[Helm]

see this is where you're wrong. safety and productivity are not abstract concepts that do not apply to reality. They are concepts man derived from studying the natural world, not concepts he's trying to force on the world. Instinct no matter how one chooses to interpret the reasons, seems to be working in a very base and unsophisticated way. Protection of self, protection of species. In that way, the determinist model seems to constantly try to refine and discard, refine and discard. There is a constant direction towards a more sophisticated but streamlined model based on survival and adaptation. Why? Beats me. Still why I could be in a position to undo my instinct seems to me like a good place to start as far as choice and free will goes.

Obviously the connotations of a term like safety are vast in the way human society operates, but I am not discussing this. I am using the term in a more direct way.



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