[ranxer]

um, well zukhov, i didn't mean to imply that there is a 'pure' socialism.
my view of socialism isnt going to be the same as your view of socialism etc.
i meant that if we take one idea of government to it's extreem we won't have a sane system no matter what the idea is. the only hope i have for peace is compromise.. there is no 'perfect' system, any system set up has to have room to grow or evolve.

i took oao's arguements to lean toward witch burning of anything that could be construed as socialist leaning. americans jump on this too often and it's spooky.. in many circles if someone says there's some good points to communism(or socialism) the audience starts to go insane with bloodlust screaming 'he's a communist! evil! banish the evil one!' throwing all reasoning out the window.

i found it just nuts that when i was out protesting the start of military action against iraq at least 6% of the passers by and pro-war group called us communists! it was funny at the time but sometimes it's a nightmare :/