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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Oh, and Islam never had a Rennaisance (my degree is in history and I still can't spell it).
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they preserved and re-interpreted Hellenistic culture as well as expanded on science, astronomy, math, algebra, law, history, agriculture, architecture, and music. granted, it wasn't on the same level as the Europeans, but to say that they never had their own renaissance is inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Because of the Rennaissance in Europe, secularism grew, as did nationalism. The states competed amongst each other and were forced to make innovations. When they turned these innovations on the Arab world (the South Pacific muslims were a little more open to change), it wasn't even a contest.
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I don't buy into this. if it were true, how would you explain the Timurids, Tunis, Cyrenaica, the Mamlukes, Adeni, Omani, or the Koyunlan Caliphates?