the table for up to 4 hours if that's how long she wants to sit there. :shocked She goes out to lunch 5 times a week and dinner almost as often, so I'm sure all the area restaurant people know her by now.

Anyway, last night she managed to set her menu on fire on the table candle, then loudly complained that the music (a live musician at a grand piano) was too loud and needed to be turned down. When informed that the live musician wasn't going to play more quietly so she could be heard, she got mad and insisted that they be moved into a private dining area away from the piano.

I'm pretty glad I missed that one.

edit: She has an outdated "tip card" to calculate tip, and she follows it to a penny, literally. I have seen her count out dimes, nickels and pennies to leave $1.32 or whatever.

Zhukov Oct 22nd, 2009 09:23 AM

One thing I hate about dining with people from overseas is that they insist on leaving a tip. We don't tip in this country - I already paid for the meal why am I paying more?! I have to leave it for the waiter/ress? Their boss pays them! They have a wage!

Why?! Americans, stop invading us with your McDonalds and your culture of tipping! The restaurants are catching on and now they are starting to expect it. This is against what this country stands for.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 09:32 AM

It's just what Americans are used to. When my family's in America, we tip. When we're in Europe (especially if it's a small inn or something where the proprietor is also the server, where it's insulting) we generally follow the local rules. But here, servers expect a tip and have for a long time. It's built into their wage structure...I believe some actually receive less than minimum wage, and depend on tips to make a livable income.

Normally, in the States, I leave a 20% tip if the person has done a fairly good job. I've had some abysmal service and left some small tips accordingly, but I don't do it often. $1.32 would just be insulting to a waiter, and then you risk something happening to your food next time.

For the record, I hate McDonald's and haven't been to one in about 15 years. And that time it wasn't my idea.

Zhukov Oct 22nd, 2009 10:36 AM

Are you saying that you have to tip at McDonalds?

elx Oct 22nd, 2009 11:06 AM

waiters/waitresses are exempt from our minimum wage laws, most of them only get paid like $2/hour so the tips make up the majority of their salary. that's why we tip.

and i'm fairly certain that tips aren't allowed at fastfood chains.

Colonel Flagg Oct 22nd, 2009 11:10 AM

I always tip the restroom attendant at McDonalds for providing me with a freshly warmed moist towel. Very refreshing.

Zhukov Oct 22nd, 2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654467)
waiters/waitresses are exempt from our minimum wage laws, most of them only get paid like $2/hour so the tips make up the majority of their salary. that's why we tip.

This is insanity.

So if I go to the US to visit, which I will one day, will I be allowed to leave without tipping? How is it enforced? Now that I know that it is more of a communal wage rather than one based on a employee/employer structure, I would feel bad not leaving a huge tip anyway.

Anyone been to the type of restaurant that tells you to pay whatever you think the meal was worth? Apparantly they do very well from themselves because guilt is a strong emotion, and people love to feel good about themselves.

Dimnos Oct 22nd, 2009 11:28 AM

There is no enforcement. You dont HAVE to tip. You can get up and walk out with just paying your bill. As a tourist you probably wont have a problem with it. Regulars will get a nice side of spit with their next order though.

elx Oct 22nd, 2009 11:34 AM

the entire system is crap, a single cute waitress can make more in one night than all of her coworkers combined. it'd be nice if restaurants just paid waiters a normal rate and didn't allow tipping.

Dimnos Oct 22nd, 2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654472)
the entire system is crap, a single cute waitress can make more in one night than all of her coworkers combined. it'd be nice if restaurants just paid waiters a normal rate and didn't allow tipping.

True. They just need to do away with the gratuity system. If you are worried about quality of service hire some managers that actually pay attention to their wait staff.

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Boogie (Post 654315)
Guys, pub has posted in this thread 10,338 times.

And not a one worth reading. :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654472)
the entire system is crap, a single cute waitress can make more in one night than all of her coworkers combined. it'd be nice if restaurants just paid waiters a normal rate and didn't allow tipping.

Don't worry, Lass. I'll tip you. I'll tip you all night long. :(

Dr. Boogie Oct 22nd, 2009 04:27 PM

When you get up to 11,000 posts, you might just get your editing privileges back.

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 08:09 PM

Ha, do I also get a postcount reset? :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654515)


well that just doesn't make sense..what could possibly go wrong

Need more of this please. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by elx (Post 654486)
i've noticed a theme. every single girl posted in this thread has dark hair/eyes. :(
whats with that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 654534)
<3

I thought that thread was creepy before I posted in it. :(

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhukov (Post 654454)
One thing I hate about dining with people from overseas is that they insist on leaving a tip. We don't tip in this country - I already paid for the meal why am I paying more?! I have to leave it for the waiter/ress? Their boss pays them! They have a wage!

In the US, they don't have a wage. The average is just over $3 an hour and all tips have to be reported and taxed. When I worked at a local restaurant, the person training me got a paycheck for negative 22 cents due to the taxes from her tips.

In other words, shut up

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 08:23 PM

Yeah, we'll shut up about thinking waiters are hard working employees that deserve a salary that conforms to minimum wage.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 08:24 PM

he just didn't know how it works here, it'd be hard to understand if you only saw it from outside the US.

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 654541)
Yeah, we'll shut up about thinking waiters are hard working employees that deserve a salary that conforms to minimum wage.

and while we're out changing the way the world works, let's all agree to kill the fags, stop being racist, and appreciate classical music

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsa (Post 654542)
he just didn't know how it works here, it'd be hard to understand if you only saw it from outside the US.

i don't log in to the internet to be reasonable.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 08:27 PM

The last McDonald's I went to was in Verona, Italy. It was completely unlike any McDonald's I knew. A server with white gloves tonged your salad into the styrofoam container and handed it to you. I've got a picture of it somewhere...when I find it I'll edit this and add it.

Aaarg Oct 22nd, 2009 08:35 PM

What do they call a quarter pounder in Italy?

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 08:35 PM

Today I put on underwear that was 8 sizes too big for me, and it caught on my thighs.

Uh oh.

:oao

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 08:36 PM

no idea, my dad always ordered us unpleasantly large amounts of Chicken mcnuggets :(

Pub Lover Oct 22nd, 2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chojin (Post 654543)
and while we're out changing the way the world works

That isn't how THE WORLD works. Just your part of it.

It is a pretty good part overall, though. :(

Chojin Oct 22nd, 2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 654551)
That isn't how THE WORLD works. Just your part of it.

It is a pretty good part overall, though. :(

Yes it is. America is part of the world. Ants being hill enthusiasts is also part of how the world works, you fgt.

The first thing they teach you in AA is to accept the things you cannot change. Then they teach you how to smoke to cope with your other addictions.

Kitsa Oct 22nd, 2009 09:16 PM

oh, fuck it, I'll just stick it here.



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