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Pub Lover Jun 16th, 2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fathom Zero (Post 561363)
Rise above it. Or you shouldn't do art.

You're an idiot.

Fathom Zero Jun 16th, 2008 12:53 PM

You're a virgin.

Pub Lover Jun 16th, 2008 12:58 PM

"Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly."

Fathom Zero Jun 16th, 2008 01:05 PM

You know, the likelihood of finding true love decreases every day as you inch your way toward imminent, lonely death.

Rez Jun 16th, 2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub Lover (Post 561375)
You're an idiot.

i think he's right in a way. i dont think it should be stamped out completely, because being totally self confident robs the drive to get better, but 'rising above it' could just mean having the moxie to do it and put it out there and believing in it.

Fathom Zero Jun 16th, 2008 05:40 PM

Fuckin' A. I meant that you should give it around to other people before you start hacking apart your own work. It may be good. By that same token, you might think you work sucks, therefore what's the reason anyone else would think any better of it? It's something I struggle with a lot.

Fathom Zero Jun 16th, 2008 05:53 PM

Actually, lemee condense that. There's a difference between you thinking your work sucks and you thinking other people think your work sucks.

Pub Lover Jun 16th, 2008 05:55 PM

Oh man, Agreed. :(

Rez Jun 16th, 2008 10:09 PM

i think it's a thin line that other people are much better at being paid to manage (agents) than people on the internet are. how to transmit excitement about your work but not look naive in comparison to much better work (which there always will be). how to sell your ideas to others while not coming off as an arrogant prick. knowing your flaws without being cowardly about them.... it's difficult and i havent seen many people handle it with grace aside from just keeping quiet and the explanations terse, but i like to TAAAAAAALK about it. there's a reason for everything. i like being kind of transparent about what i do because goddamn it i am onto something

but it's just not classy...

liquidstatik Jun 23rd, 2008 11:02 AM

so guys, how 'bout that art stuff? :eek

Fathom Zero Jun 23rd, 2008 05:52 PM

HOW ART IS IT?

liquidstatik Jul 5th, 2008 12:55 AM

VERY ART D:

liquidstatik Jul 5th, 2008 12:57 AM

I just found this picture I did sometime way back, it looks shitty now, but I was proud of it at the time :x

http://i25.tinypic.com/72ej28.jpg :O!

sloth Jul 5th, 2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rez (Post 561349)
what about when that someone is constantly plagued by self-doubt.
i doubt my design abilities on a consistent basis, and i think everyone close to me is tired of pulling me out of that hole (faculty included) and assuring me that i'll actually go somewhere now that i've graduated. i've raised the notion that maybe because i want to be nuanced so much it's feeling rather repetitious in the video, but i'm being told by lots of people that it's all good and i need to let go. my adviser said something i still dont quite understand: "it's more of a song than any concentrated message, i think if the message were the real emphasis it would get repetitive, but it isnt, so it's ok"

or something like that. all i know is the next one just has to be better.

I thought I could cut it as a journo, but after three months at a fashion magazine I'd had enough criticism to confirm my own self-doubt. I knew there were worse writers in the business, and I envied their ignorance. Truth is, FZ is right. You do have to rise above it, or else face being drawn into a self-confidence freefall.

Shrubfest Jul 6th, 2008 12:55 PM

Hey, a question: How do i manage to draw a A3 fashion pic? I'm a really small drawer, I can't stand making big pics, but now I have to do four for uni. Hints on making bigger pics?

MLE Jul 9th, 2008 04:01 PM

The best way to let go of the small-picture inhibitions is to get a huge sheet of paper and intentionally draw something at least twice life-size. Try it a few times, and try to look for other things to make the space interesting.

Shrubfest Jul 10th, 2008 11:26 AM

Okpoke.
I'll attempt it!

Wild crayoning at the ready.

MLE Jul 17th, 2008 03:11 AM

Using crayons on their sides or messy charcoal and working in a large room where you can step back 10-15 feet from it really helps!

Rez Jul 25th, 2008 03:39 PM

finally doing my portfolio.
it's going to be a book. a decent sized hardcover
and it's going to cost out the ass to make it.
if anyone knows a place that will print custom made books like lulu.com but will do it in large formats (10x13, 12x12, etc) let me know.
using shutterfly right now and it's going to kill my bank account.

Fathom Zero Jul 25th, 2008 11:26 PM

I know Staples prints and binds books, but I don't know if they're hardcover or not or how much they cost.

Rez Jul 30th, 2008 07:02 PM

well, i'm going through with it i'm going to eat it but i've seen examples and i cant think of anything more perfect.
made the cover using the most minimal execution that i liked of what the whole thing is largely about.


Fathom Zero Jul 30th, 2008 07:42 PM

Das ist gut.

MLE Jul 31st, 2008 01:36 AM

I <3 that plane.

Pram Maven Sep 10th, 2008 04:31 AM

Anyone into clay animation? (mainly Claymation, Will Vinton's trademarked version of it)

I moved to Portland from Seattle to try to get work and so far got a test, but I'd sweep floors for them just to get a foot in the door.

My favorite stuff is Meet The Raisins and the Adventures of Mark Twain. Those films were on a level all their own. It's a shame clay kind of fell by the wayside in favor of cheaper materials.

Tadao Jan 20th, 2009 03:23 PM

There sure are a lot of stickies :rolleyes

What are you art fags up to?


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