FINAL FANTASY X-2 WAS THE LAST GOOD FINAL FANTASY GAME.

X-2 never happened. There was never a sequel to FFX starring a Jpop group featuring Yuna, Rikku, and She-Squall. There was also never a revival of the job system retrofitted into skimpy outfits. Tidus never comes back to life. It was all a fever dream. Shhhhhhh.

Yeah, but they at least try to make it interesting linearity. Which would you rather have in a story dungeon, a massive phallic skyscraper building full of incompetent employees, horrifying experimental abominations and evil executives, or a fucking 5-mile highway through some glowing forest? In older FFs there's puzzles to solve, actual levels that you have to consciously navigate, sidequests that aren't just "go here and kill this thing," etc. I think 13 had exactly one puzzle, and the solution was to turn around and go back the way you came.

I went out of my way to unlock Chocobos and the Titan boss-rush arena just to add some variety to how fucking empty and monotonous Pulse is, and I did both of these things by grabbing the next statue's tit then going and killing the thing it told me to for about 4 hours. Granted, Chocobos in this game are awesomely useful... because they let you move to the next thing you need to kill twice as fast.

I mean, fuck, we've gone from the second half of FF6 to "here, run down this hallway and kill things. Now there is a big open field, but all you can do is run around and kill things. We only included this part so we could say the game 'opens up after a while.'"

I was willing to forgive all of that and an abomination of a plot because 13 actually had great, challenging, strategic combat, but now that the ideal way to kill the final boss seems to be "slap on the 30% death resistance amulet and sacrifice a virgin to the RNG," I guess rewarding strategy and skill are out the window as well. What you're supposed to do with enemies that use insta-kills is have a Sentinel draw their fire away from the party leader, but Orphan can't be provoked, so a class with a niche use at best before is now completely pointless.

You mean nothing to me now.

yussssssssssssssssss

I...don't remember putting on an amulet? I just remember using buffs and debuffs.

In any case, I think Final Fantasy as a whole is a pretty poor example of role playing games, and I have no idea why people get so worked up over them. It's no use throwing hissy fits over a franchise that had maybe two or three decent entries before going full retard. Getting mad at Square for making meh RPGs that cater to their mindless fanbase is like getting mad at Call of Duty for making meh FPSs that cater to a mindless fanbase. There are better games out there and you don't have to play the popular franchise just because it's popular.

Really, once I started digging into stuff like SMT, FF games just feel like they're made for children...which they are...

Also? Why are Final Fantasy games called Role Playing Games? You don't make any decisions; you just watch the characters make the decisions themselves.

Final Fantasy was a staple of my childhood and I count 6 and especially 7 among my favorite games of all time, so I guess I just want them to be that good again. I know they won't, but what really pisses me off is that they genuinely could if idiots weren't in charge of them. FF13 is one long string of offensively wasted potential, and that's depressing.

I also really want to rag on the ending. If I understood right, the bad guy basically wants the party to go and kill Orphan, the fal'Cie that keeps Cocoon powered and floating in the sky and shit. His plan seems to be that if enough people die, the original god of the world will come back and everything will be super peachy again. The party's like "yeah no, fuck that, we're not slaughtering millions of people just so you can have your imaginary friend come back and hang out with you, eat a dick." Then they go to Pulse and try to find a way to not be l'Cie anymore so they don't have to choose between mass murder and being horrible crystal zombies. There isn't a way, of course, and I guess they decide to go back to Cocoon and kill Barthandelus because he's a cunt and if they're all going to face a fate worse than death, they might as well at least kill the guy who's responsible for it. Then they get to his secret volcano lair, and Orphan is there, and they just sort of... attack it. They do the one thing they specifically set out to not do, and nobody fucking comments on it. What the fuck?

That's even stupider than "hey, the way we're gonna kill Ultimecia is, get this, let her put her evil reality-ending plan into motion then just sort of jump out and bushwhack her while she's preoccupied."

Then I guess they get saved by the power of friendship or some bullshit? Whatever the hell happened in the ending cinematic wasn't foreshadowed or referenced beforehand, they could have just literally had a wizard come and make everything ok and it would've had the same relevance.

Man, fuck this game.

Well, the Fal'Cie are these mechanical things beyond human comprehension, so what I took away from it was that they were literal gods, and when they make you a l'Cie, you're supposed to follow through with your mission, and when you do, things will work out in the end, because God(s) work in mysterious ways.

Again, the whole story is reeeeeally just an excuse to show you neat graphics. Square's games really don't hold up well against scrutiny, so you really need to properly adjust your expectations and take their games at face value.

i returned ff13 and got reddead redemption :)
had about a thousand hours of fun with that

so i gues ff13isnteven worth getting now that its probably ten dollarseither, huh?

Smt :lol

Melding demons is perplexingly less bullshit than anything in Final Fantasy.

I picked up Final Fantasy XIII-2 last week on sale.

I'm sorry.

What about FFXIV? I remember being totally surprised when I learned a couple weeks ago that the game was already out. Is anyone playing that?

FINAL FANTASY X-2

Uh...it came out maybe a year ago, and it was the worst thing ever. Now it's kinda sorta in the process of relaunching and basically all of the old staff was fired and replaced with new staff. It looks better, but FFXIV 1.0 was so awful that a lot of good will was spoiled.

Oh man, you need to Wikipedia that shit. It was an MMO like FFXI, right, but it was completely broken. There's a reason they've only done FFXIII sequels. Square-Enix has even said that FFXIV has completely ruined the Final Fantasy brand name. It's also why they won't do a remake of FF7. They said if they did that now it'd just put the final nail in the coffin and they they wouldn't do it until they could make a modern Final Fantasy game that could live up to the brand name.

Then they put out FF13-3.

Yay....

FFXVI was free for a time because the game was so bad that the developers didn't want to charge a subscription until it was fixed. Then a year went by and it still wasn't fixed. I'm pretty sure the beta of 2.0 has been out for awhile, but it's been a real painful process.

what was so bad about it

FF14? Everything, as far as I can recall. It was riddled with bugs, potentially gamebreaking, the systems were not designed well, it was slow as fuck, uninspired, rushed...and...yeah, about the worst MMO-Release in the last ten years or something like that, according to the press and the reviewers.

An FF7 remake would suck. I guess people want the graphics redone like Advent Children. Is that a good thing? Do you really want a modern Squarenix style makeover? And do you think they'll leave it at that? Of course they'll find other things to "fix".

Final Fantasy 13 is a bad game, but I thought the relationships between the main characters were interesting. I never finished the game because the difficulty curve shot to the fucking moon but I did watch the ending on Youtube; awful. I've noticed in a lot of Japanese media they'll drop whatever interesting characterization they were working on up to that point for an overly serious big boss to test our heroes for boring faux tension. It's as if someone is offstage yelling "wrap it up, wrap it up."

NOW THE FINAL BNOS BATTLE MEtATRON

i lost interest in ff 13 when that dude started riding a motorcycle. that was literally the point that i decided to return it

ffvii isa good game cuz the story isnt too gay, the levelup system isnt too bad and it has awesome sidequests and summons and shit.aslong asthey could upgrade the graphics and make the gameplay a little better i dont see how they could go wrong. maybe they could even throw in a revive aeris thingi
lol j/k people dont know how to not fuck up videogames anymore. itd prolly just end up being a game about reviving aeris

I only played the "beta" (which was released 2 weeks before the game launched. It wasn't changed when it officially started) and the interface was the most abysmal piece of UI ever created, it lacked common features that MMOs have had for years (auction house, in particular), the setting was incredibly bland even for an MMO, and nearly every single action you could possibly take had some weird kind of condition to it.

Well the main problem is that FF7 still had a lot of weird humor and pantomiming left over from the SNES era. You'd need to change the whole tone of a lot of scenes.

Emo McJackass walks around a Not-Blade-Runner futuristic city and give everyone an attitude, then falls in love with a flower girl who's the last of some ancient race, then the flower girl dies and Baby PoutsAlot goes catatonic because he realized everything he ever told everyone was actually copypasted from someone else's biography. Then he kills some guy in a battle of impossible swords and goes home to hang out with a talking tiger and a robot cat.

But seriously, FF7 is just FF6 except the graphics aged like milk and the gameplay is way slower. Even the "magic abused through technology" thing was done better in FF6. After playing FF6 and Chrono Trigger on the SNES, FF7 just felt regressive as fuck.

Well if you ever saw the tech demo they made when the PS3 came out they kept everything looking t6he same as FF7's concept art, character wise and kept the same city layouts.

FF7, myself included, only want a remake in terms of the same game, just with modern graphics.

he wasn't even emomcjackass until he started being schizophrenic. before that he was pretendmcbadass one level higher than everyone else but had a cool materia. do u even watch good movies?
that's like an amazing storyline. you're introduced to a character as some badassand probably even believe it for a while unless you're a little kid who was told the story before you even played it and read gay memes and reviews on the internet or something, then halfway through he turns into some schizophrenic who stole his life from somebody else.
thats fuckin deep.

also why do you say non bladerunner esque. what does that even mean? there was no robots? the worldwasnt decimatedenough by technology?
dude was a dude who thought he was another dude because of science. thats bladerunneresque as hell.

Steam is basically handing out free Wallet money, so I bought a bunch of gaaaaaaames:

COD 4
The Bard's Tale (it includes the previous games, as well)
Sine Mora
and
Soon to be the Dead Rising 2 complete pack.

I never got to play Off the Record as it always looked cool, but not cool enough to pay for.

For friends, I bought:

Dungeons of Dredmor Complete
Critter Crunch
Country English Tune
Mirror's Edge
Psychonauts
and
Arkham City GOTY Edition

All while starting from $0.00. Please jackhammer this smile off of my face - it's starting to hurt.

Here's what I'm currently playing...

Midway Arcade Origins
Toejam and Earl
Toejam and Earl in Panic on Funkotron.

I also received Assassin's Creed III and plan to play that a bit later.

For my friend Jason I also bought him the two Arkham games for his X-Box.

Ff7, the overly gay retardadon.

FZ what is the wallet witchery you speak of? Just everything being super cheap? Or are they actually giving away money?

I sell items that I get during various winter things on the Market Beta, which gibs me da money. I now have Dead Rising 2 and OTR, btw.

I've also been playing Xenogears lately.

You know what is a shitty game that makes both FF6 and 7 look like goddamn Shakespeare in comparison, no matter your opinions regarding them?

Xenogears!

It's like the old king of awful JRPG cliche trainwreck plots, before Tales of Shitphonia got shat onto the gamecube and set the lowest possible standard for fucking horrible games.

am i being trolled

I haven't beaten Hitman yet, but I'm most of the way through it, I think.

What does it mean if I think the gun store is my favorite level?

that the game is shit

unless theres a second gun store level that i never got to cuz i hated that game

The gun store ruled. There's a lot of shitty levels in this game, like the first Chinatown and the motherfucking caves and weapons plant, but the gun store is amazing. One of the only Hitman things in the goddamn game, followed by the hit on Sanchez.

is the gunstore level the one where you just get your guns?

Yeah, but it's more if you want it to be. And there's more than one way to get your guns.

so basically, what you're telling me, is that hitman, the game about killing people by performing hits on people as a hitman, is the most hitman-like when you are retrieving some guns from a store and there is absolutely no requirement to perform a hit on somebody.

:/

By that definition, which assumes you've never played a game in the Hitman series before, then no. You, in fact, are not required to hit any mans in that mission.

I got Neverwinter Nights Complete Pack which has NWN 1 and 2 plus all of the expansions (3 for each game) for Christmas.
So, I've started to play that and should be done in a year or two. :lol

ioh man i love neverwinter nights. except my copy of nwn 2 isnt legit

maybe we could do some multiplayer shit.
that standalone expansion where you get to make your own party and stuff was really fun. probably my favorite one but that might be because i played through the main campaigns a million times and neverfinished them

ok, well, enjoy retrieving your guns in different ways then.

whenever i think of hitman levels now i just think of how many different ways there are to make a shit sandwich. SO many choices

Portal.
The first one.
Everything was going fine until I started getting shot at.

at least the turrets are polite about it

Did you also not bother going downstairs when you had to get a new suit?

Finally took the time to finish playing through Infamous 2 last week. Dunno if they're doing a third one, but I hope so, cuz I've really enjoyed the series so far.

They did that standalone game that was supposed to be good.

didnt play that far, dont care.

Sorry - someone was complaining about the suit level and you all sound the same to me.

um ok

yeah it's 10 bucks and is vampire themed, pretty good. infamous festival of blood

Decided to play Mark of the Ninja on steam. It's like a stealth game, except fun.

DONE WITH HITMAN. AFTER 39 HOURS. FUCK.

I'd call it promising if I forgot Blood Money existed. Now I'm just happy another team is doing it. Honestly, I didn't have much faith in this thing after Kane and Lynch 2.

what you didn't liked 2 grown men running naked around china?

I'd have played Sleeping Dogs if I wanted that.

Been playing Far Cry 3. It's incredibly fun, and they fixed a lot of what was wrong with FC2. Even so, it's a little weird that oppressed island tribe has been waiting for some white kid from Santa Monica to come and be better than them at everything.

I especially like that you can go completely off the rails after a single mission ans just start raiding outposts and doing whatever. Sure, playing the story missions unlocks a couple extra tattoo abilities, but you don't feel obligated to play them just so you'll have enough unlocked to make the free roaming stuff more viable, if that makes any sense.

There's also a little bit of something I really enjoy in a game that you don't see that often: the ability to go off somewhere that's more or less too advanced for you early on and steal a bunch of weapons that would otherwise take more time to buy/unlock. I got an SMG and a sniper rifle early on, and all I had to do was stab some red guy in the heart!

Also, I nearly jumped out of my skin the first time I ran through a river and discovered the game has crocodiles. And then I never saw a second one. :\

hopefully they add more crocodiles

umok

didn't you just spend a few pages of this thread defending the game

Yes.

what a faggot

OKAY

Playing Far Cry 2. Because I'm too poor for the third game.

I got as many trophies as I could in the two Toejam and Earl games, I'm early in playing through Assassin's Creed III.

you love trophies.

Yakuza 3. Comments? Go.

i like the yakuza series but the 3rd has a few missions removed and some side stuff aswell from it's japanese counter part

I liked it, and it didn't really bother me that the utterly inscrutable game of mahjong was omitted. I don't know why they cut it out, but it didn't keep me from enjoying the game.

Also, no one in that entire series has figured out that if knock someone down who has a gun, they still have that gun.

I just finished getting all the collectibles in that crap game a few days ago. I haven't had the energy to finish it yet, though. I better find it soon, I'm dying to play Far Cry 3

Just finished beating OoT 3D. I forgot how fun OoT was to 100%.

just play farcry 3 man

such a fun game

I wanna beat 2 first so I can see just how much they improved with 3.

You dont have to suffer the rest of 2 to see it.

You know how you said Far Cry 2 was a crap game? Far Cry 3 is a much better game.

Just go play it.

Far Cry 3 is basically all the best stuff from FC1 and FC2 without the annoying shit. Best FPS in years, i'd say. Loving the map editor as well.

quit letting your autism or ocd or w/e keep you from having fun

anybody play the new cod on ps3? stevetothepast is my uid if anyone wants to play.

what is the new one? MW or BOps?

black op2

they're all the same i know.

I wish world at war still had an active community/not hacked solid.

I'm glad I'm hearing such good things about Far Cry 3. I decided to preorder it at the last second after reading an article on it in Game Informer, looks like it was a good idea.

Gonna finish up FC2 tonight and go at it.

Also I hated FC1, just completely hated it. I wasted like three days and only got halfway through the game. I ended up just turning god mode on and plowing through it.

Finally beat Far Cry 2. Wasn't worth it.

everybody tried to warn you but i guess you need something to make your life meaningful

I feel like a better person for having climbed past that mountain of shit.

Seriously, when I got sick of it like halfway through, I just put aside all the sidemissions and diamond hunting and shit, and just powered through the awful story missions.

You don't get that problem in FC3.

That's what I did. After I collected all the diamonds and realized it gave me absolutely NOTHING I just hunkered down and beat the last 10 missions or so. Such a waste.

Seriously, when I got sick of it like halfway through, I just put it aside all the sidemissions and diamond hunting and shit, and just powered through the awful story missions.

You don't get that problem in FC3.

Dark Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls, all I play is friggin Dark Souls, I don´t know why, it such a good game.

Cave Story, it's fucking fantastic.

Woah, is it 2007?

I wish, then TF2 would still be 6 gigabytes and not full of stupid bullshit.

Yea, my first run through Cave Story was blind and I got the regular ending with the machine gun. Unless you have a guide I really don't see how people would be able to find Hell on their own.


I decided to play Fire Emblem 6, because its prequel, FE7, is one of my favorite games of all time and I want to get hyped for Awakening when it comes out. Some people think Fire Emblem is a strategy role playing game. It's actually secretly a game about building an army of beautiful people and playing cupid in the middle of a battlefield. And in certain entries of the series, it becomes a eugenics simulator. Shhhhh.

But seriously, Fire Emblem Awakening looks like it's going to be fantastic, and I'm actually pretty psyched for the DLC.

Batman: Arkham City in glorious 3D. That plus surround is really quite an experience. But it's still mostly button smashing in fights, but hey - pretty graphics, and BATMAN for Pete's sake!

half life 2-entertaining but felt short

I beat Far Cry 3 yesterday or something like that. It was alright.

I was surprised to find my copy of Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch came with a nice tin case. :)

I've only played a couple of hours so far, but I can say it's a very pretty RPG and the story is interesting (though very reminiscent of Spirited Away).
Oh, and Joe Hisaishi created the music so it's awesome too.

Does it come in a tin case like that from the store or is that a preorder bonus?

I preordered it and didn't get a tin case. >:

It's a preorder bonus. I wasn't even told I would be getting it.

That sucks. :( It's looks like most stores only got a handful of the Steelbook cases.
Oh well, it is just a case. I've been screwed out of a soundtrack and a key-chain before with the stupid preorders. :lol

Well Amazon didn't even say that it had a preorder bonus of any sort. Strange.

Hay.

You guys ever play this game?



It's a game that's like Zelda but not. And by "like Zelda" I mean "it's Link to the Past with serial numbers filed off and Chrono Trigger-looking sprites," but that's ok because it's also way cooler than Link to the Past. It's got super-good music (the "increased max life" fanfare still isn't as good as Cave Story's) and the story is pretty simple but really well done and actually one of the more morbid plots I've seen in a game, like, it's got a narrative obsession with death to Planescape Torment levels.

For a game with a top-down perspective it's got a serious metric assload of platforming (at least it's not isometric, eesh) which is admittedly terrible, but other than that it's fucking great and it's a measly 6 bucks on PSN. Buy it!

It was the developer Matrix Software's very first game, and basically their only good one before they started churning out fucking sadistically difficult DS remakes of Final Fantasy games. People tell me you could describe it as a spiritual successor to Landstalker: The Treasures of King Nole, but since I only know Landstalker as "that game that was in the sexual video game moments thing" I couldn't tell you if they're right. Play Alundra anyway.

Looks gay. Sorry.

ya i like alundra, except sometimes its almost too puzzle-oriented.

but its not as you say "cooler than link to the past"

Pfft, LttP doesn't even have astral projection into people's nightmares or an evil demon whose text-boxes go WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB when he talks.

That looks nothing like Landstalker.

Landstalker was my favorite game for my Sega Genesis. I wish Treasure had made that remake for the PSP. :(