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Old Sep 17th, 2003, 06:46 PM       
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Where do you think the traditon of European universities not charging tuition came from? It was from the universities not charging anyone to begin with way bag in the Middle Ages. Anyone who made the trip and did the work could learn. Of course, the aristocracy were usualy the only ones that could make such a trip, but don't just pull something out of your ass and scream," It's the Church! Its all their fault."
Guess what, dude. Universities did begin as seminaries, because in western Europe after the fall of Rome, the church was just about the only body wealthy and powerful enough to establish them. No rich noble would have just said "Hey, I'll start a university!"

But no, it wasn't the church's fault that only the aristocrats got educated. While I have little doubt it would have tried if necessary, the church didn't need to bother keeping people dumb; feudalism did the job admirably, by keeping a large percentage of the population poor and bound to servitude.

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Meh. I've heard that and seen a few examples. If the Church officials didn't know what it meant, how would anyone else besides Davinci and a select few? Its like hackers putting a bunch of 733T all over a board. It only makes them look like assholes.
Please. This is off-topic, but will you people quit misnaming all of those 14-year old wannabe losers as hackers? The real hackers pick on them even more than you do for typing like that.
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